What does it take to make a successful server?

[Dairuka]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

I just want to know where you think your prove lies that the whole clan hacks...

I see like 2 actual dA! names on that list....there are over 35 clan members.....

OH CRAP 2 out of 35! OMG THE WHOLE CLAN HACKS

And they're still in the clan.

So much for any semblance of credibility from dA!

SO he got reset ...oh well...

Yeah, so he only cheated up to the #12 position on the ladder. So what? It's not as if he didn't ruin anybody else's fun in his pursuit of personal glory through unfair means.

Wait. He did? Oh, nice guy. He certainly is a great role model. Hes the Barry Bonds of BF2.

It does not take long, even for a marginally intelligent person, to figure out the rules.

It's hard to follow ever evolving rules that can be twisted, mangled and distorted to fit even the most myopic vision. dA!'s rule set is not list of guidelines, but rather a bundle of excuses for their admins on that server to press a ban button on someone they don't like.

The reference to the $15 is for the monthly fee. It does not cost $15 to get unbanned but if you are a member you cannot be banned. Again, this is a good example of a bitter person taking something completely out of context to try to prove an invalid point.

Thankfully I don't have to speak for myself, since there are hundreds of people who all have their own personal experiences with dA!'s poor administration.

Again, prove it. Do not site past issues. Find new ones if he is still hacking. Not to mention, there are many people that do not like illusion for one reason or another so if he was currently doing anything he would be caught.

I did not contradict anything. I acknowledged he was reset before but have laid the burden of proof on you for current events. No one said "he did something wrong in the past" everything was referred to as ongoing. Again, if you are going to throw around accusations prove it.

So you admit that he hacked before?

Thank you, you have been most helpful. I shall refer to this thread every-time Illusion denies his shady past, and most likely shady present.

You should read some of your responses before pointing any fingers. You refer to the founding members of dA! as the "Gestapo". While you may have been around during the height of the Gestapo I doubt you have any proof that our founding members are mass murderers. Understand what you are typing before posting.

Gestapo was more of a reference to the stringent police actions taken by a totalitarian government. A comparison which I, as well as many others feel is very relevant to the current subject.

On what server do you play? I would be happy to stop by and play.

Lately I've been playing on the ERR clan servers. Thats where you'll most likely find me.

BTW, I edited your post for misspellings and poor use of punctuation.

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Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

I think every one is entitled to their opinions as long as they have proof of the things that they are accusing people of ...

Get your proof and get back to us ...

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

If I were a shop-owner, and I treated my customer's badly, would I be justified in complaining that they're the ones being ignorant? No.

It does not take long, even for a marginally intelligent person, to figure out the rules.

Kind of like the typical dA! member. Luckily the guys in power treat the lackeys of dA! as poorly as you do the public newbie’s on your server, so at least you losers can say you treat 'everybody' the same way.

If I decided I wanted a vehicle I would not have to give it up to anyone. I chose to for the benefit of the team. "the guys in power" treat everyone the same and often spend a majority of their time helping new members become better players.

Yes of course, team-stacking, wall-hacking, aim-botting, spawn raping, wall-glitching, M95'ing, and admin abuse, all in the name of the team!

Ahh, here is the crux of the problem. You think we should divide up the clan so we fight each other for your benefit. We (dA!) member join the clan, in part, so we can play the game people we know and trust. We are not here to make the game more fun for you. We are here because we enjoy playing BF2 as a team.
We frequently move better players from our team to the other team. Again, if you do not believe that ask the nunya and xfi players. As far as your other allegations, if we are breaking the rules it should be relatively easy to prove. Feel free to do so. No, do not site old news.

More like you know your place, and won't dare to stand up to Illusion should he want the Helicopter you're in. :laugh:

Talk about taking a Gestapo boot up the butt for a cause that isn't your own.

I know my place is in the air and I also know that if there is an issue I can take it up with any of the founders and the issue will be resolved. Do you even know illusion or do you just randomly attack people?

