Dalian servers with no seatswitching/soloing rule

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  • Rugerdog
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 468

    #31
    Edit: ok enough I think my point is made

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    • Sloi sauce

      #32
      Originally posted by Rugerdog
      It's pretty much impossible for a soloer to take out large amounts of infantry, so even with a soloer owning the skies, the enemy could still be out capping most of the flags on foot. And don't argue about your 1337 rocket skillz, you cannot even attempt to argue that taking out infantry with the tv/rockets is as efficient as using the chain gun, especially since lining up your rockets leaves you open for an AT missile.
      If we take out all armored threats, that leaves our team's armor and infantry against their infantry... and you want us to do that for you as well? Here, hold my hand, I'll take you to the f*cking flag and capture it for you as well.

      Jesus Christ, guys. :laugh:

      Originally posted by Blud
      If not, play on servers that allow solo or get over it as well as yourself.
      Any one who purposely ignores the rules just to pi$$ off the servers is a bigger wipe than the people running the server as well as less mature than many of the ten year old server admins out there.

      No solo rules rock!
      It's a matter of principles: I don't follow arbitrary rules set forth by an administrator looking to legally pad his own stats by forcing others into his preferred style of play.

      Would you follow a server rule stating something along the lines of "you may not use the grenade launcher attachment on your assault kit" ? Don't be a f*cking hypocrite: you'd either nag the admin into kicking you or do the same thing I do, which is ignore the stupid rule and proceed as if it didn't exist.

      Soloing only sucks if you can't do it.

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      • waaah_wah
        TEAM BLADE!
        • Jun 2007
        • 3656

        #33
        Sloi, if you dont agree with the server rules, simply dont play there. Nobody is ****ing forcing you to go on that server

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        • Blud

          #34
          Originally posted by Sloi
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          It's a matter of principles: I don't follow arbitrary rules set forth by an administrator looking to legally pad his own stats by forcing others into his preferred style of play.
          Wrong, Wrong, Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Servers can set their own rules within limits set by EA. Just because solo is not allowed does not in anyway suggest stat padding by the admin. How do you reach that conclusion? I suggest that solo pilots are using an exploit to padd their stats. Soloing is an exploit that was over looked by EA. Those that do it are using an exploit (and most likely keybinds and macros as well) that Dice could have fixed easily by not allowing the chop to take off unless 2 people present and once in the air, seat swapping is disabled.

          "Would you follow a server rule stating something along the lines of "you may not use the grenade launcher attachment on your assault kit" ? Don't be a f*cking hypocrite: you'd either nag the admin into kicking you or do the same thing I do, which is ignore the stupid rule and proceed as if it didn't exist."

          What a completey stupid thing to suggest!!!!!!!!!! That just wouldn't happen, it isn't an exploit, it would be against EA server rules, and using a launcher doesn't ruin the game for others. Nothing hypocritical about it!!! And Yes, if it happened I would just move on to another server, because doing it your way would make me a hypocrite. Your two options to solve the problem show your immaturity and that you are only there to cause trouble until you get you way or kicked (and hopefully a permanent ban as well).


          BTW what about the info on your server??? Got one?? Going to pay for one?? Use your 'principles' to set one up.

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          • #1 LoGoS.^CyN.TV*
            Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 468

            #35
            Soloing isn't an exploit either. They wouldn't have put buttons in to switch positions in vehicles if that wasn't supposed to be possible. Shut the hell up.

            Everybody that whines about soloers are people that aren't any good at all in the chopper. Anybody who is any good doesn't mind soloing. It's just a way to give noobs a slight chance of getting a kill.

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            • Chris_Redfield
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 5986

              #36
              I suggest that solo pilots are using an exploit to padd their stats. Soloing is an exploit that was over looked by EA. Those that do it are using an exploit (and most likely keybinds and macros as well)
              Wait, let me mute my bullsh!t detector, as its waking up the entire neighbourhood.

              And Waaah, "switching the server" may not be an option if youve got 3 to choose between, and its the last one youre not banned from. Unless of course, you fancy playing IO Karkand, while knowing that you love a certain vehicular aspect.

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              • predragjanjic
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 2837

                #37
                Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                Wait, let me mute my bullsh!t detector, as its waking up the entire neighbourhood.
                :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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                • waaah_wah
                  TEAM BLADE!
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 3656

                  #38
                  Well, then get a copilot

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                  • Sloi sauce

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Blud
                    What a completey stupid thing to suggest!!!!!!!!!! That just wouldn't happen, it isn't an exploit, it would be against EA server rules, and using a launcher doesn't ruin the game for others. Nothing hypocritical about it!!! And Yes, if it happened I would just move on to another server, because doing it your way would make me a hypocrite. Your two options to solve the problem show your immaturity and that you are only there to cause trouble until you get you way or kicked (and hopefully a permanent ban as well).
                    My contention is that preventing people from soloing IS against EA server rules. We could go into the reasons why I and many others believe this to be true, but frankly, I think it would fly over your head. If you'll excuse the pun...

