Grenade Launcher Kids from BF2 have infested COD4 - gbye, cya in next decent game.

[Battl3fr0nt]

Yeah, it's sickening..

I play both free for all and search & destroy... both play-modes are EXTREMLY infested with grenade launcher spammers.

9 of 10 deaths goes to grenade launchers.

You cannot rush - (all maps you get super hand grenade spam in beginning, where both teams are throwing nades toward the locations you'd have to rush through)

You cannot move forward by aiming ur rifle properly - (the second you see an enemy he'll launch a rifle grenade just near the ground and ur instant killed.... he doesn't even have to aim... and it doesn't matter ur being really cautious and standing next to a wall, only peeking out... if he sees you he just shoots the ground right next to you and ur clever wall and ur dead)

This leaves players with 2 options.. join the n00b launcher spam crew OR avoid being instant gibbed by camping around a corner hoping you can shoot one of the nade launcher kids in the back.

This imo is what has gotten me tired of the game.. the gameplay... I need more than what is offered.

In BF2 you had things that could easily counter the launcher n00bs.

In CoD4 you don't have any option that can counter grenade launcher spam, other than camping (or hide really well and move very slow, i.e crawl along shadowy walls...... camping in other words)

PS.
What is almost as bad as the launchers in CoD4.. is how you can STAND UP with a LMG, shooting it on fully automatic and still get a very good result.
In BF2 your fire would be all over the place if you tried firing a LMG in full auto while standing and even strafing lol - but for some reason in CoD4 the realism seems to have slipped quite a lot on LMGs, as you see people standing/strafing and what not while they're shooting their LMG getting perfect hits.

I agree it is very sad to see I mean I have video of me playing and I shoot them but there nade still hits me.. all they do it run around with it and when they run out they die and start over.. I would love to play a game without all the bs for once but as long as it is in the game noobs wil use it.. they dont think about that kinda stuff..

[d0min8or]

Yeah, it's sickening..

I play both free for all and search & destroy... both play-modes are EXTREMLY infested with grenade launcher spammers.

9 of 10 deaths goes to grenade launchers.

You cannot rush - (all maps you get super hand grenade spam in beginning, where both teams are throwing nades toward the locations you'd have to rush through)

You cannot move forward by aiming ur rifle properly - (the second you see an enemy he'll launch a rifle grenade just near the ground and ur instant killed.... he doesn't even have to aim... and it doesn't matter ur being really cautious and standing next to a wall, only peeking out... if he sees you he just shoots the ground right next to you and ur clever wall and ur dead)

This leaves players with 2 options.. join the n00b launcher spam crew OR avoid being instant gibbed by camping around a corner hoping you can shoot one of the nade launcher kids in the back.

This imo is what has gotten me tired of the game.. the gameplay... I need more than what is offered.

In BF2 you had things that could easily counter the launcher n00bs.

In CoD4 you don't have any option that can counter grenade launcher spam, other than camping (or hide really well and move very slow, i.e crawl along shadowy walls...... camping in other words)

PS.
What is almost as bad as the launchers in CoD4.. is how you can STAND UP with a LMG, shooting it on fully automatic and still get a very good result.
In BF2 your fire would be all over the place if you tried firing a LMG in full auto while standing and even strafing lol - but for some reason in CoD4 the realism seems to have slipped quite a lot on LMGs, as you see people standing/strafing and what not while they're shooting their LMG getting perfect hits.

Well, I am not quite sure what you want us to do about your little problem. The way I see it, you have 4 immediate options that will resolve your issues:

1. Stop playing Free-for-All
2. Stop Playing Search and Destroy
3. Join a different server
4. Stop playing COD4

Of course, if these options do not help you could try getting better at the game. If getting better is not an option, perhaps you could trya less stressful game. Last time I checked, you physically had to purchase the game, install it and play it. I find that if you stop double clicking on the COD4 Multi player icon on your desktop, your issues will completely vanish. Good luck and I hope these help.

[-Shifty-]

Somebody always beats me to the perfect post.^^

I don't see a problem, and I don't get naded very often, and of course you're gona get naded if you play the #1 no0b tub3 infested game mode, Deathmatch (AKA free for all).


Play other game modes. Also, don't play small maps with lots of players.

[Sike]

i neversaw this ONCE in teh 360 version, i hope im that fortunate when it comes to the pc version. imho i think the should remove the M203/Gp-30 all together

[wenZECA]

i neversaw this ONCE in teh 360 version, i hope im that fortunate when it comes to the pc version. imho i think the should remove the M203/Gp-30 all together

it would be a little harder getting the trajectory right with thumbsticks but once you have it mastered go pwn the helpless n00bs wit ur l33t fragtub and tell em to get more skilz

[=98=]

It also says that if they dont explode they still do damage if it hits. Why is it insta-frag instead of just damage???

Right, let me fire a grenade round into you at almost point blank range and we will see how far you get before collapsing....

[Ashlite]

what annoys me is when people do it point blank in your face when you meet them at a corner.

[-Shifty-]

what annoys me is when people do it point blank in your face when you meet them at a corner.

That bothers me, but otherwise I respect somebody who nailed me from 75m.

(Yet before they can switch to Gl their head is usually filled with my 5.56 ammo)

[Sheepdog]

Its ****ing stupid talking about "realism" that people SHOULD die from a point blank grenade launcher shot... thats the most stupid thing i ever heard.

if you wanna talk realism, please ****ing explain me what kind of soldiers are realisticly crawling around close encounter corners and buildings with GRENADE LAUNCHER locked and loaded, rather than a rifle ......

