Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

[N2K]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

WtH is your problem?

My problem is BF isn't an IO style game, and all these lamers who get killed by armor blame it on the whore but never think it might be thier team for spawning as a sniper to counter it.

Stop making this game like if you were setting up your house for a baby that is learning to walk. Combat is not beautiful nor it's IO.

I see a lot of people complaining that it will IO will be full of stat padders and such, wouldn't the simple solution be that it can onl be run on un-ranked servers.

Oh.... and take HP back to what it was.....thanks.

They don't want it because they can't win points for thier lameness.

[imported_BlueScreen]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

If you want infantry only mode, the solution is simple.. Counterstrike. [...]

While i agree that the current Infantry only option is crap cause of more health, less speed, ... i don't understand who forces you to play this OPTIONAL mode ???

If you don't like it don't play it but i'm pretty sick of hearing people telling other people "This is the way this game has to be played and the rest should play CS, UT, Solitair, Pawnzor the n00b or whatever". As long as it's an OPTION - who cares, there are surely some guys who like it so let them enjoy it :)

[kiss my RICE]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Whats worng with IO is that BF wasn't meant to be an armor free game.

If you want real IO and Marine action go play Close Combat: First to Fight.

Please, no more of this "go play this, go play that" bs. First, I don't have CS..so stop telling me "if u want inf combat..go play this $hit". I also don't play to pay 30 bucks for a game with infantry only combat when there is a perfectly fine one right in front of me, called BF2. Look, I admit that DICE has messed up the game repeatedly, but, it still has nearly 2 million customers. They got the job done, and the community is still there...nearly twice as large as the QW community, and it is growing still to this day. The decrease in damage thing is pretty smart...instant kill claymores, with large detonation radiuses bother me, and a chance to actually get revenge on the sniper that dropped the claymore will be all the sweeter. Medics dominating maps is not completely true, transport vehicles will still be left in, so turrets will dominate the map. Also, remember that there is still body armor, with decreased damage, this will probably reduce all weapon damage against classes such as the support, assault, and AT with body armor, and render them nearly immune to crappy weapon damage. Sniper headshots are still instand kill, and trust me, you find enough of those per day to satisfy even the craziest, mindless killer.

DICE, I will have to admit, in the nicest sense possible, that you guys did a absocrappin'fabulous job on this game. If you guys went back to version 1.0, with vehicle drop, squad hopping back in, road to jalabad, and all the other goodies that you guys have actually given us for free, this game would be f***ing amazing. However, you didn't do that...just released more and more half finished, and half polished patches. Now, we've ended up with a OK online shooter, but one that I won't leave because, thanks too all the admins, clans, and website owners out there like MyIS, they have created a massive and awesome community, on the weak foundations that DICE layed down, we should all thank these hardworking website owners *claps*

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

I think the one this that everybody agrees on in this thread is that these odd ball changes such as long spawn timers and ultra health reservoirs is a bad idea for IO. It makes the medic too powerful, and makes too many other classes useless. And even without these things, IO will still have almost all the classes useless.

I'm also glad DICE is listening to these forums and paying attention, it's the gamers playing BF2 that have the best understanding of the gameplay dynamics.

Just to play devils advocate for a second, I think the only acceptable mode of IO (if DICE feels they absolutely HAVE to add it) would be something with a modified vehicle selection with more transport vehicles. For example Sharqi would have a transport helicopters to replace the attack helicopters, and an extra jeep for every tank/APC lost. That'd at least give engineers and anti-tank kits something to do. Of course you'd also have to either make these statistics UNRANKED or ranked completely separately. For example, you could have a rank of X on a regular server, but when an IO server map rolled around you'd instead have a rank of Y. That'll leave the mode available only for the people who actually want to play IO, and not the people who want to pad stats. That's something I'd actually personally consider playing. Not Battlefield 2 IO, but rather a modified vehicle selection that supports and puts more emphasis on the infantry aspect.

