STATS RESET is it right?

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Some of you are saying "Play unranked", well would you play unranked if EA said no more Bombing infantry with planes? I doubt it. How about they take away med bag spamming on ranked and you could get reset for that, would you play unranked? You all with tis answer seem to be missing a crucial point. If it was your desired way of playing would you play the same or move to unranked?

I am sorry, but this is an incredibly weak analogy. There is a huge difference between EA changing the rules and people imposing rules on a server to encourage stat padding.

The ROE says you cant limit gameplay, but yet enforces limits on play.

Wah?

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Im sorry Im confused. I see a lot of people who in one statement say they "don't care about the stats" and in another say "Yeah you should get wiped for playing in K/P servers". This is quite hypocritical. You may not care about your stats, but you sure seem concerned with someone else's. I mean really, all this debate is stupid. K/P servers cater to people who may like that type of game play, lose the rank crap and would you still be complaining about it? I doubt it. Matter of fact you would probably be inclined to join for a round or 2, to test your ability with those weapons.

Some of you are saying "Play unranked", well would you play unranked if EA said no more Bombing infantry with planes? I doubt it. How about they take away med bag spamming on ranked and you could get reset for that, would you play unranked? You all with tis answer seem to be missing a crucial point. If it was your desired way of playing would you play the same or move to unranked?

This whole argument is completely absurd. The ROE says you cant limit gameplay, but yet enforces limits on play. A K/P server is just a server, so everyone is using K's and P's and its balanced as long as everyone is using the K's and P's. The only problem with it, is the assumption that people are earning poins and stats that are "unfair?".

So the next time you complain about it, maybe a second look at your motivations are in order. If you are truly uncaring about your stats and ranks, then why dont you play unranked?

And for the guy who said "I like my rank because it means 'I own you'". Rank dont mean sh**, when it comes to ownage.

[DeadCRAP_]

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ok heres my opinion its a story so.. yeah, One day little jimmy went to EB Games to get battlefield 2! he installed 1.3 patch ef and af and away he went! he went into a karkand server. he was on the lil building ext to hotel. his evil commander Commander.Meow dropped a car on it. he thought he could probaley bring it down to to street but it went inside of the building. he found himself in the hotel glitch. and he was a colonal (O_O) Then. he got an email saying ur stats have been erased. ty for giving us ur 190 bucks for the exp and the game and sf now leave. THE END

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Well put Rocketchild.

To be honest, I think the harshness that people feel when stats get wiped for playing in a Knife/Pistol only server is there by design. In order to try and give the whole concept of BF2 and "earning" points for advancement some degree of Reputableness, EA does come down hard on those that subvert the intent of the game. We all know that you can't legislate morality and that there is no honor umong thieves, but if there is a hint of propriety or fairness, then people will compete. Nobody plays any game if they know that everyone else sitting at the table is cheating.(well, Las Vegas ain't closed yet so maybe that theory is off a bit..)

Wiping someone's stats is a great use of the Public Example method of deterring bad behavior.

I am not saying I agree with the methods or motives or results. I am just saying what I am saying.

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Well, as much as I seem to voice opposition to this and that, I do agree there needs to be some leveling for all players. I hate zero tolerance policies and black/white thinking. I feel that we should have a ROE, though at times I fight it mostly because we do not have a clear picture of what the reasoning is behind some of their policies.

EA, whom does not seem to do a great job reaching out to the community, did a horrible job informing the community. I have seen a lot of advertisements when I jump into the game to see "Download Patch 1.22!!!" Well, you know, I have seen the AF ad for several weeks now, and think we should get a link to ROE every now and then. They should be switching out the ad every few days.

In my mind, killing someone's year of work because they spent an hour on a k/p is just overboard, not an eye-for-an-eye. I think there should be repercussions, along the lines of, well, you padded for Knife and pistol points, well, we are going to wipe all your Team Points, and remove all your badges/awards, whatever rank you are at now based on the loss T.Pts, is your new, demoted rank. Or, based on your actions, like you are a notorious baseraper or TKer for planes, they demote you two ranks or knock you down %50 of your Global Score.

Society has gotten soft and weak and like easy policies/laws to enforce. People like to take the path of least resistance, and just clearing a whole table in a database is easier then going into certain fields of SQL to cherry pick what to null.

The accused is not provided the evidence, time, date, place, logs, and screenshots. I have seen some of the descriptions of what people have done and I have to say, well you had it coming, but I don't like the fact they got knocked on their *** for it. Sometimes, a nice hard punch to knock the wind out of you is better then having your teeth broken out.

I am not an advocate for K/P servers by any means. I don't want to encourage it. But don't think nailing people to a cross over it is the right way either.

Very well put..........Couldn't aggree more

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When you purchased BF2 and made your account, you selected "YES" to the terms of agreement. If you had selected "no", then you would not have been able to create a legitimate account and therefore would not be eligable for stat tracking (points/ranks/unlocks/ribbons/medals).

Just because you did not have a 4ft x 8ft laminated copy of the Rules of Engagement hand delivered to your home does not mean you are not bound by them. You agreed to abide by the ROE when you selected yes to create your account.

EA/DICE is under no obligation to provide you with the ROE if you checked "yes" in the terms of agreement. By checking "yes" you told EA/DICE that you have read and understand EVERYTHING mentioned in the terms and that you AGREE to abide by said terms. The ROE were mentioned and referenced and it was up to you to find them and read them BEFORE you agreed to the terms. If you did not, then it is not EA/DICE's fault. I would strongly suggest you not sign any other agreements/documents or contracts without reading everything first. You could wind up in a giant heaping mess in real life.

Bottom line is that if you have a valid account, you agreed to play by the rules. Even if that means you have to go and find said rules on your own.

This sums it up........

