Very dissapointed...Shocked...

[L3adcannon]

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Yeh, BF2 has been dumbed down like a mofo for the younger ones, feels more like Quake 3 with modern skins and models. Thats why I only play PR or POE.
I only bought BF2 for the mods and for some tking n s*it when really bored- pissing off vBF2 players is funny as f*uck.

[Raidyr]

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Yeh, BF2 has been dumbed down like a mofo for the younger ones, feels more like Quake 3 with modern skins and models. Thats why I only play PR or POE.
I only bought BF2 for the mods and for some tking n s*it when really bored- pissing off vBF2 players is funny as f*uck.

POE owns. They could have released it as a whole new game and people would have bought it. But I like the Veitnam version more

[jakeostapes]

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new stating, New coding, optimized engines, jeez all the weaponry you want.

still cnt make up for the total unplayably laughable weapons, vehicles, accuracy rate, concept, feel and general gameplay of 2142.

i mean if your being honest with yourself, surely you can see 2142 is a step backward in terms of gaming experience. its just not as enjoyable. it just feels wrong lol

Yeh, BF2 has been dumbed down like a mofo for the younger ones, feels more like Quake 3 with modern skins and models. Thats why I only play PR or POE.
I only bought BF2 for the mods and for some tking n s*it when really bored- pissing off vBF2 players is funny as f*uck.

too right with the younger ones comment.

[Raidyr]

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new stating, New coding, optimized engines, jeez all the weaponry you want.

still cnt make up for the total unplayably laughable weapons, vehicles, accuracy rate, concept, feel and general gameplay of 2142.

i mean if your being honest with yourself, surely you can see 2142 is a step backward in terms of gaming experience. its just not as enjoyable. it just feels wrong lol

Weapons: There is almost every weapon you could imagine, from the light, wimpy/silenced SMG to the brute power of the Baur and Bianchi.

Vehicles: What is wrong with them? Is it because they made it harder for armor/plane whores to slaughter everything?

Accuracy Rate: Funny, I have no problems with accuracy. Try not to snipe with the SMG

Concept: Ah, a game sucks because of the setting, ok.

Feel: See Above

Gameplay: You call less nade whoring, more balanced weapons/vehicles, and open environments a step back?

[jakeostapes]

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Weapons: There is almost every weapon you could imagine, from the light, wimpy/silenced SMG to the brute power of the Baur and Bianchi.

Vehicles: What is wrong with them? Is it because they made it harder for armor/plane whores to slaughter everything?

Accuracy Rate: Funny, I have no problems with accuracy. Try not to snipe with the SMG

Concept: Ah, a game sucks because of the setting, ok.

Feel: See Above

Gameplay: You call less nade whoring, more balanced weapons/vehicles, and open environments a step back?

raidyr____

i think for tonight we will have to agree to disagree, im awf to sleep.
happy gaming, happy new year.
you titan warrior you!

[TOAO_VTEC]

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Whether 2142 is a better game or not, I'd argue it is by a long shot. But, would it exist if not for the trial and error hatchet job that DICE did with BF2's patching process in the first place? Probably not. BF2 rules, I love the game and still enjoy doing some F35 flyby's and raping noob J-10 pilots (the good ones still get me :p). The flying and handling of aircraft is awesome in BF2, not so much in 2142. Although I don't mind the hovercrafts once you get used to them. Still, I find myself wishing I had the gunship's speed while flying the Cobra in BF2.

I could probably list all the improvements they made in 2142 but ultimately it's the removal of the extreme frustration that sometimes takes over BF2. Actually, I should clarify - The extreme frustration that takes place on public servers. Clan servers are entirely different. But, for those of us that just hop onto the lowest ping 64 player public server, 2142 is light years ahead in my opiinion. Vehicle raping is almost non-existent to a large extent. Tanks die to one anti-tank rocket to the rear, and the Engineer upgrade gun doesn't trigger their warning system. Motion mines are also deadly in 2142, and effectively seal off territory from enemy armor. Gunships have been improved and I now rarely die when piloting them. 35-2 is a typical K/D ratio in the latest patch version. They're simply unkillable except by enemy gunships and the SAAW unlock. That's it, pretty much. Only problem is that the gunship isn't as deadly as the jets and attack helo's in BF2, so there's still not an obscene amount of rapage going on with them. Walker's are definitely a powerhouse in the right hands, but with the improved active camo from the most recent patch it's now fairly routine to use the camo and sneak up for an RDX kill or just use the camo to reach the ground defense rail guns, which are everywhere.

From an infantry standpoint, you're looking at some extreme balance between the different kits in 2142. No longer do Medic's laugh in the face of Sniper's even at long range. Although I admit to loving the thrill of taking out hopeless sniper's in BF2 with my AK/M16/G3, there was still something cheesy about it. I know you're probably thinking, 'What game was he playing?' but remember that I play on public servers 95% of the time in both games. In 2142, sniper's will own you if you try going prone to battle them at range. Every weapon is balanced well, except the SAAW unlock which is bugged to all hell. But it does it's job well enough when it's working properly. Among the most welcome changes is the fact people don't automatically go prone at the first sight of an enemy. Accuracy is awful for the first 3 seconds after you go prone, so it's better to simply crouch for better accuracy since there's no time penalty for crouching.