********

I can't believe you can get BLOWN to bits from just 5-6 meters distance LOL
thats fkin unrealistic.. if anything the guy shooting from this close should be blowing himself up aswell.

And the to top it all off, they make the grenade instant kill you when it hits you IF ur so close that it won't detonate.

Newbies have a win/win situation... they can't aim.. np cus it'll explode even from 5 meters distance and do an easy area kill....
They run into people without care and sometimes end up standing right up close.. np just squeeze the trigger and the non-exploding grenade hit will still instant kill the guy.

fix it

[Fusion]

I thought the granade only explodes when at a distance, not at point blank?

[-Shifty-]

Its ****ing stupid talking about "realism" that people SHOULD die from a point blank grenade launcher shot... thats the most stupid thing i ever heard.

if you wanna talk realism, please ****ing explain me what kind of soldiers are realisticly crawling around close encounter corners and buildings with GRENADE LAUNCHER locked and loaded, rather than a rifle ......

********

I can't believe you can get BLOWN to bits from just 5-6 meters distance LOL
thats fkin unrealistic.. if anything the guy shooting from this close should be blowing himself up aswell.

And the to top it all off, they make the grenade instant kill you when it hits you IF ur so close that it won't detonate.

Newbies have a win/win situation... they can't aim.. np cus it'll explode even from 5 meters distance and do an easy area kill....
They run into people without care and sometimes end up standing right up close.. np just squeeze the trigger and the non-exploding grenade hit will still instant kill the guy.

fix it

The real M203 only arms after 20m. Because anybody within 15m is dead.

And I understand you sheepdog, and you do have a point.

But on that last comment, if I shoot an M203 at you from point blank (or 1-3m) you're gona have a 40mm hole right through your body, and you'll fall down, the second you hit the ground you'll be dead.

Bassically the M203 40mm round is a bullet until it passes 20m of flight.

[=MNKY=Frosty]

The GL is annoying.

One way to fix it, make a time limit to how long you can have it out, say 5 seconds, that means it will be used in its proper way, not the stupid one where people just walk around with it waiting to use it the "wrong" way.

(The proper way is to use it when necessary, Ie someone behind cover, not point blank.)

[Sheepdog]

The real M203 only arms after 20m. Because anybody within 15m is dead.

And I understand you sheepdog, and you do have a point.

But on that last comment, if I shoot an M203 at you from point blank (or 1-3m) you're gona have a 40mm hole right through your body, and you'll fall down, the second you hit the ground you'll be dead.

Bassically the M203 40mm round is a bullet until it passes 20m of flight.

Yes I know

HOWEVER .. (and this is a big however) ..
If they're gonna add realism to one part, they better damn well add it to the followup part aswell !

They can't on 1 hand have a launcher that shoots exploding grenades at just 5-7meters distance and then on the other make it so it instant kills you if ur up close and get no detonation.

Pick one OR the other and I'd be more than happy ..

They made it the worst combination possible, and that's why it's so abused and thats why we have soldiers in a somewhat realistic game.. crawling around inside buildings unrealisticly having a GRENADE LAUNCHER loaded rather than a rifle.

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[Bisley_Bob]

Its ****ing stupid talking about "realism" that people SHOULD die from a point blank grenade launcher shot... thats the most stupid thing i ever heard.

Well, if you take a 40mm grenade to the chest or head you will be severely messed up, most likely dead, you certainly won't be able to fight. You keep asking for realism, that is the reality.

if you wanna talk realism, please ****ing explain me what kind of soldiers are realisticly crawling around close encounter corners and buildings with GRENADE LAUNCHER locked and loaded, rather than a rifle ......

The grenade launcher is on the bottom of the rifle, therefore, if your rifle is in the ready position, so is your grenade launcher. In real life you don't have to press 5 to switch to your UGL, it's there already, and if you're in combat it will be leaded. Look at This soldier he has his right hand on the rifle pistol grip, and his left hand on the UGL pistol grip. So he would infact be "locked and loaded" for both the rifle and UGL at the same time.

I can't believe you can get BLOWN to bits from just 5-6 meters distance LOL
thats fkin unrealistic.. if anything the guy shooting from this close should be blowing himself up aswell.

So actually, for realism they should be giving the grenade launcher a larger blast radius? I think there would be a lot more whining if that happened.

[Sheepdog]

Well, if you take a 40mm grenade to the chest or head you will be severely messed up, most likely dead, you certainly won't be able to fight. You keep asking for realism, that is the reality.



The grenade launcher is on the bottom of the rifle, therefore, if your rifle is in the ready position, so is your grenade launcher. In real life you don't have to press 5 to switch to your UGL, it's there already, and if you're in combat it will be leaded. Look at This soldier he has his right hand on the rifle pistol grip, and his left hand on the UGL pistol grip. So he would infact be "locked and loaded" for both the rifle and UGL at the same time.




So actually, for realism they should be giving the grenade launcher a larger blast radius? I think there would be a lot more whining if that happened.

Wrong

1) Bigger blast radius would make it so people can't use it in close encounters as they'd be blowing up themselves.

2) As it's already been said, the distance should be atleast 20meter before explosion if it was made realistic - so again, it would be a big improvement.

3) Now imagine a bigger blast radius but it requires atleast 20meter distance to explode... nice huh? everything would be good then, and grenade launcher would require some actual skill to use while also being realistic.