F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

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  • XmetallicaXguitarstX
    Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 3014

    #76
    Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

    yeah.. if you are out of flares, you are ****ed.

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    • Roger Smith
      Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 1390

      #77
      Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

      Originally posted by Sir. Blades
      Make the F35 have the EXACT same type of hitbox as the J10 has.
      then aa missiles would fly right up to the engine of any jet and decide not to hit. thats not dodging, thats simply bad hitboxes/code.

      how about making the j10 have the same hitboxes as the f35 and make the turn rate of aa missiles lower.

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      • Blades

        #78
        Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

        If launched properly the missles WILL hit , even in the tightest of turns. You have to hunt it for a long time to take it out. And I also meant this change just for A2A, S2A should ALWAYS hit a plane except for properly launched flares.

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        • Vintageologist

          #79
          Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

          Originally posted by Sir. Blades
          If launched properly the missles WILL hit , even in the tightest of turns. You have to hunt it for a long time to take it out. And I also meant this change just for A2A, S2A should ALWAYS hit a plane except for properly launched flares.
          What I would fine cool is if they'd put in the pre 1.2 AAM but leave the SAM as they are. This would mean the Stingers will still be able to hit quite easily, but dogfights would be more interesting because you have to get right behind him to fire. Ah, I remember the old days... THAT was dogfighting back then.

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          • SJB

            #80
            Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

            i am always right behind a J-10 then sudddenly he turns to sharply for me and he ends up behind me !! i hope that this isn't due to my poor flying

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            • farmergiles

              #81
              Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

              Honestly jets and choppers in general need to be toned down, they are supremely overpowered as they are! Why else do you get chopper hoggers and jet whores out there? Theyknow you don't need much skill to harvest easy points from them! I got so bored racking up 100+ points per game on small maps, i refuse to go in the air other than for transport for the challenge and fun of ground combat!

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              • Chris_Redfield
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 5986

                #82
                Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                Originally posted by Farmer Giles
                Honestly jets and choppers in general need to be toned down, they are supremely overpowered as they are! Why else do you get chopper hoggers and jet whores out there? Theyknow you don't need much skill to harvest easy points from them! I got so bored racking up 100+ points per game on small maps, i refuse to go in the air other than for transport for the challenge and fun of ground combat!
                I agree, but wait, why stop here?! Everyone knows that everyone plays medic and support for easy points, lets take away their "teampoints" so they become teamplayers and revive and heal for the sake of goodness! Because that would be fair. Comeon, AT guy shouldnt get less points for doing his job! Medic is just a point harvester, so lets nerf that son of a gun!

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                • farmergiles

                  #83
                  Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                  Can do if you like, perhaps restrict the number of heals or revives you can do on the same bloke or perhaps say 3 heals = 1 point or something. I wouldn't mind. Support isnt that bad and AT should get more points I mean ive seen peope using hacks so that their tanks take 4 rockets before dying. Its even worse thou when you see Anti Tank ppl use hacks so that they kill a tank in 1-2 rockets!

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                  • Profe

                    #84
                    Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                    I suspect he's being sarcastic, either way, why don't you figure out how to shoot down j-10s. I can usually shoot them down, because I've figured out strategies to shoot them down. Seriously, just figure it out, adapt to the game, the game doesn't have to adapt to you.

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                    • Chris_Redfield
                      Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 5986

                      #85
                      Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                      Originally posted by Profe
                      I suspect he's being sarcastic, either way, why don't you figure out how to shoot down j-10s. I can usually shoot them down, because I've figured out strategies to shoot them down. Seriously, just figure it out, adapt to the game, the game doesn't have to adapt to you.
                      If its the type of jet that pilots uses that dictates the outcome of the engagement, we have a problem. If the number of jets is balanced (ie. Oman, one bomber+one fighter vs 2 fighters) then things are fine. Or, like in OCS, we have 2 fighters with almost equal ATA capabilities. However, set a J10 against F35B on 1 vs 1 and you know who will most likely won. Almost the same deal with the MiG.

