Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

[imported_Sephiroth]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

OMG IO mode??

WTF???

Is this battlefield or Cs??

OMG why the hell is dice listening to whiners??

Dindt they have enough nerfing the bh??

Nerfing the tanks??

nerfing the apcs??

nerfing the noob tubes??

Nerfing everything??

Why do i have to see my favourite game change cause of ***** whiners?

Lets go through a couple of these which made me laugh.

OMG why the hell is dice listening to whiners??

Because they are having a game mode for people with a different opinion to you :O.

Why do i have to see my favourite game change cause of ***** whiners?

If the whole game had been changed to IO and vehicles completly removed, id understand you getting angry, but its an OPTIONAL game mode, so whats the problem? your 10 inches of armour are still on conquest for you to hide behind like a scared rabbit, and your 1337 turrent of hell if above you for when you want to pwn some. So in all i leave you with a quote from burnt face man.

"calm down baby, have a piece of cheese."

[LOWrider_NL]

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Excuse me my choice??

When i get artilleryed, or killed by chopper i try to find a solution.

If my chopper isnt available or isnt doing the job then i get a tank.

If not available or whatever i get an AA.

And in the worst case scenario a Tow.

I even try joining someone trying to get it down ( do you think you´re the only one getting owned?? ) and try to bring him down with my rockets.

Again. if that is the easy way then....

So thats it, you are resuming all the game and its potential in one sole thing. That sucks.

that's right, you need skills to shoot down that chopper in your own, but i was talking about the people IN the chopper. they don't need skills.

its fact??

Its your fact.

Try flying a plane looking at the hud and searching for targets the grpund trooops have spotted. Then hitting them with the only two bombs.

yes, it's a fact. you can ask anyone. probly you never played 1.4 IO.

and with only 2 bombs? don't make me laugh. 1 bomb is 100X as strong as a nade. and when you dropped, just refuel.

[Fenristh]

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Lets go through a couple of these which made me laugh.


Because they are having a game mode for people with a different opinion to you :O.


If the whole game had been changed to IO and vehicles completly removed, id understand you getting angry, but its an OPTIONAL game mode, so whats the problem? your 10 inches of armour are still on conquest for you to hide behind like a scared rabbit, and your 1337 turrent of hell if above you for when you want to pwn some. So in all i leave you with a quote from burnt face man.

"calm down baby, have a piece of cheese."

Yum yum, that was nice.

I think this is a good game mode. When im trying to shoot someone either sniping or specops or whatever and get killed by some bastard man behind 6" of armour I fail to see the poin in them playing. I could get an amazing score by bumming tanks like your regular Kitmitsu, but I play the game for pwnage via fun. Not pressing w down and left click.

[redrider]

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You would think that dice would have gotten the message by now. Hey Dice, just fix the game, already. Dont add silly stuff for the unskilled players and whiners. I didnt buy counter strike for a reason and dont want this game to be a CS clone. Cheese. . . . . . .Red

[Verzili]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

You would think that dice would have gotten the message by now. Hey Dice, just fix the game, already. Dont add silly stuff for the unskilled players and whiners. I didnt buy counter strike for a reason and dont want this game to be a CS clone. Cheese. . . . . . .Red

so let me get this straight youre saying in IO mode when my team has killed all the players we are rewarded with virtual cash and then have to go a rescue hostages or find and stop the bomb from exploding........wow thanks for spoiling IO,i wanted to find out what the gameplay was myself,now you said it like css,ive lost all excitement.

oh yeh its bf2 and is nowhere near css gameplay.

css = small maps
bf2= big maps
css= win money and buy guns
bf2= chose a kit and play no money to be won at any time.
css=only one game style (kill+cash+end round+start again)
bf2 = capture, hold,defend,in conquest or IO (both are optional unlike css)can play with vehicles or with out

did i mention gfx ,no bf2 are way better.

seriously its a optional gamemode you are not forced to play it.

[Turnip]

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It was the whiners who ruined the game for infantry by nerfing the AA, from 1.12 to 1.3 the only thing that has been nerfed has been infantry, and they were at the bottom rung already. So we should get something in return, not that im an infantry only guy but its just lame on some maps to play them.

[Chris_Redfield]

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It was the whiners who ruined the game for infantry by nerfing the AA, from 1.12 to 1.3 the only thing that has been nerfed has been infantry, and they were at the bottom rung already. So we should get something in return, not that im an infantry only guy but its just lame on some maps to play them.

LOL.

