Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

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  • Eternal-Souljah

    #16
    Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

    Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
    The only bad thing... which.. would make everyone start b*tching all over again...


    Instead of a 1-way rape fest on the carrier/airfield, now BOTH sides will just ignore eachother, and go on with their business... That is the whole reason why they went with better A2A I think, and fvcked it up big time.
    You can't stop base rape or spawn rape its inevitable. At the start of a Wake round, you get the J10 at the carrier and the F35 at the Airfield.

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    • slip777

      #17
      Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

      For christ sake...DICE would have to be the most incompetent bunch of game developers ever. This has been suggested a million times since 1.3. Now a bunch of PROFESSIONAL game developers are crying to the community that "it's too hard to tweak our own game, were just a lazy bunch of overpaid dip****s who sit on our asses all day and eat cheatos while the community does all the work". I'm never buying another DICE or EA developed game after BF2. Quake wars will dominate 2142. Who would trust DICE and buy another one of their games while after a full year they still haven't been able to fix the core BF2. Not to mention 2142 will be on the same engine, and since most of the code will probably be copied and pasted expect it to have most of the bugs and problems were seeing now.

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      • Bungalow_Bill

        #18
        Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

        It seems like pretty much every single person in agrees with this simple solution which is an extremely rare thing to happen anywhere in the Battlefield 2 community. Hopefully DICE agrees too and actually reads this.

        If you're not so sure that our thousands of collective hours of aircraft piloting make this a quality solution then simply stick the 1.12 air to air missiles in to your 1.4 patch BETA 3 and get some real feedback before you take the plunge. I'm not psyhic but I can tell you right now almost all the feedback will be positive. Positive not just from the standpoint of the aviator but from everybody. When planes become properly balanced it creates a trickle down type of balancing effect that will make maps such as Wake 2007 and Dalian Plant playable for the USMC team.

        Probably wouldn't be a bad idea for someone to get in contact with some people at DICE Canada and point them to this thread so we can be sure they've at least read this nice chunk of feedback from the Battlefield 2 community and at the very least evaluate it. But again the collective thousands of hours of aircraft experience in this thread alone makes us the better judge by far. Listen to the gamers.

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        • Chris_Redfield
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 5986

          #19
          Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

          Originally posted by PhoeniX_0
          Tho Planewhore's idea sounds nice there is now way that dice can make it happen because the A2A and G2A missiles are the same, and if they can't figure out how to balance a plane I don't think they will createn a new missile just for that.
          Negative.

          Sidewinder
          Archer
          Sa19 Grison
          Igla
          Seasparrow (Essex)
          STINGER
          Another Igla, looks to be the STA one.

          This is the total number of things I found in the list that strikes me as a missile. This means that all missiles can be configured individually.

          The problem here is, does PLA jets use Archers or something else?

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          • Bungalow_Bill

            #20
            Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

            Originally posted by PhoeniX_0
            Tho Planewhore's idea sounds nice there is now way that dice can make it happen because the A2A and G2A missiles are the same, and if they can't figure out how to balance a plane I don't think they will createn a new missile just for that.
            No. Both the surface to air missiles and air to air missiles have seperate values. All they have to do is change the air to air and they can leave the surface to air just as good as it is now.

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            • DesertFalcon
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 4011

              #21
              Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

              I agree if they are too lazy to spend 10secs to fix something i ownder what 2142 will be like.

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              • IDC-Shorly

                #22
                Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                A tutorial would change the outfall of the rounds on the maps you refer to.

                If people were rated when waiting for jets, other then they are today. Then maybe all this you say would not be necessary.

                The problems is the noobs taking the jets initial, ending their teams chance of doing a proper attempt to engage enemy jets, so their team make to reach shore. This would change the result dramatically. Enough to keep the J10 the most lethalt jet, but not invincible against a skilled JSF-pilot.

                Adjust the heatsignature of the F-35, make the flaeres work like in other jets. I'm so tired of having the VTOL-advantage, which only gives the advantage of avoing some TK's at take-off, which in the same action gives you teammates possible to toss C4 on your jet.

                One more important thing would be "auto-slay" for teamkilling on such spawns.

                I die just as many times from C4 and friendly eryx then J10.

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                • kilroy357

                  #23
                  Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                  The essex missiles hit more friendlies than enemies

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                  • -=KOF=-IVirusI

                    #24
                    Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                    yes, i agree with your idea Planwhore, now lets hope dice read this and take note.

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                    • Lt.Kris

                      #25
                      Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                      I agree to bad they will never listen.

                      I with everyone would go back to 1.2.

                      that was fun

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                      • Bungalow_Bill

                        #26
                        Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                        Originally posted by Lt.Kris
                        I agree to bad they will never listen.

                        I with everyone would go back to 1.2.

                        that was fun
                        1.12 not 1.2

                        But even 1.2 air to air missiles would be an improvement over those in 1.3.

                        I've played them all and without a doubt 1.12 is the sweet spot for A2A missiles.

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                        • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                          Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3014

                          #27
                          Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                          Originally posted by Lt.Kris
                          I agree to bad they will never listen.

                          I with everyone would go back to 1.12.

                          that was fun
                          fixed

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                          • IDC-Shorly

                            #28
                            Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                            Even though I prefer the F-35, I still want the J10 to be superiour.

                            I want the F-35 to still be the same challenge, I dont want two J10's.

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                            • i made you

                              #29
                              Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                              bump

                              Why isn't this in game feedback. It's going to get swept under the carpet by "which unlock should I choose" threads.

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                              • zipp0r

                                #30
                                Re: Easiest way for DICE to fix the J-10 imbalance

                                ive wanted this since 1.2 :|

                                and before people say, it'll be back to the old untouchable planes, it wont, S2A is still deadly. and people will go back to cannons.

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