                      Unless youre freaking lucky, have a set of flares and boost up to stratosphere, I WILL get you, and you will not be able to shake me (If im in the MiG or J10 and youre in F35B), nor lose me. And even if you plan to make the strato-run, and waste the flares. I will shoot off all 6 missiles through the flares and at least one will hit you very, very likely...

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                      • Profe

                        #86
                        Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                        so what, the j-10 is a better plane in game than the f-35b, what's the big deal, you can sneak in behind them all the same, and if you are smart, you can shoot them down or get away if you miss. The F-35b is my favorite plane in the game, if you know you are at a disadvantage you should know not to engage. There are also ways to shake off j-10s, but it is usually best to just avoid them if you are not in a good position to attack. It's a matter of using your brain.

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                        • farmergiles

                          #87
                          Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                          Nope the Anti AA needs to be beefed up. Jets are way overpowered, everyone tries to hog them and it takes NO skill whatsoever to drop 3-4 nukes to wipe out an entire flag area for 3-4 kills. NO skill so these pilots are getting points for doing nothing!

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                          • SJB

                            #88
                            Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                            ye tbh if u are a skilled 'aviator' then the F-35b is exactly the same as the J-10 and should be kept the same

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                            • Roger Smith
                              Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1390

                              #89
                              Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                              Originally posted by Farmer Giles
                              Its even worse thou when you see Anti Tank ppl use hacks so that they kill a tank in 1-2 rockets!
                              lol, hit the tank in the front or the back of the treds.

                              Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                              lets take away their "teampoints" so they become teamplayers and revive and heal for the sake of goodness!
                              you are on crack or sarcastic

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                              • Chris_Redfield
                                Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 5986

                                #90
                                Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

                                Originally posted by Profe
                                so what, the j-10 is a better plane in game than the f-35b, what's the big deal
                                I´ll tell you.

                                you can sneak in behind them all the same, and if you are smart, you can shoot them down or get away if you miss.[/quote]

                                Not if theres me in the J10, let me make this clear for you. I look behind every 5-10 seconds, I use free chase cam mode so it doesnt matter which angle you choose. I KNOW youll be there, and theres NO way you, in the F35B will ever stay with me because I know how to evade people using free chase cam modes.

                                The F-35b is my favorite plane in the game, if you know you are at a disadvantage you should know not to engage.
                                You know, thats bull. Thats just leading to status quo in dogfights as pre-1.2 where pilots silently agreed to not to engage each other and just bomb-race. F35B is a fighter. Fight damnit! But in order to fight, I propose a change is in order to give you a chance to actually come out as a winner if you do fight.

                                There are also ways to shake off j-10s, but it is usually best to just avoid them if you are not in a good position to attack. It's a matter of using your brain.
                                Youre describing what a bomber would do, not what a fighter should do.

                                Let me make this clear to you, in J10 vs F35B the brains do NO matter, what matters is the pilot behind both planes. If the J10 has a good one, F35B pilot IS screwed, no questions there.

                                Originally posted by Goldleader101
                                ye tbh if u are a skilled 'aviator' then the F-35b is exactly the same as the J-10 and should be kept the same
                                I agree, f*ck it, Vodnik is the same as M1A2 "Abrams" if theres a skilled driver in the Vodnik! Because, you know... Vodnik makes an excellent anti-armor weapon in the hands of a good driver, and Im not talking about Jihaad Jeeps. Im talking about raw skills in driving around the tank to screw with Abrams drivers vision, driving him insane and watching them "esshshshpooode!". Nonsense, isnt it?

                                And Roger, I thought I was pretty obvious there.

                                Originally posted by Farmer Giles
                                Nope the Anti AA needs to be beefed up. Jets are way overpowered, everyone tries to hog them and it takes NO skill whatsoever to drop 3-4 nukes to wipe out an entire flag area for 3-4 kills. NO skill so these pilots are getting points for doing nothing!
                                I CHALLENGE YOU. I challenge you to create a video of you dropping bombs on flags AND armor. If you get at least 30% success rate, I will agree that piloting takes no skills, and then I will still challenge you for a 1 vs 1 dogfight against me. Then I will stuff these words back into your mouth. How does that sound?

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