Of course! Play on the other team so you can be spawn raped by the all powerful dA! clan! They'll ban you if your K/D is above 2:1, because obviously if you've managed to get that far against the all powerful dA! clan, you're hacking.

Even if you haven't said a single word, you'll be banned for 'abusing the admins.' Apparently admin abuse consists of killing them three times in a row.

You are obviously speaking from your vast experience playing on our server. That is truly funny since I have never seen you on the server. Oh wait, maybe you do not use that name.

Illusion was caught; twice in fact. He was even in the Top 10, before he was reset for his cheating ways.

So does your server stream Punkbuster and it's Master Ban List or not?

Actually, he was #12. We are a ranked server so as far as I know it does. I wish I could be more informative but I know very little about computers. I play the game because my son had it and I wanted to make sure the online play and in-game communication was not being used in an inappropriate way. It was, so I found a clan that is fun and respectful to members.

The mass majority of replies from your members have been, "You're a jerk, so we're keeping you banned. Pay us $15 and we'll unban you."

The rest of the replies from your members has been, "*Bleep* Off."

I'll refer to my previous post: a majority of the banned players that post simply forget to put in the real reason why they were banned and then attack the person who banned them. If they were to come into my home and do that to my family it would not be tolerated and the consequences would be severe. Why should it be any different on our forums?

No, not all replies are well thought out. It's a work in progress. Neither are all the messages on this forum. Fix your home before you try to fix mine.

The reference to the $15 is for the monthly fee. It does not cost $15 to get unbanned but if you are a member you cannot be banned. Again, this is a good example of a bitter person taking something completely out of context to try to prove an invalid point.

His downloadable skill certainly is awe inspiring.

Again, prove it. Do not site past issues. Find new ones if he is still hacking. Not to mention, there are many people that do not like illusion for one reason or another so if he was currently doing anything he would be caught.

You just contradicted yourself in your own thread.

You said earlier that we had the burden of proof to prove that your clan hacks, and then you go on to publicly admit that your clan leader was reset and Punkbusted.

Oh wait. He may have been punkbusted. Very nice use of Doublespeak.

I did not contradict anything. I acknowledged he was reset before but have laid the burden of proof on you for current events. No one said "he did something wrong in the past" everything was referred to as ongoing. Again, if you are going to throw around accusations prove it.

Personal attacks are against the rules of this forum.

You should read some of your responses before pointing any fingers. You refer to the founding members of dA! as the "Gestapo". While you may have been around during the height of the Gestapo I doubt you have any proof that our founding members are mass murderers. Understand what you are typing before posting.

Feel free to leave your protective cocoon at anytime.

I spend at least half my time in other servers. It reminds me of why I joined the dA! clan.
I enjoy finding the servers with pilots that have excellent k/d stats and flying against them. Nothing beats the experience of 1st to jet = 1st one tk'd, or the experience of 5 players standing around waiting for the jet/chopper/tank to spawn.

On what server do you play? I would be happy to stop by and play.

BTW, I edited your post for misspellings and poor use of punctuation.

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

lol i just read this thread

i went to those forum links and couldnt stop laughing at this guy ireeeesh or something, he slags one bloke off for not helping the team and if you look at his stats in his siggy he only has 8000 teamwork points, what a joke he and his 'clan' are.

that's because what you don't see is all the teamkills i do on a regular basis because im an *******..

And if your paying attention that close ....Please learn how to spell my name properly...

Yes of course, team-stacking, wall-hacking, aimbotting, spawn raping, wall-glitching, M95'ing, and admin abuse, all in the name of the team!

Man i wish i hacked....because if i did...I wouldnt be wondering when i would be getting my next damn rank.....


I just want to know where you think your prove lies that the whole clan hacks....

I see like 2 actual dA! names on that list....there are over 35 clan members.....

OH CRAP 2 out of 35! OMG THE WHOLE CLAN HACKS

Let me ask you this ....everytime you kick someone out of any of your servers...do you put that correct reason behind it ......I doubt it ...