[RocketChild]

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Well, as much as I seem to voice opposition to this and that, I do agree there needs to be some leveling for all players. I hate zero tolerance policies and black/white thinking. I feel that we should have a ROE, though at times I fight it mostly because we do not have a clear picture of what the reasoning is behind some of their policies.

EA, whom does not seem to do a great job reaching out to the community, did a horrible job informing the community. I have seen a lot of advertisements when I jump into the game to see "Download Patch 1.22!!!" Well, you know, I have seen the AF ad for several weeks now, and think we should get a link to ROE every now and then. They should be switching out the ad every few days.

In my mind, killing someone's year of work because they spent an hour on a k/p is just overboard, not an eye-for-an-eye. I think there should be repercussions, along the lines of, well, you padded for Knife and pistol points, well, we are going to wipe all your Team Points, and remove all your badges/awards, whatever rank you are at now based on the loss T.Pts, is your new, demoted rank. Or, based on your actions, like you are a notorious baseraper or TKer for planes, they demote you two ranks or knock you down %50 of your Global Score.

Society has gotten soft and weak and like easy policies/laws to enforce. People like to take the path of least resistance, and just clearing a whole table in a database is easier then going into certain fields of SQL to cherry pick what to null.

The accused is not provided the evidence, time, date, place, logs, and screenshots. I have seen some of the descriptions of what people have done and I have to say, well you had it coming, but I don't like the fact they got knocked on their *** for it. Sometimes, a nice hard punch to knock the wind out of you is better then having your teeth broken out.

I am not an advocate for K/P servers by any means. I don't want to encourage it. But don't think nailing people to a cross over it is the right way either.

If someone is caught cheating/stat padding, they should have their CD key banned. But the reset is alright for now.

Rev, you are my favorite mod here, but I have to disagree with ya here. I think the CD/hardware bans should be reserved for the scarlet letter people that hack servers and use aimbots, people that go way out of their way to alter legitimate gaming.

There are levels to breaking the law, and dropping a gum wrapper on the ground should not be grounds to have your bank account cleaned out by law enforcement. But if you rob a bank, you should not get the death penalty, but a fair sentence term. I think Hammurabi had it right in some cases, even if his code is handed down 4000 years ago.

[Revoluti0n]

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If someone is caught cheating/stat padding, they should have their CD key banned. But the reset is alright for now.

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Ok I aggree but disagree...It's true you do have all day so to speak to read this aggreement and research it. However you only can read the aggreement after opening the package and starting up the program for install so if you do not aggree your out 50.00 basically. Because everyone knows with computer software after it's been opened you can not take it back for a refund.So it's kind of a catch 22 isn't it, damned if you do damned if you don't

No. You simply don't get to accumulate stats. You can still play the game in single player and maybe even by setting your comp up as a local server and inviting people to come and play. The agreement is for the account, not the game. IF BF2 was only playable online, then you would have to be notified prior to purchase in order to avoid paying for something that you can not use. And to that effect, I think the game box lists the min. comp specs and internet connection requirements of the game to help people that either don't have internet or have sub par computers avoid purchasing a game that won't run as advertised due to the purchaser's limitations.

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i think it is a good idea. beaucse it keeps people from the k&p server.

well most of them

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I didn't pay 50 so I can rank up in a game. I paid 50 to have some fun with my friends. Couldnt care less about my rank. The only reason why I do give it a thought is because I can say "I own you" and my unlocks. What the hell would I do w/o them?

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Ha! I am not a lawyer either, but in the real world I do have to deal with some pretty heavy contracts and agreements.

Basically, a contract does not have to list every single point as long as the contract provides direction or references to all of the points. Since there was no time limit placed upon you to agree, EA is in the clear. You had all day to read the agreement and research every point contained within it before you said yes and installed the game.

I can not fault anyone that did not do that though. It is a video game, not a house loan. BUT, the whole point is that EA has the right to do what they want with the game and the stats. It is in the agreement and if you blindly checked yes, then you gave EA the ok. I know it sucks for some, but that is just how it is. If it truly bothers people enough, they can avoid EA or any other game company that operates in a similar fashion.

Ok I aggree but disagree...It's true you do have all day so to speak to read this aggreement and research it. However you only can read the aggreement after opening the package and starting up the program for install so if you do not aggree your out 50.00 basically. Because everyone knows with computer software after it's been opened you can not take it back for a refund.So it's kind of a catch 22 isn't it, damned if you do damned if you don't

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I have been told that it is in the EULA in which you click YES I AGREE to before you install the game....Yet no one reads this...

Let us not forget the rules system is only for RANKED servers...YOU do not have to USE a RANKED server...Thus why the offer UNRANKED servers....

You have a choice the way I see it... carry on

-edit

Also I believe all the EULA and everything else EA puts out has the "this is subject to change without notice" clause....thus making it all kosher

[DesertFalcon]

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I disagree with stat resets unless it was caused by glitching i have no promblem with knife/pistol only servers or anything of the sort. if you dont want to be bothered by stats okay unraNKED SERVERS.

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hey man, dont want to make fun of you but i am not a lawyer. I just Code. can you explain that for me!!!!

Ha! I am not a lawyer either, but in the real world I do have to deal with some pretty heavy contracts and agreements.

Basically, a contract does not have to list every single point as long as the contract provides direction or references to all of the points. Since there was no time limit placed upon you to agree, EA is in the clear. You had all day to read the agreement and research every point contained within it before you said yes and installed the game.

I can not fault anyone that did not do that though. It is a video game, not a house loan. BUT, the whole point is that EA has the right to do what they want with the game and the stats. It is in the agreement and if you blindly checked yes, then you gave EA the ok. I know it sucks for some, but that is just how it is. If it truly bothers people enough, they can avoid EA or any other game company that operates in a similar fashion.