How about ruined ATA combat? Black Hawk? Attack choppers which now people are posting threads about taking one down with a sniper rifle (WHAT THE F***?!?!?!)

DICE has created something to give you groundpounders a break. Blame the same infantry who gets the jets and STILL doesnt engage other jets, even though the missiles hit with laughable ease!

Only infantry? Dont make me laugh, this is pathetic.

Youre too scared to face a tank, man, you should be. Have a look at "Band of brothers" or "Saving Private Ryan" and pay attention to how they yell "TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !" when one emerges. Newsflash, a tank is a force multiplier and you should very well god damn be scared of it. Needless to say that the maps offer plenty of distance and cover to engage one.

As for jets, evading bombs is laughably easy. Stay off a flag for a moment if you neutralize it, then get the hell out of there. Jets bomb flag areas central area. Stay near the sides and try to not to be on the jets bombing path (every flag has one), and youre fine.

[LOWrider_NL]

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Only infantry? Dont make me laugh, this is pathetic.

Youre too scared to face a tank, man, you should be. Have a look at "Band of brothers" or "Saving Private Ryan" and pay attention to how they yell "TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !" when one emerges. Newsflash, a tank is a force multiplier and you should very well god damn be scared of it. Needless to say that the maps offer plenty of distance and cover to engage one.

that's the problem. i don't want to cover :)

[Red Devil]

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Sniper-only maps are fun, especially with 72 expert bots. Just poke your head up or around a corner and it's zzzzzZIP!zzzzzZIP!zzzzzZIP!zzzzzZIP! :laugh:

Tank-only maps are fun too.

[Turnip]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Only infantry? Dont make me laugh, this is pathetic.

Youre too scared to face a tank, man, you should be. Have a look at "Band of brothers" or "Saving Private Ryan" and pay attention to how they yell "TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !" when one emerges. Newsflash, a tank is a force multiplier and you should very well god damn be scared of it. Needless to say that the maps offer plenty of distance and cover to engage one.


I find tanks easy to take out, they have cons for any advantage they get and they still need to rely on teamwork.
As for jets they deter the whole purpose of getting flags and large scale firefights, they require no teamwork, and most the time do nothing but bomb the crap out of whatever squad is working together trying to cap flags and trying to legitametly kill the enemy. All the while the AA does crap all, and most the time your own jets are either getting raped to hard to help, or just wont bother.

So in the end people just want to play in their squad, cap the flag, and kill the enemy, without the climactic finisher of having to respawn. But I suppose that we dont deserve this because the 2 pilots on our team suck... When will we learn our lesson.

[Chris_Redfield]

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I find tanks easy to take out, they have cons for any advantage they get and they still need to rely on teamwork.

The exact same thing goes for air force. Air force is a step or two above armor.

As for jets they deter the whole purpose of getting flags

Bullsh!t. Use your brains and you will not get caught with your pants down. As a teamworker-bomber who bombs flags and targets which are the most crucial for my team, I can say with 100% certainty that you CAN avoid my drops. And Im a good bomber. Bombing works only with certain landmarks. Be it a target indicator on the HUD, a flag pole or a AA nest. The simpliest way to stay alive is to leave the flagzone when you neutralize it. Then come back, quickly get it, and then leave again. You can also work a bait out, leave one man at the flag to die, so the bomber will not come back. Has worked on my squad. But people are way too lazy to put their mind into the game, so they ***** and moan that air force is too great. Screw that, air force is not a flag capturing force. Ask Metallica, if his 99 kill run won the game for his team.

and large scale firefights

Air force and armor are designed to break stalamates, I dont see why do you have a problem with this? Youd prefer a good long firefight, frankly, so do I. But I also want that flag capped.

And here we go, heres the HUMAN FACTOR of the game.

and most the time do nothing but bomb the crap out of whatever squad is working together trying to cap flags and trying to legitametly kill the enemy.

First of all, what the fvck is a legitimate kill? During the patches and BF2 history, its the INFANTRY side of the game known for the worst assortment of NON-legitimate kills. So you have no reason to ***** in the first place. Secondly, most of the kills gotten by jets and choppers are people too stupid to think out of the box, or who cant leave a spawn to man that .50 cal and blast the chopper off the skies from just another location. Or, you have a full squad around the flag, thinking they are safe. Newsflash "Weve lost control of ... outpost" sets my nose immediately towards the flag. Is this air support and teamwork? Of course it is. Does your 5.56 rifle stand a chance? No. Is it supposed to? No.

All the while the AA does crap all, and most the time your own jets are either getting raped to hard to help, or just wont bother.