SO he got reset ...oh well...

To me Illuzion is like Bill Clinton....
He is a good leader but makes human mistakes....
Except he didnt have monica lewinski put a cigar up her cooter for him

[Dairuka]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

It is truly amazing how people will ignore facts or let bad past experiences color their perspective.

If I were a shop-owner, and I treated my customer's badly, would I be justified in complaining that they're the ones being ignorant? No.

Sydus, if you are going to spout off about dA! members hacking and how you miraculously saved the day at least make sure the idiots you are talking about are dA! members. But thanks for providing the screenshots.

Wasn't it originally, dA| Illusion and then dA¦ Illuzion

Oh yes, it was. Didn't he get MBL'ed and reset for multi-hacking, and then blame it on 'selling his account on e-bay?'

Oh yes, he did.

Yes, it is true that we kick so dA! members can get the key vehicles. Most players suck and don't actually contribute to the team.

Kind of like the typical dA! member. Luckily the guys in power treat the lackies of dA! as poorly as you do the public newbies on your server, so at least you losers can say you treat 'everybody' the same way.

We (dA!) communicate via ventrilo so it’s easy to maneuver key vehicles to strategic points. And, for the most part, members enjoy using vehicles. What most of you don’t realize is that we sacrifice what we want for the good of the team.

Yes of course, team-stacking, wall-hacking, aimbotting, spawn raping, wall-glitching, M95'ing, and admin abuse, all in the name of the team!

For example, I love to gun in choppers but I suck at it so if another dA! member is on and is better than I am I will gladly fly or just step out of the way.

More like you know your place, and won't dare to stand up to Illusion should he want the Helicopter you're in. :laugh:

Talk about taking a gestapo boot up the butt for a cause that isn't your own.

We do not kick people from the other team unless it is deserved. If you want to fly a jet or chopper or get in armor go to the other team. Reasons we kick people from the other team; going solo in a chopper when the server is full/almost full, ramming, fighting while commanding, raping an uncap before getting most/all flags.

Of course! Play on the other team so you can be spawn raped by the all powerful dA! clan! They'll ban you if your K/D is above 2:1, because obviously if you've managed to get that far against the all powerful dA! clan, you're hacking.

Even if you haven't said a single word, you'll be banned for 'abusing the admins.' Apparently admin abuse consists of killing them three times in a row.

If any dA! member was hacking don’t you think he/she would have been caught? Claims that dA! members hack are actually quite funny and I would challenge any of you to prove it. It is funny how people that get repeatedly owned (sorry I don’t use “gamer” jargon) always claim someone is hacking.

Illusion was caught. Twice in fact. He was even in the Top 10, before he was reset for his cheating ways.

Feel free to flame this as well but really if you are going to throw libelous claims around at least try to prove your allegations.

So does your server stream Punkbuster and it's Master Ban List or not?

Yes, it’s true, we are sick of people coming in our forums complaining about being banned and for some reason believing the ******** they are spouting will be accepted as truth without verification. People get banned for a reason and usually leave out critical information when asking to be unbanned. In fact, the people that were abusing their ban responsibilities no longer have that power.

The mass majority of replies from your members has been, "You're a jerk, so we're keeping you banned. Pay us $15 and we'll unban you."

The rest of the replies from your members has been, "*Bleep* Off."

Say what you want about illusion but I guarantee you that if you played one round with him you would understand that he is not hacking, he is just that much better than everyone else.

His downloadable skill certainly is awe inspiring.

He may have been reset or pb’ed or whatever but he is an excellent admin, player and friend.

You just contradicted yourself in your own thread.

You said earlier that we had the burden of proof to prove that your clan hacks, and then you go on to publicly admit that your clan leader was reset and Punkbusted.

Oh wait. He may have been punkbusted. Very nice use of Doublespeak.