Going slightly off topic for a moment:

Since I know DICE is listening, I'd also like to take this time to recommend as one of the top Battlefield 2 pilots to take a good hard look at how the A2A functions currently. Boosting the AA turn radius doesn't do a damn thing to solve the J-10 imbalance (the single largest balance issue in the entire game next to the medic), because as of the 1.3 patch not a single F-35B has yet managed to get a solid lock on me while in a J-10. Making A2A missiles always hit again also makes things more frustrating for all pilots. You need to completely rework the plane handling characteristics to make them more even, and then seriously consider toning down the A2A missiles to a level where they'll miss regardless of airplane as long as the plane being targeted has reached the maximum turn rate for that plane. That'd actually turn cannons in to something that'd have to be used again in air to air combat and make everything much more skillful like it used to be back in 1.1-1.2.

It's a perfectly simple solution, and then to define the different planes after closing the gap on handling give them something a little less game breaking. For example: J-10 = 8 A2A missiles, Mig = 30% faster flare reload, F-35B = 20% More cannon ammo and afterburner, F-18 = 3 bombs. You get the idea.

[MemphisVon]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Ok I missed something somewhere, they are increasing HP? And the claymore wont be able to 1 hit kill anymore? So rather than a whole clip to kill someone, its going to take 2? Wtf, over?

[Talus]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Solution is simple.

Make Infantry Only UNRANKED.

Both sides get what they want.

The vehicle people will get to enjoy their vehicles and hopefully DICE/EA will continue to work on balance and the Infantry people can go crazy and change lots of settings and options and make up their own rules and balance, decide which vehicles to include etc on their own group of servers.

It should be considered JUST LIKE A MOD.

[Combined]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Ok I missed something somewhere, they are increasing HP? And the claymore wont be able to 1 hit kill anymore? So rather than a whole clip to kill someone, its going to take 2? Wtf, over?

that's right, I read a post by someone who played 1.4: he claimed it takes 4 GL rounds to kill someone, or two C4 packs. So you can imagine how many SVD hits it will take to kill someone... fifty five body shots? lawl.

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Solution is simple.

Make Infantry Only UNRANKED.

Both sides get what they want.

The vehicle people will get to enjoy their vehicles and hopefully DICE/EA will continue to work on balance and the Infantry people can go crazy and change lots of settings and options and make up their own rules and balance, decide which vehicles to include etc on their own group of servers.

It should be considered JUST LIKE A MOD.

Agreed.

[N2K]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

I second that

[frazzman]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Agreed.

Oh well that seals it then doesnt it :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I think it SHOULD be ranked

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Oh well that seals it then doesnt it :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I think it SHOULD be ranked

Well of course, all you (and most IO fanboys) want to do is run around on APC/tank neutered Karkand with no artillery to worry about and revive people, throw medpacks on the ground and pad those stats up. You'll feel reallll good about yourself I'm sure when you end up with 150 points in a 15 minute round. Take that vehicle whores!!

Oh, and having me completely agree with everything a particular poster says means they're on the right track. Some people can see ten moves ahead of the game, and I'm one of those people.

[Talus]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

You've certainly been right in the past...

[MemphisVon]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

They wont be any medic-whoring going on because they wont be able to kill anyone...

[Strega]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Well said PlaneWhore.

Dice needs to fix bugs, not change gameplay or add features. Get the current game working FIRST. Idiots.

[imported_Deliverance]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Well of course, all you (and most IO fanboys) want to do is run around on APC/tank neutered Karkand with no artillery to worry about and revive people, throw medpacks on the ground and pad those stats up. You'll feel reallll good about yourself I'm sure when you end up with 150 points in a 15 minute round. Take that vehicle whores!!

Oh, and having me completely agree with everything a particular poster says means they're on the right track. Some people can see ten moves ahead of the game, and I'm one of those people.

Dude, step back and read your posts before posting. You had a go at me earlier for stereotyping when you have just done exactly that.

Im an IO 'fanboy'. I couldnt give a rats arse about stats, in fact i have been an opponent of the whole idea of the Global ranking system since the outset. It is the cause of stat padding, and dramatically increases the number of cheats in the game. I couldnt care less about a few fictional, meaningless medals or fantasy points, which in the grand scheme of life mean Jack.

I like the idea of Infantry only purely because of the teamwork it promotes. I play because i enjoy playing with likeminded people, having a laugh on VOIP. My reasoning behind wanting it ranked is purely because unranked servers arent popular. I would happily play it unranked if enough people did the same, but the fact is they wont.

And as for being 10 steps ahead? Blowing your trumpet it a bit there arent you?