Jet Flying Question And Answer

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  • ||3rb||MOBB

    #76
    Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

    Chris, like I said, I dont do it everytime but it is a very, very effective tool for the tool box. And yes, if im under 400 feet it is a bit harder to break away and get up to 800 meters in time to out run your missles, but like I said, I do this when I have altitude to work with. What you are saying is 100% correct... if your at low altitude, if you maintain a high altitude there is nothing they can really do. Points of vulnerability are obviously rearms and repair runs, but If you time those after you gun down the other jet you should be ok.

    I know what your talking about chris as far as, catching people when they try to do a split s and climb to do the strato run and run out of after burner, I catch them all the time doing this, you hit the nail on the head on what they are doing wrong, if you have the time to do a split s your too low in altitude, second thing is you dont have to hold after burner you just have to tap it and youll be fine, like I said earlier, there are finer points to this that are essential in making it successful, but if you do it correctly you have a very good defensive maneuver. I usually see guys trying to get up behind me for a lock way before they get there letting me start this before I'm in trouble. As for flying against noobs, that isnt a factor here, I've flown against my freind just trying to see what works and doesnt and he's pretty good. I fly in rubber ducky against some better pilots also, and it works. BTW chris, what you call generic is amazingly simple yet effective.

    On another note have you noticed lately some pilots altering their control file in bf2 so they can actuall turn sharper in a F-15 than you can in a J-10? I saw a guy yesterday that could get in a tight turn and be on your six within one 360 degree turn, I thought it was kind of strange so the next round I switched teams and flew as his gunner, he didnt cut his throttle and then gun it to tighten the turn it was just how he turned. So I ask him, "you moddified your control file I see" at which point he says yes. This guy wasnt good mind you because I kept getting behind him and strafing him, even on fushe pass where I killed him over and over with the F-18 and he had a J-10 but I've never seen someone turn like that in playing this game for over a year and a half. Have you seen anyone else pull this crap?

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    • CaptainBuck

      #77
      Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

      dont think ive noticed it before.

      i seen a guy instantly turn 90 degrees not to long ago tho. i was looking behind me as a jet was chasing me. he then snapped an immediate 90 degree turn to target something else. i believe i was in a bomber or flying with a wingman cuz i remember someone on VOIP asking me if i seen that. im guessing its some sort of jet aimbot.

      o and nice flying yesterday Mobb. i laughed as you shot those J-10s down. LMAOROFLZ they got shot down by an f35. i lol'd a few times. you cant sneak up on me cuz chances are im already looking behind me.

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      • ||3rb||MOBB

        #78
        Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

        wassup bucky!!! Yeah, And that was Dalian plant with a low ceiling for the F-35. I use Dalian plant as a training map for the F-35. If you can hang on that map you can hang on all the rest.

        I switched to usmc after one round because it wasnt challenging in the J-10, and usmc was getting the snot kicked out of them. I didnt want the server to empty so I evened the odds a bit. I kinda felt bad about you being in the helos, since your pilots werent doing thier job.

        As for that turning thing, I dont know what to make of it honestly, I just know I've never once seen someone turn so damn fast, when i was copilot in his bomber I was like wtf? how in the hell is he changing direction so fast? I'm reluctant to call anyone a hacker so if someone knows what this is, I'd love to know.BTW,I'lll probly be back on tommorow man if you want to squad up, take it easy.

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        • imported_TheDragon
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 1476

          #79
          Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

          Originally posted by |CBW|Simon
          Play a 3 person team. The fighter should be flying cover for the bomber as part of his job and both pilots should be in communications if possible. Same with the bomber co-pilot.
          when the enemy has a decent jet team
          if we catch OUR fighter bombing - he gets kicked !
          fighter's job is to provide air cover for bomber

          if we catch bomber chasing jets
          HE gets kicked

          ps occasional exceptions permitted
          but each vehicle does ITS role
          (called team play)

          results = team win

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          • N2K

            #80
            Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

            Get kicked for using the jet the way is suppose?

            Isn't SU's IRL multi-role jets?

            When I fly the bomber, and since Oman only has one fighter, I put the SU to use. I usually never get a good MIG pilot on my team so I have to shoot down the F35s too. So I still have time to bomb the hell out of everything that moves! lol

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            • ||3rb||MOBB

              #81
              Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

              Topgun,
              It's your server and you can run it as you wish but bombing targets of opportunity is definitly a role for fighters, also bombers should take the shot on other bombers, especially if your flying the chinese bomber vs. the F-15. At least spot him for the fighter though, but I dont think you should ever ignore another enemy jet, if the pilot is halfway decent he'll turn and burn and get a free shot on you.

              This is kind of off topic but, I dont think people should ever get kicked for gameplay issues, other than Tkin, forcing tks and not commanding when your commander. I've seen people get sniped out of cockpits because they are taking too long to take off, give them a chance to learn, the enemy will be critical enough if hes in a jet that he'll get shot down soon enough. How long do you think a guy in a bomber is going to last against me or metalica in a fighter? when you lock up a decent pilot with a bomber all your pretty much doing is saving us the trouble of having to find you 9 times out of 10. As for the the bombing fighter, he'll get ambushed going back for a rearm no doubt.