I could go on but I wasn't intending to get into this much detail in the first place. To each their own, I don't expect anyone to change their opinion based on my or anyone else's post. But if somebody out there that thinks BF2142 is a total pile of trash based on the opinion of guy's that like BF2, well I'm here to say I love BF2 and I think 2142 is better.

Yay for me.

[Genocide Sniper]

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No offence, But your computer sucks ***. You might find yourself seeing the game in a diffrent light if you had a better computer. Your system is almost exactly the same as my "3rd" machine.

Another thing, The aircraft things in 2142 suck.

[Fakesound]

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I feel the same way about 2142 after playing BF2...so you know what i did.....i deleted 2142 off my PC and carried on playing BF2

Good job! :salute: :nod:

[Raidyr]

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Vehicle raping is almost non-existent to a large extent.
Yay for me.

Yup, which is why most people hate BF2142 so much, because the easy days of getting kills in a Cobra/J-10/T90 are gone, replaced by an actual squad system and "forced" teamwork.

[TheEn|gma]

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You know whats scary, I can see and agree with most of the things in the OP. But I still love BF2, for reasons I still can't put my finger on.

[Raidyr]

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Because BF2 is a good game?
And 2142 is a good game?

Hey! Thats a novel idea! Being able to play two games, at once!

[Chris_Redfield]

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Yup, which is why most people hate BF2142 so much, because the easy days of getting kills in a Cobra/J-10/T90 are gone, replaced by an actual squad system and "forced" teamwork.

Ha! This goes both ways. People left BF2 because they couldnt handle not being able to switch kits to take care of a tank, or not being able to learn a little how to use STA without getting killed. The same people play either Support ot Medic in BF2142 right now...

There is no "forced teamwork", people are guided as lemmings because teamwork offers candy, in shape of points.

BF2142 offers absolutely zero challenge.

My 3rd round in BF2142, when I got adjusted to the gameplay, I was able to defend a flag from 4 APCs and a tank,, until I got killed the first time. They came in pairs. Needless to say that in vehicles they never got the flag. I can sit in a STA site and kill anything that flies within a respectable radius, without getting killed.

I can do tactical mistakes all day long, and I wont be punished. And when I ram a tank with a C7 jeep, I will most probably be banned by an admin who cant handle the challenge... against a jeep... wow.

No, BF2142 isnt really the "uber teamwork experience". The ammount of teamwork in BF2142 isnt really that much different from BF2, IF you play in the right servers. And BF teamwork overall is a joke anyway, doesnt even come close to your regular pubbing in SWAT4.

The reason it "seems" better is thanks to a simple fact- you no longer die instantly when you pop around the corner at the wrong time, and a vehicle looks at you. Basically, less punishment for tactical mistakes, smaller level of challenge, overemphasized stat system.

Ask yourself this question- why did BF2142 player numbers in Xfire list drop from 1.3X BF2 players to ~0.5?

Because BF2 is a good game?
And 2142 is a good game?

Hey! Thats a novel idea! Being able to play two games, at once!

Whats the point playing 2 similar games when one of them is more interesting? Whichever one appeals to you.

[Raidyr]

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Because BF2 medic/support whores couldnt adapt to the changing battlefield?

Im done arguing this, if you are so ignorant to think that EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE GAME is busted, you obviously havent played enough to understand the game. Go back to your dolphin diving, assault sniper medics and nade-spamming karkand

[Chris_Redfield]

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Because BF2 medic/support whores couldnt adapt to the changing battlefield?

Sacrasm evades you.

Im done arguing this, if you are so ignorant to think that EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE GAME is busted

Youve proven to be an even more ignorant fool.

Yup, which is why most people hate BF2142 so much, because the easy days of getting kills in a Cobra/J-10/T90 are gone, replaced by an actual squad system and "forced" teamwork.

People couldnt care less about not being able to spawnrape medic monkeys. People were genuinely disappointed that vehicles, the kings of the battlefield that determine the outcome of the game, were pushed back because 1.5 years ago newbies started to cry that vehicles on the battlefield were too powerful.

you obviously havent played enough to understand the game.

40-50 hours is enough to give the game a chance. I was sold for to BF2 within my first minute. I was sold to SWAT4 within my first Rapid Deployment game. I was sold to porn with my first Pamela Anderson video. If you need 50 hours to love the game, youre not loving it, youre reaching to love it.

Go back to your dolphin diving, assault sniper medics and nade-spamming karkand

Thats another one of your ignorant assumptions. I dont think BF2 works fine. Ive been in favour of nerfing medic weapons to SMGs, and grenade numbers to 2 for a long time. I dont like Karkand, and I believe everything thats wrong in Karkand, can be used as a magical formula to fix the game. Karkand, and Wake. Two extreme examples that something in BF2 isnt right. I dont close my eyes and say everything is OK. But fact is, when I play BF2, and see that something is wrong, its usually something that kills me with either impunity, or with bigger power than it should, meaning that countering it is a challenge.

BF2142 however is a TOO EASY game, or too boring, or non challenging, or just plain not original.

Oh, and I dont play Karkand.

[AlphaCueUp]

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from what ive heard.....bf 2142 is just bf2 1.42