F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

[Xodus]

Re: F-35b Vs J-10... Please Fix!

It's easy to out run a j10 in an f35B if you know what your doing, get near the roof, go to full reverse throttle, go 0 throttle, tumbel 100 feet, full forward throttle w/ afterburners, pull up, shoot j10 with machine guns. Also, the F35B can easily get to 2500 no problem.

[farmergiles]

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Ooooo I'm so scared, obviously he can't oppose the fact that jets are way too overpowered and easy to use so he resorts to cheap threats!! I've had at least 50% success rate dropping bombs, all you gotta do is fly straight and time it right, simple, and viola! Dead people and armour at flag and ruined game.

[XmetallicaXguitarstX]

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Wow too many pissed off ground pounders who have a HIGHLY distorted view on jets are in here.

PLEASE.... get at least 50 hours in a jet before you start talking about how it's "too easy" to do this and that.. Maybe if you got into the other persons shoes, you would realise, to be that efficient in the air, is not easy... ESPECIALLY in the JSF.

ANYONE who says aircraft is balanced, needs to just spend 5 ****ing seconds in a JSF (F-35B).





Now don't you all get me wrong... I can fight fine in the crappy jet, but I am at such a high disadvantage, it is crazy. I have a 12+ K/D ratio with 25K+ kills, and 200+ hours in the jet, and about 190 of those hours being in the JSF. Trust me, I have alot of experience with the jet.. Sure there are alot of people with a ton more experience, but I am just telling you.. it is NOT balanced.. I'm showing you that, sure, I may have a decent score and it's still in the JSF, BUT.... I am at such a crazy disadvantage.. If I weren't I am confident I would have a 30+ K/D ratio... EASY.

I can tell you this... I don't feel like explaining it. I will let the game explain it for you.




OK... get FRAPS... if you don't have it, me or chris redfield will give it to you. Spend 2 minutes in a JSF WITHOUT DYING, and kill at least one J-10. If you can manage to bomb armor with the "crazy nukes", and rack up over 10 kills on the side of hunting down that J-10, and still staying alive in 2 minutes, OK then I will admit that aircraft is overpowered and jets are balanced... (LOL.... yeah RIGHT!).

Just by the way you speak of jets I can tell you have little to no experience in them.

[Profe]

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I've gone whole rounds in the jsf on wake, without being shot down, and shot down several j-10s in the same round. Stop crying and play smart.

@ Chris: If you know the j-10 can outmanuever you in the F-35b, don't get into a turning fight with them. It's sooo simple, know your disadvantages, and don't let the enemy use them against you.

Balanced or not, it is better that way, because it is so much more rewarding to use tactics effectively than to just be able to shoot everyone down without any real thought.

Quit trying to mold the game to your wants, a lot of people like it the way it is, and enjoy having to think a little bit.

On a side note: Saying that planes are overpowered and need to be toned down is ridiculous. It's airpower, it is supposed to be overpowered, it would be retarded if planes couldn't bomb bases or destroy vehicles. Get over it you whiny bitches.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Ooooo I'm so scared, obviously he can't oppose the fact that jets are way too overpowered and easy to use so he resorts to cheap threats!! I've had at least 50% success rate dropping bombs, all you gotta do is fly straight and time it right, simple, and viola! Dead people and armour at flag and ruined game.

Metallica has given you the details of the challenge. Step on it. I want to see you succeed. If you cant, keep your inexperienced mouth shut.

I've gone whole rounds in the jsf on wake, without being shot down, and shot down several j-10s in the same round. Stop crying and play smart.

Ive done the same thing! But what does that prove? Nothing. If the J-10 pilot is good, youre at a considerable disadvantage. Disadvantage that often gets you killed. Hunting F35B with J10 is easy. If youre good enough the skill level of opposition doesnt matter. In F35B vs J10 is ALL about oppositions skill level. Play smart? WTF are you on drugs? F35B only has one trick and its surprise attack! I personally check my rear every 5-10 second, so go ahead and try to surprise me .

Heres a fine example of how I fly. With F35B I fly in bomb mode, in MiG or J10 I fly in missile mode. And Im a very experienced pilot.

@ Chris: If you know the j-10 can outmanuever you in the F-35b, don't get into a turning fight with them. It's sooo simple, know your disadvantages, and don't let the enemy use them against you.

Its like preaching to the pope, which is retarded, considering Ive been telling everyone the same thing. Right now, J10 exceeds F35B in EVERY aspect, with an exception, which is response lag, which isnt big. This creates an environment where the outcome of dogfight relies solely on how well can F35B pilot surprise the J10 pilot. Thats it. IF however, the F35B is being chased, it depends on how INEXPERIENCED the J10 pilot is. Because you only have one chance, those are flares. Opposing jet is superior. So if the pilot is any good, youre toast.

Balanced or not, it is better that way, because it is so much more rewarding to use tactics effectively than to just be able to shoot everyone down without any real thought.

You mean like in J10? So you agree is overpowered? So why the hell are you playing the daddy here and teaching pilots how to fly? Were talking about aircraft inbalance here, not pilots skill level. Current aircraft balance for me gives me the opportunity to fly the MiG and J10 in missile mode with no threat, no thought and no effort. I LOVE the challenge, which is why I almost always why the F35B. Go check my aircraft balancing post, which is a few pages back. Youll see that the changes I propose are there to not to equalize the jets, but to make their strenghts and weaknesses apparent, while giving inferior fighter jets a better chance at dogfights. Im talking about MINIMUM changes to improve differences.