              Bottom line topgun, let karma work it's mojo, youll have an easier time admining your server too.

              I'd like to add that if you're questions could be a little more detailed, some of the questions are rather broad like "how do I get good?" that's why Myself and others like Chris and metallica are not answering them, if you want to ask how to get good at spotting the enemy before they spot you, how to increase your odds of hitting with missles, how to evade in a given jet, those I will answer. I hope that helps.

              BTW

              Big thanks to those who are helping answer some of these questions or contribute other advice.

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              • Supermario

                #82
                Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                Originally posted by CTD-CaptainBuck
                dont think ive noticed it before.

                i seen a guy instantly turn 90 degrees not to long ago tho. i was looking behind me as a jet was chasing me. he then snapped an immediate 90 degree turn to target something else. i believe i was in a bomber or flying with a wingman cuz i remember someone on VOIP asking me if i seen that. im guessing its some sort of jet aimbot.

                o and nice flying yesterday Mobb. i laughed as you shot those J-10s down. LMAOROFLZ they got shot down by an f35. i lol'd a few times. you cant sneak up on me cuz chances are im already looking behind me.
                CaptianBuck why do you think I hack is it that I am better than you? Chris made it clear that there isnt such thing as a jet aimbot. But you still think I do wow.... I guess you haven't played with better people.

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                • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                  Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3014

                  #83
                  Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                  LOL He thinks YOU are hacking.. of all people.. lmfao.



                  But mobb, no, people can't edit their control file or whatever you said. All of that is server side. A client can't just change their files and that's what they will do. The server does all that ****.


                  What they can do, like me and a ton of other people, is max out their joystick sensitivity.

                  Other than that it might have just been lag or something.

                  Or it could just be a move where he cut the corner, almost like a yo-yo or something. I have no idea.. but what I do know is that he can't just change his control file and make it effect the jets performance.

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                  • ||3rb||MOBB

                    #84
                    Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                    Yeah, I know about the control file edit, and I think it's pretty much common knowledge at this point, but I thought it really strange, I've messed with mine to see the diff from mouse and key board to joystick, and I've never seen anything quite like how he was turning. It was really wierd, He didnt look behind him, he didnt sweep for fighters or anything, he was a total noob in the air but the way he turned was unfooking real, guess we'll have to chalk it up to EA physics eh? :laugh:

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                    • chipscheesdogfro

                      #85
                      Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                      Hey wazup heres a question

                      on wake when flying the f35
                      is it possible to bomb the road through the beach THOSE F****** TREES KEEP GETTING THE WAY

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                      • Mad Ad
                        Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 211

                        #86
                        Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                        Originally posted by ||3RB||MOBB
                        Topgun,
                        I'd like to add that if you're questions could be a little more detailed, some of the questions are rather broad like "how do I get good?" that's why Myself and others like Chris and metallica are not answering them, if you want to ask how to get good at spotting the enemy before they spot you, how to increase your odds of hitting with missles, how to evade in a given jet, those I will answer.
                        my question was quite detailed.

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                        • Sars99
                          Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1708

                          #87
                          Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                          mobb you got xfire, i'd love to be able to learn some things off you if you have time. My performance on oman in the F-35 has already improved, when i was playing i was taking the enme MiG and Su on my own, get behind one, nail it, then loop and barrel roll to get onto the tail of the other.

                          just i cant seem to get the J-10s down, i get one missile hit, but then i lsoe them :S

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                          • ACE_FIN1972

                            #88
                            Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                            Here is a question for gurus:

                            I have recently found elevating spiral to be pretty good move to avoid even J-10s. Depending the distance to my opponent I'll change the radius of the spiral. While performing this move, I would say maybe 7 out of 10 I manage to escape. When I hit high altitude, I run towards the boundary of the map and then head anywhere but my airstrip or carrier (most obvious direction as u know). I guess cutting throttle is a good counter measure but if I have flares ready, I usually manage to pull out.

                            Any comments about this move, how would you react for this?

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                            • CaptainBuck

                              #89
                              Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                              Originally posted by Supermario
                              CaptianBuck why do you think I hack is it that I am better than you? Chris made it clear that there isnt such thing as a jet aimbot. But you still think I do wow.... I guess you haven't played with better people.
                              I just thought it was funny how you could randomly pick out infantry targets in many diff places. considering the group your a part of, i am definetly not going to put it past you. the leader of your "group" is an aimbotting freak. so yea.

                              and ive still never been able to explain how you shot me down out of visual range in a split secondd. i never openly said you cheat. i made light of how you spotted me, and you blew up like a 3rd grader who just got caught kissing a the pastor. which to me. seems more like a confession than anything.

                              that and your 13 years old and you think your "leet". makes me believe your spoiled and that your mommy will buy you whatever you want. you couldnt even catch me in the Su with your "leet" perspective. so from now on, i will not acknowledge anything else you. have a nice day KID.

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                              • roucious
                                Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 106

                                #90
                                Re: Jet Flying Question And Answer

                                Someone may have asked this but, it there a way to change the sensativity on a joystick??

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