So yes, if you attack him you attack all of us. From what I saw he was simply trying to help get a new server up and running; which he has done repeatedly for free. Maybe a quick “thanks for the info” or “thanks for contributing” would be appropriate. Instead many of you take a chance to jump on someone for something you know nothing about.

This has been an ongoing issue for the past year, if not more - we all know about the train accident that the dA! server is. We're just doing our part to make sure that other people know too.

If we manage to save even one soul from entering your server; our job is done.

Lastly, I don’t remember which moron wrote it but someone suggested that they know more about the dA! members than even illusion does; that is just ridiculous. BTW, your mom is calling and you’re late for dinner.

Personal attacks are against the rules of this forum.

p.s. my official ea user name is Tiglath as well. Fell free to rpeort me for hacking or stat padding. Also, I play Friday nights after 10 cst, Saturday nights after 11 cst and Sunday nights after 10 cst. If you think you are that good feel free to come in and test the waters or you can use this as an opportunity to catch me doing something wrong.:laugh:

Feel free to leave your protective cocoon at anytime.

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

AKA, dA!Tiglath

It is truly amazing how people will ignore facts or let bad past experiences color their perspective. Sydus, if you are going to spout off about dA! members hacking and how you miraculously saved the day at least make sure the idiots you are talking about are dA! members. But thanks for providing the screenshots.

Yes, it is true that we kick so dA! members can get the key vehicles. Most players suck and don't actually contribute to the team. We (dA!) communicate via ventrilo so it’s easy to maneuver key vehicles to strategic points. And, for the most part, members enjoy using vehicles. What most of you don’t realize is that we sacrifice what we want for the good of the team. For example, I love to gun in choppers but I suck at it so if another dA! member is on and is better than I am I will gladly fly or just step out of the way.

We do not kick people from the other team unless it is deserved. If you want to fly a jet or chopper or get in armor go to the other team. Reasons we kick people from the other team; going solo in a chopper when the server is full/almost full, ramming, fighting while commanding, raping an uncap before getting most/all flags.

If any dA! member was hacking don’t you think he/she would have been caught? Claims that dA! members hack are actually quite funny and I would challenge any of you to prove it. It is funny how people that get repeatedly owned (sorry I don’t use “gamer” jargon) always claim someone is hacking.

If you doubt our integrity or basic friendliness talk to the xfi or nunya clans.

Feel free to flame this as well but really if you are going to throw libelous claims around at least try to prove your allegations. Yes, it’s true, we are sick of people coming in our forums complaining about being banned and for some reason believing the ******** they are spouting will be accepted as truth without verification. People get banned for a reason and usually leave out critical information when asking to be unbanned. In fact, the people that were abusing their ban responsibilities no longer have that power.

Say what you want about illusion but I guarantee you that if you played one round with him you would understand that he is not hacking, he is just that much better than everyone else. He may have been reset or pb’ed or whatever but he is an excellent admin, player and friend. So yes, if you attack him you attack all of us. From what I saw he was simply trying to help get a new server up and running; which he has done repeatedly for free. Maybe a quick “thanks for the info” or “thanks for contributing” would be appropriate. Instead many of you take a chance to jump on someone for something you know nothing about.


Lastly, I don’t remember which moron wrote it but someone suggested that they know more about the dA! members than even illusion does; that is just ridiculous. BTW, your mom is calling and you’re late for dinner.


p.s. my official ea user name is Tiglath as well. Fell free to rpeort me for hacking or stat padding. Also, I play Friday nights after 10 cst, Saturday nights after 11 cst and Sunday nights after 10 cst. If you think you are that good feel free to come in and test the waters or you can use this as an opportunity to catch me doing something wrong.:laugh:

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

the best advise i could give is get idlers. your going to need idlers and allot of them at first if you want to build your server into a powerhouse.

your also going to have to show allot of dedication and sit there in a empty room trying to fill it, your personal urge or desire too game is last on the list, filling your server is first witch requires patience and common sense. dont go crazy when theres only 8 people in the room and just own them up and down with a jet, your entire goal should be keeping people in that server and killing someone 3 or 4 times in a row usually sends them packing and your back to square one trying to get people in the server.