Right, even though peopöe have taken their time to post up AA tutorials. And Ive said it countless of times, "lock tone" works wonders. AA is NOT an offensive weapon, so dont expect 10:1 KDR in it. Common sense, why cnat you get it?

So in the end people just want to play in their squad, cap the flag, and kill the enemy, without the climactic finisher of having to respawn.

Yeah right.

Let me rephraze this for you.

"People fight over a flag for 10 minutes, while not having to worry about stalemate breaker nor force multiplier. In other words, people dont have to worrry about anything that can kill them while they play with a sniper kit."

You know, enforcing stupidity as a legit gameplay in BF2 is a shameful way. You want infantry only? Unranked specialized servers is the way to go.

While soldiers in BF2, default state combat all kinds of threats and earn their points the LEGITIMATE way, we have ******* and whiners who cant adapt, playing a sniper/support/medic ****fest. How cute.

But I suppose that we dont deserve this because the 2 pilots on our team suck... When will we learn our lesson.

Actually you do. Ive said it many times and I say it again. Pilots who dont engage enemy jets for the sake of their team are ******* and worthless players. I feel for infantry players who have to play with lack of air support, it breaks my heart, really. But you cant patch that.

[Red Devil]

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Totally agree about clearing out once that flag goes neutral. I see so many guys just standing there waiting for the ineveitable bombs or artillery. [shakes head]

I have to say that Teamwork beats all. And Good Teamwork beats Poor Teamwork.

When I've played MP, we had the SL hang back and paid attention to the messages and chose our kits accordingly.

"Enemy Armor Spotted!" = AT Kit = Dead Armor

And we wouldn't cluster together to make a nice, fat juicy target.

We'd have one guy lay mines at choke points, one guy lay down medkits, one guy lay down ammo and covering fire and suppressing fire, one guy sniping and spotting and claymoring access to the flag, one guy C4'ing bridges, flags, and assets, and one guy laying down smoke. If we had a pilot or two, even better.

When you all work together as a Squad, you become a big self-healing, self-suppporting unit.

When you work together as an infantry squad with armor and air cover, you can lay waste your enemies.

Infantry Only *is* fun though and it is just an *option* and the more options, the better. :)

[imported_Sephiroth]

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Youre too scared to face a tank, man, you should be. Have a look at "Band of brothers" or "Saving Private Ryan" and pay attention to how they yell "TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !" when one emerges. Newsflash, a tank is a force multiplier and you should very well god damn be scared of it. Needless to say that the maps offer plenty of distance and cover to engage one.

But in those movies, you dont see a tank aroud every corner in saving private Rya and its not ww2 0_o. I would'nt hate tanks as much if they got a 1/4 of the points. I just dont see how getting a high rank through tanks is at all satisfying, or even an accomplishment. :/

[Chris_Redfield]

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But in those movies, you dont see a tank aroud every corner in saving private Rya and its not ww2 0_o. I would'nt hate tanks as much if they got a 1/4 of the points. I just dont see how getting a high rank through tanks is at all satisfying, or even an accomplishment. :/

Why, every time we talk about vehicle unbalance, theres always someone who talks about vehicles getting more points...

And you dont see a tank in Karkand around every corner. Nor did Ryans group
have an aility to respawn in AT soldiers to quickly dispose of of the tanks.

And this isnt WW2 were talking about, this is infantry facing a tank and what this situation looks and feels like.

Tanks > Infantry

[X-ander]

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Bombing is not that hard, and you really dont have to worry about the bomber taking out your infantry. So really you got 1 thing to worry about and thats the enemy plane, and those infantry that are getting "taken out by the enemy bomber" dont ONLY have to worry about that enemy plane like you do, they have to worry about every single god damn thing from hills that are to steep, to going between a car thats parked to close to a wall. So go ahead and counter this with "planes are supposed to rule the battlefield" or whatever other crap you can produce because planes are the newbiest thing in the game, and any fun they might have been has been stripped down by people like you who just want godmode, and say unhhh planes are to harddddd.

Again, if you are so unskilled that you cant take out an enemy, its your problem. go and play Cs quake or whatever **** that doesant have vehicl4es.

this game is about war, not nooblets grenade spamming, mine whoring and lamer instant proning.

If there is skill in all that **** you like to do then flying a copter between three iglas is a piece of cake.

The reality is you got to play the wrong game:

anyhow they should leave io mode to special forces that gme is full of campers, instant proners, grenade spammers and mine whores.

