Fix for point farming -

[imported_Kold81]

Re: Fix for point farming -

This is exactly the kind of comment that gets us nowhere. It's not just about IO. The problems are manifold, and repeatedly accusing those who take the time to suggest fixes as whiners is counterproductive. This is not a complaint, or a whinge, it's a proposed solution to a set of problems.

This is not another anti IO debate, and I'd prefer you didn't try to make it one. This is an infantry balance and teamplay incentives thread. It's not a negative flaming post and I'd like to see it stay on track and not become a slangfest.

Regards it's here now (IO), enough changes, and there are no more patches. Well, BF'42 made it to 1.61b, so there's a good chance there'll be another patch. Many of the suggestions don't require changes to the programming, just tweaks of existing values, and as such would be easily implemented without stability risks.

I have to agree, while my thoughts on IO might differ from Lazzas, this thread is about fixing the point system. It does need a huge overhaul and alot of problems and arguments are started on it's behalf. If the OP's fixes were inplemented I think there would be less selfdom and more teamwork. You guys have to remember that EA introduced this points/ranking system to compete with MMORPG's and it's not gonna go away any time soon.

[Batausu]

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I don’t think your suggestions, although some are good, could really fix point farming.
Medics get their points reviving, killing and healing themselves.
Support players get theirs by killing and some more by resupplying.
Engineers … what are they doing in IO, anyway?!
All the other kits get points mostly by killing.
Every kit is able to grab more points going after flags.
Point farming is not going to be fixed unless points are removed completely. There is no other way. But I’m afraid we have to live with it…
You want to promote teamwork? Reward that somehow.
Make points count for victory only (and allow switching teams at the beginning of the round only).

[Sow_Snake]

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This things just going around in circles

[Lazza66]

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This things just going around in circles

:)
Yup. What interests me is the number of people who view a thread but don't comment. Sometimes it's 100X higher than the number of replies.

I guess if people feel strongly one way or another they'll pitch in, for or against. So the remainder must either not care, or agree I suppose?

For those who say "no more patching", I can sympathise, I'm nervous too. But it's really in need of addressing.

As one poster pointed out more games want to compete with MMORPGS and will likely include stats systems, and we the players have to live with it. Even if the changes aren't implemented in BF2, I'm sure DICE and other developers will note whats happened with BF2 and the issues like these. Unlike RPG type games BF2 is the first to attempt to score, rank and allow players to develop a FPS character to this extent. And I guess that in the future the depth of the character development will be increased. I think it's a great concept, but as we've seen if it's not done precisely it can ruin the game, or is that spoil the fun.

[scott123]

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EA has already stated that they will not be changing BF2 any further (thank God!), so this is really a moot point. I recommend you play POE....or something.

[gbmcbride]

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Interesting ideas. Not sure if really needed though (from my point of view). I've probably got less than 6 hours combined playing medic, engineer, support, out of about 120hrs played. As mostly an assault player I really dont mind having a bunch of the others around :)

Then again, I play for the fights...points dont matter to me (except for unlocks). Same for stats/awards, heck I dont even have some like Basic First Aid or Supply.

The only thing I really dont like is the jump, insta-prone, insta-kill (me!)
From the few days I played it, BF2142 seems to have (at least) drasticially reduced that, I'll be moving it full time. I really like how they re-worked the kits too.

[Kodakk]

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FIX
i know while you all might not get 2142
and I can't say anything about it.

Almost every bug people complains about, or stat padding, or whoring. Is fixed. Period. If you want a better game, support 2142.

[CensoredByGod]

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You're scraping the bottom of the barrel there. The thread title is "Fix for point farming -" is it not? 20 odd posts into the thread and I erroneously called "game tweaks" bugs. I am sorry. My motivation for the thread should have been clear from the thread title and the first post. May I suggest in future that you read the thread title and the o.p. lest you become disillusioned again.

I read the Op and it was ignorant.


You're suggesting the game was made so 5 inf could lay behind a rock bluff, lobbing grenades over the top, for 20 minutes straight, then rinse and repeat until the second coming?

Funny that doesnt happen to me, gee I must have adapted past the noob tactics.


Do you seriously think that your "points" like "fuc* off", and "stop whining", and "how gay I think it (and you) are" will in any way aid your case when this thread is viewed by anyone considering it's merit? Your posts are doing nothing but increasing the chances that changes will be made, because you don't have a single point to offer, only petty name calling and abuse. You can't see that though can you, more's the pity.

Your an ignorant whiner, seemed the best way to get across to you.


I saw a video clip taken by a UAV. It was using an infra red camera to locate an insurgent mortar team, after locating them it sent them to Allah with a hellfire missile.

Please, "point farming fix"? What you are complaining about is the points arent distributed the way "YOU" think they should be. Its a fcukin thread about "YOU" wnating to change the game. Simple enough, dont come at me trying to make excuse for why "YOU" think things should change. As I and countless others in this thread have stated....PLAY THE GAME THE WAY IT IS OR FCUK OFF. Simple you dont like it dont play it, but for the love of all things gaming stop pushing your idealised crap off on the community. Jesus another nob. Yes that means unworthy of being called a noob. Even noobs just play the freakin game at this point. Fix the game yourself, design your own!:hmm:

Now then cut and copy every line to further make yourself look like the whiney bi**h you are.

[Lazza66]

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Please, "point farming fix"? What you are complaining about is the points arent distributed the way "YOU" think they should be. Its a fcukin thread about "YOU" wnating to change the game. Simple enough, dont come at me trying to make excuse for why "YOU" think things should change. As I and countless others in this thread have stated....PLAY THE GAME THE WAY IT IS OR FCUK OFF. Simple you dont like it dont play it, but for the love of all things gaming stop pushing your idealised crap off on the community. Jesus another nob. Yes that means unworthy of being called a noob. Even noobs just play the freakin game at this point. Fix the game yourself, design your own!:hmm:

Now then cut and copy every line to further make yourself look like the whiney bi**h you are.

Lol, you go girl.

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: Fix for point farming -

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83324

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91728

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90909

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94240

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95423

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95383

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95420

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95824

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95945

[Lazza66]

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I think BF2 is as good as it can be.

Jalalanade 64 plyr (IO). USMC rounds won 2, MEC rounds won 58 (or something). MEC immediately charge both hills setting up nade spamming fronts. The support and medics keep them firmly entrenched.

After 15 minutes of nade spamming MEC win with around 60 tickets lost.
I'm sorry Scott but my standards are higher than that. I think it can be better.

[74javelin]

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maybe there should be a time limit on bags thrown on the ground like 3 seconds. i play medic but i don't spam bags all over the place. i just give them when i see someone needs one.

[Hacksaw]

Re: Fix for point farming -

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83324

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91728

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90909

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94240

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95423

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95383

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95420

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95824

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95945

:o .............

[Lazza66]

Re: Fix for point farming -

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83324

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91728

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90909

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94240

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95423

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95383

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95420

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95824

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95945

[Combat-Quokka]

Re: Fix for point farming -

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83324

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91728

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90909

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94240

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95423

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95383

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95420

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95824

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95945

Yes... I thought I'd seen some no-hopers whinging about changing the game... AGAIN... somewhere before. Thanks for reminding us.