id say next should be one maybe two rules and nothing like limiting weapons or no bunny hoping, this just leaves room for another one of your admins to abuse the rule and people to grief and cry every time they get killed. of course the common sense rules apply, like no hacking or glitching but you dont have to list these rules, they are common sense. you also want your admins to be like ghosts, no threating people or citing rules constantly, you want ninja admins who can keep their mouth shut and deal with smacktards quietly.

you'll want to make sure you have a popular rotation combo or popular map, your server needs to provide something over the others for a player draw, all air maps or all infantry or FF off, something along those lines and most importantly something you enjoy.

it really all boils down to how dedicated you are in building the server and how much help you can get idling to build it up at first but once people see your server is fun or offers something they really enjoy youll start to see repeat players.

ohh and one small note, do not over whore your server on forums by begging people to come join, send you money or posting the ip all over, it just looks desperate. one or two of those are fine when you first start a server but dont overdo it.

+1 Great advice. I'll add something else. Pick a good host to start with. Cheaper doesn't = better. You get what you pay for blah blah blah. We were ranked in the top 40 servers with only 50 players competing against 64 player servers so I think that was a fair effort. The reason is that if you pick a dud host and need to change and obviously change IP you go back to square 1, like we did and have to start all over again because it seems most people join by favourites or IP so it will appear to them your server no longer exists. Almost 2 years with the same IP, then we changed and lost a lot of business.

Its important to have a good quality server. Go dedicated if possible. That way you aren't sharing with anyone else and you can monitor your servers performance to ensure it doesn't get overloaded. A smooth, lag free game server will keep people coming back. The added benefit is you can run more than 1 server and its cheaper in the long run.

Server setup is crucial. VOIP must be working. Battlerecorder is also good to have if its setup correctly and can mean repeat business as very few servers have it working properly.

Stream your server to Punksbusted.com that way your players know you are serious about providing an "as cheat free as possible server".

[Dairuka]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

Lol, you`re all doing exactly what he wants.

It takes a special kind of mental disorder to constantly mistake negative attention for positive attention, and to actively seek it.

He can delude himself all he wants, but that won't stop me from having my fun, poking at his obvious character flaws. :yay:

Notoriety isn't fame. Notoriety is being put on the same level as Child Molesters, and Necrophiliacs, both of which I'm sure Illusion actively practices.

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

thanks for all of the advice guys. i'm certain it will come in handy.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

And we like to do it, so whats the problem?

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

Lol, you`re all doing exactly what he wants.

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

Sig says it all

[Dairuka]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

...And you will rarely catch us outside our server.

Why migrate when you can stay warm and protected in the loving cocoon of gestapo rules.

...Because we have the best server in the world. Duh! :yay:

Never were, and never will be #1.

I love all the people that come on here and whine because we do whatever we want. You just don't realize that no matter what you say or do, It's not going to change our server or how we run it.

Activism isn't about bringing about instant change, but it's about raising awareness about a fault in the system. Eventually enough people will join in, to make us vocal enough to either get EA to intervene and your server shut down, or to teach the helpless newbies to avoid your server all together. Either way, it'd result in the death of what is widely perceived as the worst server in BF2 existence.

If you don't like us or our server, don't join it. If you're feeling immature enough to flame us on message boards, go for it. But I should let you know that it's pretty ****ing obvious that you're jealous of us. If you can't have it, you want to try to ruin it for those who can and do have it.

It's true. I'm jealous. I wish I could extort stupid people like yourself into paying me $15 a month.

Oh, and Dairuka...I touched myself over your post

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

I like to stay away from servers where the admins have some stupid personl rules like no fighting commander etc. Commanders should definitely stay away from aircrafts but to be a commander and get kicked with the "no fighting commander" comment just because you are trying to defend a flag or defend yourself, that is plain ridiculous.

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

Rifk, good thread, keep going.