Played yesterday for the first time and i dindt saw any skill at all. Just a bunch of lame nooblets with lots of noob tubes and grapling hooks camping in the top of the buildings.

Lets go through a couple of these which made me laugh.

Your entire 100 posts through the forum made me laugh but anyway...

Because they are having a game mode for people with a different opinion to you :O.

Diferent opinion??

Diferent statements that want to change the game it what it isnt, a simple Cs, quake or smilar.

If the whole game had been changed to IO and vehicles completly removed, id understand you getting angry, but its an OPTIONAL game mode, so whats the problem?

Im starting to ask myself if you bunch of ignorants really know how to read; again try understanding the original posters argument: Vehicles offer in servers decrese and therefore its more difficult to get in a vehicle in other servers.

your 10 inches of armour are still on conquest for you to hide behind like a scared rabbit, and your 1337 turrent of hell if above you for when you want to pwn some. So in all i leave you with a quote from burnt face man.

"calm down baby, have a piece of cheese."

I can pWn you on foot, on head and on whatever.

In fact i played yesterday SF for the first time and understood why there is people asing for an IO mode, you can rak 60-85 points only in maps like warlord grenade spaming, medic whoring, claymore suiciding and noob toobing.. i wonder why they left the spalsh damage in Special Forces untouched.. maybe they wanted to please the unskilled foot ***** bunny hoppers.

BTW, thats another thing i notices, you people think there is skill in doing what you do... i think Instant proning, bunny hoping is not only unrealistic but also super lame. But hey you can stick with your stupid and funny phrases, ill still argue about my facts, which give me the reason btw

that's right, you need skills to shoot down that chopper in your own, but i was talking about the people IN the chopper. they don't need skills.

But they enhance teamwork.

Compare the Bh now and in 1.00.

Now it sits there doing nothing, before there where bunch of people making sure no one went out of ammo, health or engineering fixes.

yes, it's a fact. you can ask anyone. probly you never played 1.4 IO.

and with only 2 bombs? don't make me laugh. 1 bomb is 100X as strong as a nade. and when you dropped, just refuel.

Tried getting to bomb a tank with a fighter??

You have to aim perfectly in order to hit it. And to kill a ground troop you have to aim at least in a radius than no more of 20 meters.

Yum yum, that was nice.

I think this is a good game mode. When im trying to shoot someone either sniping or specops or whatever and get killed by some bastard man behind 6" of armour I fail to see the poin in them playing. I could get an amazing score by bumming tanks like your regular Kitmitsu, but I play the game for pwnage via fun. Not pressing w down and left click.

Nice for people like you that are playing the wroing game.

If you dont like tanks, vehicles and stuff go and play something else.

Dont ask for a Gme mode that perverts the games spirit.

OMG, stupid arguments:

Just cause you get owned by armour you go crying to dice.

If you dont know whow to get out a vehicle then i also say too you: **** yourself.

that's the problem. i don't want to cover :)

Ahhh sincerity starts to emerge.

Start by saying that you want to play the easy way, with no tactics.

No cover, no startegy, no facing big problems, not making new solutions to unspected demands,etc.

I like the word:

Gournd punders... dont want even to take cover: GREAT DICE, and you are listening to this people??

Oh my godness...

Only infantry? Dont make me laugh, this is pathetic.

Youre too scared to face a tank, man, you should be. Have a look at "Band of brothers" or "Saving Private Ryan" and pay attention to how they yell "TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !" when one emerges. Newsflash, a tank is a force multiplier and you should very well god damn be scared of it. Needless to say that the maps offer plenty of distance and cover to engage one.


I find tanks easy to take out, they have cons for any advantage they get and they still need to rely on teamwork.
As for jets they deter the whole purpose of getting flags and large scale firefights, they require no teamwork, and most the time do nothing but bomb the crap out of whatever squad is working together trying to cap flags and trying to legitametly kill the enemy. All the while the AA does crap all, and most the time your own jets are either getting raped to hard to help, or just wont bother.

So in the end people just want to play in their squad, cap the flag, and kill the enemy, without the climactic finisher of having to respawn. But I suppose that we dont deserve this because the 2 pilots on our team suck... When will we learn our lesson.

you are manipulating.

If you have a problem with a jet, go grab an igla and take it yourself.

If the jet bombs the hell out of you he is LEGITIMATE to do that AND DEFEND HIS FLAG.

IF you have a problem, go and do what you recall to be doing: teamwork by comunicating your jet fighter to bring him down, or someone on your squad get into one of the many AA emplacements.

Legitimate attack says... OMG .