STATS RESET is it right?

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hey man, dont want to make fun of you but i am not a lawyer. I just Code. can you explain that for me!!!!

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thats the thing. no where in the contract says anything about the ROE.

The verbage in the agreement refers the user to EA's site for further explanation of any and all referenced materials in the agreement. Specifics are not required IF the contract/agreement reference outside sources and said sources are valid and comprehensive. EA assumes that by checking yes, you have done your due dillegence and therefore are informed about all of the facets of the agreement you just authorized.

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umm who knows ? I voted i dont care

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Sorry, nobody but your mommy is obliged to spoon feed you.

The terms of agreement cover this whole debate. If you don't read them before you check "yes", then it is your fault. This is how contracts in the real world are written and executed. The onus is on the person that seeks to sign a contract or agree to terms to make sure said terms are in line with what that person is seeking to gain by signing the contract or agreeing to said terms.

So the whole argument about not knowing to visit forums or EA's website or reading the EURL or ROE is moot. You checked yes and in the end that is all that matters. If you don't like it, quit playing and delete your account.

thats the thing. no where in the contract says anything about the ROE.

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i think it is a good idea. beaucse it keeps people from the k&p server.

well most of them

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Your pole question is to difficult for me
....anyway
If you play a lot on servers like that.....your stats are at risk
BIG DEAL, start all over

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Regarding players who play just for fun and don't go to the forums, ignorance of the law does not apply here. It would be like you walking into an establishment downtown like a restaurant or bar, all looks fine from the outside, but not knowing there are illegal activities going on inside and a month later you get arrested and fined just for having been there.

I disagree. When you intsall the game, you are presented with the terms of agreement. There is your chance.

In your argument there is no advance warning that the establishment is engaging in illicit activities. Now if the establishment had a plaquard on the front of the door telling everyone that entered that they do so at their own risk due to possible illict activities being purpetrated within, then your argument would be applicable. If you didn't read the note on the door and you walked in, then by default, you agreed to do so at your own risk.

Re: STATS RESET is it right?

Regarding players who play just for fun and don't go to the forums, ignorance of the law does not apply here. It would be like you walking into an establishment downtown like a restaurant or bar, all looks fine from the outside, but not knowing there are illegal activities going on inside and a month later you get arrested and fined just for having been there.

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I tell you people what, I Understand this whole BF2ROE stuff and aggree with it as far as it's a guideline to try and add some more rules to the multiplayer communmity however.

I think that anyone who gets their stats reset because of playing on a server that is not in the eyes of some of you ok, is STUPID. I mean come on people did BF2 say anything about this so called BF2ROE on the package or in the .dat files or in the so called user manuel?

NO so why should someones stats get reset when people are not notified in advance.

Tell you what I havn't gotten my stats reset however many of us have unknowingly entered a server only to find out it was a knife or pistol server and because we waited so long to load we stayed and played a bit. Tell you what if I ever do get my stats reset because of my unwanted knife or pistol episode ........this one would make it to court because thats just plain stupid. If ea wants to stop the crazyness then get rid of the servers all together. Ban the servers, fine the server owners but do not mess with you hard working everyday player who invested good money and normally had no idea of what they were getting themselves into when joining one of those servers.

In the US you can only sue for damages, what would you be suing for, your $50 back?

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Re: STATS RESET is it right?

Sorry, nobody but your mommy is obliged to spoon feed you.

The terms of agreement cover this whole debate. If you don't read them before you check "yes", then it is your fault. This is how contracts in the real world are written and executed. The onus is on the person that seeks to sign a contract or agree to terms to make sure said terms are in line with what that person is seeking to gain by signing the contract or agreeing to said terms.

So the whole argument about not knowing to visit forums or EA's website or reading the EURL or ROE is moot. You checked yes and in the end that is all that matters. If you don't like it, quit playing and delete your account.

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I found out about the ROE in this website. and i found this website because i was looking for some info to fix my CTD.

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I agree with you. Maybe the ROE can be added to the EULA or be agreed to when the game is installed so there is no way of saying that a person didn't know. Right now this is the system in place that all of us as players or server owners have to work with.

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Frist, time warp, use your inside voice, please. I hate to break it to you, but writing in all caps or in bold just makes it look like you can't control the volume of your voice.

Second, ignorance is no excuse for the law. Period. I know we ALL just skip over the licensing agreement because we are excited to play the game, but it has the rules in there, I am sure.

Third, you have no right to your stats. Considering they run the stats server, they have the right to wipe them at their whim if they so wish. They could discontinue stats altogether if they wanted to.

So what, you don't like. You poor thing. Just deal with it.

However, if EULA does NOT reference these things, I agree with you totally, it is f-ed up. If it does, whatever.

And to all of you schmoes who are accusing the OP of wanting to go to K/P servers, READ HIS F-ING POST. It is clear his problem is not with the rules, but the way the rules are presented.

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Let me throw this out at you. I was checking out a K/P server last week where the ingame msg stated that the server was K/P and against the ROE with the possiblity of being reset and that the players were playing at their own risk. Not one player disconnected the whole time I was there and once they spotted my name all they had to say was I was messing with their fun. I reported the server and all players. This has become a dbl edged sword of sorts where players and servers don't care about running or playing in these type's of servers yet whine when they are reset. Can't have it both ways.

I aggree with that whole heartedly however I'm not at all debating the fact that there are loosers out there who know the rules and break them. My only grip is the ones who don't understand what they are subject to....if caught breaking the rules even if they were unaware.

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Let me throw this out at you. I was checking out a K/P server last week where the ingame msg stated that the server was K/P and against the ROE with the possiblity of being reset and that the players were playing at their own risk. Not one player disconnected the whole time I was there and once they spotted my name all they had to say was I was messing with their fun. I reported the server and all players. This has become a dbl edged sword of sorts where players and servers don't care about running or playing in these type's of servers yet whine when they are reset. Can't have it both ways.

The ROE is not stated in the EULA, but you do agree to abide by all rules by checking the I agree button and installing.