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                    • imported_kiwi
                      Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 555

                      #40
                      Seatswitching exloit? rofl :p Then changing positions in bomber, tank, apc and jeep is exploit too? :laugh:

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                      • Blud

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Sloi
                        My contention is that preventing people from soloing IS against EA server rules. We could go into the reasons why I and many others believe this to be true, but frankly, I think it would fly over your head. If you'll excuse the pun...
                        And mine is just the opposite.

                        And BTW where is that server that you admin and pay for. You keep ignoring the question.

                        Originally posted by kiwi
                        Seatswitching exloit? rofl :p Then changing positions in bomber, tank, apc and jeep is exploit too? :laugh:
                        Planes and Chops--yep. Dice was just too lazy to program it properly and too stupid to realise the exploit they created.

                        Originally posted by waaah_wah
                        Sloi, if you dont agree with the server rules, simply dont play there. Nobody is ****ing forcing you to go on that server

                        Basically that is exactly what I am saying, but he likes to stay and hassle the admin because he doesn't like the rule. He should just leave and purchase a BF2 server so he can make the rules.

                        Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                        Wait, let me mute my bullsh!t detector, as its waking up the entire neighbourhood.

                        And Waaah, "switching the server" may not be an option if youve got 3 to choose between, and its the last one youre not banned from. Unless of course, you fancy playing IO Karkand, while knowing that you love a certain vehicular aspect.

                        Damn, if you can't find a server to play because of your bans you would have had to pee off a lot a people. Hell that senario could never never. That is what I would say is complete bull$h!t. Only 3 servers left to play beside I/O because of ban--now my BS alarm is going off.

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                        • signa
                          CS-Nation / TGN Staff
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 4191

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Rugerdog
                          It's pretty much impossible for a soloer to take out large amounts of infantry, so even with a soloer owning the skies, the enemy could still be out capping most of the flags on foot. And don't argue about your 1337 rocket skillz, you cannot even attempt to argue that taking out infantry with the tv/rockets is as efficient as using the chain gun, especially since lining up your rockets leaves you open for an AT missile.
                          It's not so much impossible as much it is a matter of ammo. Even with expert accuracy a solo'er is going to need to resupply from time to time and that leaves him vulnerable to being capped out by infantry.
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                          • Sloi sauce

                            #43
                            Originally posted by kiwi
                            Seatswitching exloit? rofl :p Then changing positions in bomber, tank, apc and jeep is exploit too? :laugh:
                            Well, of course! Didn't you know?

                            Simpleton logic at its finest. :laugh:

                            Dice has had several patch opportunities to remove it and haven't done so. Furthermore, they've made it so pilotless helis drop after ~4 seconds: exactly the time needed to switch, fire to maximum distance, and switch back.

                            I don't think it's a coincidence, but rather a nice, subtle way of saying "you have our blessing to pwn these whining fagg0t nubs".

                            If they were really concerned with removing soloing, don't you think they would've made pilotless helis drop instantly? Think about it and stop f*cking crying about soloers.

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                            • CQ-Reborn

                              #44
                              I don't mean to offend any chopper reliant but situations like this are really what separate the men from the mice. An infantry player thats good can do good on the ground, and hop into the helicopter when the situation arises and do alright as long as they keep the field in a 3D perspective. Put 99.9% of the heliwhores on the ground and they fight as good as someone from Halo.

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                              • [Expletive Deleted]
                                The Penetrator
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2855

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Sloi
                                Well, of course! Didn't you know?

                                Simpleton logic at its finest. :laugh:

                                Dice has had several patch opportunities to remove it and haven't done so. Furthermore, they've made it so pilotless helis drop after ~4 seconds: exactly the time needed to switch, fire to maximum distance, and switch back.

                                I don't think it's a coincidence, but rather a nice, subtle way of saying "you have our blessing to pwn these whining fagg0t nubs".

                                If they were really concerned with removing soloing, don't you think they would've made pilotless helis drop instantly? Think about it and stop f*cking crying about soloers.

                                Yeah, they even put out another whole GAME after people whined about seatswitching. In BF2142 you can STILL solo the gunship. Obviously they don't care. If they thought it was an exploit they would have patched it out. Even if they hadn't patched it out you think they would have made it impossible in their next game. Since they have not, the point is moot.
                                We had a discussion a while back about how it broke the AA lock on vehicles with no driver. They DID fix that in one of the patches. They removed the exploit that existed and left soloing otherwise alone. There really is no logical argument against soloists anymore.
                                Now, BEFORE they fixed the AA bug, I was one of the more vocal opponents of soloing. Now that it's fixed the issue is over. DICE/EA either don't care or have blessed off soloing. In all vehicles.
                                As my dad told me when I wrestled in high school: "Either get better or quit, b!tching won't get you anywhere."

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