Quit trying to mold the game to your wants, a lot of people like it the way it is, and enjoy having to think a little bit.

And by that you surely mean the J10 pilots and shot down F35B pilots.

On a side note: Saying that planes are overpowered and need to be toned down is ridiculous. It's airpower, it is supposed to be overpowered, it would be retarded if planes couldn't bomb bases or destroy vehicles. Get over it you whiny bitches.

I could have a long big post to back this up, but I know the Karkand newbies would just shut the fvck up, go to another topic and whine about the same stuff again....

[Profe]

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Why are you such a crybaby? can't you handle some disadvantage? You keep saying a good j10 pilot this a, a good j10 pilot that, if it is a good j10 pilot, he'll kill you because he is a good pilot, not because of an uber jet.

Yes the j10 handles better than the f35b, but you can still shoot them down. The fact is you are refusing to figure out strategies and instead trying to have the game changed to your petty predilection.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Why are you such a crybaby? can't you handle some disadvantage? You keep saying a good j10 pilot this a, a good j10 pilot that, if it is a good j10 pilot, he'll kill you because he is a good pilot, not because of an uber jet.

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Allright, you win. J10 is equal to F35B. Im being killed by a J10 pilot ONLY because hes a good pilot. ONLY.

Yes the j10 handles better than the f35b, but you can still shoot them down.

Quote me, directly, that I have said that I cant kill a J10 pilot. Do it. And dont fvcking ignore this.

The fact is you are refusing to figure out strategies and instead trying to have the game changed to your petty predilection.

Ok, teach me. List your strategies of taking down a J10 pilot. Here and now. Ill listen to you.

Im a n00b pilot that just got his frst 10 hours filled. I need your guidance.

[Xodus]

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Allright, you win. J10 is equal to F35B. Im being killed by a J10 pilot ONLY because hes a good pilot. ONLY.



Quote me, directly, that I have said that I cant kill a J10 pilot. Do it. And dont fvcking ignore this.



Ok, teach me. List your strategies of taking down a J10 pilot. Here and now. Ill listen to you.

Im a n00b pilot that just got his frst 10 hours filled. I need your guidance.

Pull, up, Kill throttle, get him in front of you, Machine gun. About 2 or 3 of these, usually 2 for me, He'll be down.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Pull, up, Kill throttle, get him in front of you, Machine gun. About 2 or 3 of these, usually 2 for me, He'll be down.

Keep distance, see you pull up, follow, see you kil throttle (nozzle going down), full lock, you break flares, you cant maneuver out. 2 missiles through flares, 2 missiles after I cut through flares. Easiest kill

[2142-Android]

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The only way I think is good to beat a j-10 in a f-35 Is follow him with missile locked on but do not fire, wait till he drops his flares then switch to bomb mode(he thinks he's lost you) But follow him in bomb mode and when he levels out and flies straight then switch to missiles and nail him. This as worked heaps of times for me, But I have to fire all 6 because only about 2 usally hit.

[Xodus]

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Keep distance, see you pull up, follow, see you kil throttle (nozzle going down), full lock, you break flares, you cant maneuver out. 2 missiles through flares, 2 missiles after I cut through flares. Easiest kill

Uhh, if you don't go down all the way, and only go to 0 throttle instead of negative, the nozzle doesn't go down.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Uhh, if you don't go down all the way, and only go to 0 throttle instead of negative, the nozzle doesn't go down.

Speed loss is apparent. Thats why its not necessary for jets to come close, with uber-missiles. You slow down, I catch up. And how do you go to 0 throttle with no nozzle movement is beyond me. You can go CLOSE to zero. But in battle, you cant go precisely to 0. Coming from my experience. Youll lever have perfect zero, and most likely youll cross over the 0 point.

[Vintageologist]

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Allright, you win. J10 is equal to F35B. Im being killed by a J10 pilot ONLY because hes a good pilot. ONLY.

Must be... funny thing, every time I am in a J10, the F35s are only flewn by n00bs...

Ok, teach me. List your strategies of taking down a J10 pilot. Here and now. Ill listen to you.

It's sooooo easy n00b... when they're on the runway having 100 kids blocking them so they can't start, bomb the **** out of 'em.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Must be... funny thing, every time I am in a J10, the F35s are only flewn by n00bs...

Way to set yourself up there newbie. It gets even funnier on your next line.

It's sooooo easy n00b... when they're on the runway having 100 kids blocking them so they can't start, bomb the **** out of 'em.

Man youre so good. Your skill level is amazing.

Now lets connect the dots. That means. "Me", "J10", "n00bs in F35B", all that I need is the word "carrier". Man, youre so good, Im impressed...

[Vintageologist]

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Way to set yourself up there newbie. It gets even funnier on your next line.



Man youre so good. Your skill level is amazing.

Now lets connect the dots. That means. "Me", "J10", "n00bs in F35B", all that I need is the word "carrier". Man, youre so good, Im impressed...

lol you dummy, that was meant as a joke, but you ruined it.