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  • BlueBunny63
    Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 357

    #136
    Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

    This is a popular thread.

    It's always sorta fun yet sad to read how indignant the Brits become about others owning guns, when they can’t. I feel for you guys, I really do, but your country is run by a bunch of lefty hoplophobes... whaddaya expect?

    Don't be jealous, do what my Ozzie friend does - he comes over and stays with me every couple of years, and I take him shooting. Gives him an infusion of hope, since at least one free country still exists in this world. We go to a range, have some fun with rented MP5s, I teach him how to shoot my Glock and P7 again, and then we go out to the desert for some fun with AR15s and AK47s.

    Life is great in the USA, that's why everyone keeps trying to come live here. The only thing we need is a highway system like the Germans have, and some more women who look like those lovely English roses, and we'd have a perfect country.

    As for the IRL... I've owned or at least spent time on the range with M16s, AK47s, an AK101, G3s, an M95, a bazillion different kinds of handguns, regular MP5s and MP5SDs, a Glilon (short Galil), an HK21, Benelli M1 Super90 shotguns both short and long, Steyr MPi69, Steyr TMP, and a variety of sniper rifles, plus all the usual civilian varieties of guns.

    I'd like to own another HK91 (semi-only G3), and HK21s are a fun way to burn ammo, but the really interesting guns are the accurate, long-range stuff, which means for me it would have to be the L96, which is the closest in-game gun to my real dream gun, which would be a Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua Magnum, with a Schmidt & Bender scope, a bipod, and about 5 spare mags.

    But here's what might be surprising to some, given my experience with shooting: I can honestly say that shooting guns is pretty overrated as a recreational activity, at least for me. I'm pretty good, I've gotten trophies and ranked at the top of every training class I've taken, including rifle classes with Mas Ayoob, and although I love shooting, people who don't do it a lot tend to idolize or glorify it more than it warrants.

    Shooting is a serious, zen-like thing. It's nothing like the spray and pray garbage in BF2. And that's what makes it interesting, because it's so hard to do it well, not because it's some sex-related or violence-related high like those who envy us shooters often claim. Believe me, the feminists are wrong about guns, like they’re wrong about almost everything else.

    It's always fun to take an anti-gunner to the range, show them what it's all about, and see their eyes light up when they finally understand that guns don't inspire violence or criminal intent, but instead make you very respectful of life, and other people, and result in a great appreciation of things like trust, mutual respect, and comradeship.

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    • [Tex]Headinjury

      #137
      Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

      Also, do some research on the Texas Revolution. If you had told the defenders of the Alamo that they didnt need guns because it was just plain stupid to stand up to an army like that I wonder how fast they shoved your thumbs up your ass and threw you out of there.

      around 200 Texans and over 500 Mexicans died at the Alamo.

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      • imported_Walker

        #138
        Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

        Originally posted by BlueBunny63
        It's always fun to read how indignant the Brits become about having been castrated where their self-defense rights are concerned. I feel for you guys, I really do, but your country is run by a bunch of lefty hoplophobes... whaddaya expect?

        Don't be jealous, do what my Ozzie friend does - he comes over and stays with me every couple of years, and I take him shooting. Gives him an infusion of hope, since at least one free country still exists in this world. We go to a range, have some fun with rented MP5s, I teach him how to shoot my Glock and P7 again, and then we go out to the desert for some fun with AR15s and AK47s.
        Heh, that put a smile on my face. As a lefty myself, i quite like this country :)

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        • 18Zulukiller
          Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 1107

          #139
          Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

          Originally posted by [Tex]Headinjury
          Thats the whole point, rebels cannot up front defeat any of the worlds militaries. Never have, never will. They CAN make it difficult to the point that the government decides the war isnt worth fighting. Take the South during the Civil War. If we had held off a little longer, the citizens of the North were getting tired of the war taxing them to death. (same as here, now during OP Iraqi Freedom by-god! its the same!) It would no longer be profitable for the north to continue the war and you would have the CSA.

          Ahh i think i know were the misunderstandings coming from now between your posts and mine when i think of a corrupt government I'm thinking of hitler
          were your not. You see with what your saying is completely valid in a normal war (well as close to normal as you can get). But what ive been talking about is if a complete nutters get in theres no way to get rid of them im sure most of the germans during ww2 didnt want hitler but they had no way to get rid of him and it took a combination of the most powerfull nations in the world to get rid of him.

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          • [Tex]Headinjury

            #140
            Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

            Originally posted by 18zulukiller
            Ahh i think i know were the misunderstandings coming from now between your posts and mine when i think of a corrupt government I'm thinking of hitler
            were your not. You see with what your saying is completely valid in a normal war (well as close to normal as you can get). But what ive been talking about is if a complete nutters get in theres no way to get rid of them im sure most of the germans during ww2 didnt want hitler but they had no way to get rid of him and it took a combination of the most powerfull nations in the world to get rid of him.
            Again, post WW1 germany was in such financial ruin that the people really couldnt do much to stop him. And if you want to take the POV of a 1861 Southerner, the government had been taken over by a bunch of complete nutters.

            Originally posted by Walker
            Heh, that put a smile on my face. As a lefty myself, i quite like this country :)
            I dont see what's so great about not being able to own a gun. You can really do that anywhere since im pretty sure theres no country that forces it's citizens to own guns.

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            • imported_Walker

              #141
              Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

              Thats my point too, what if a government that is completely moderate by left wing standards is seen as a bunch of nutters by the right wing militia-type people?

              It doesnt need to be an oppressive government for it to create an adverse reaction among the gun-toting population of America. How would people react if a properly left-wing government came to power?

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              • [Tex]Headinjury

                #142
                Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                Originally posted by Walker
                Thats my point too, what if a government that is completely moderate by left wing standards is seen as a bunch of nutters by the right wing militia-type people?

                It doesnt need to be an oppressive government for it to create an adverse reaction among the gun-toting population of America. How would people react if a properly left-wing government came to power?
                Well it looks like the people who are concious of their rights and want to keep their rights get to have a little more power than the people who dont care about their rights and are interested in taking those rights away from others. Hmmmmm not sure about you but that sounds like the perfect balance of power to me.

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                • Ctay

                  #143
                  Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                  Originally posted by BlueBunny63
                  Shooting is a serious, zen-like thing. It's nothing like the spray and pray garbage in BF2. And that's what makes it interesting, because it's so hard to do it well, not because it's some sex-related or violence-related high like those who envy us shooters often claim. Believe me, the feminists are wrong about guns, like they’re wrong about almost everything else.

                  It's always fun to take an anti-gunner to the range, show them what it's all about, and see their eyes light up when they finally understand that guns don't inspire violence or criminal intent, but instead make you very respectful of life, and other people, and result in a great appreciation of things like trust, mutual respect, and comradeship.
                  You should go try shooting some Tannerite! It will turn shooting back into sex pretty quick!

                  CTay
                  P.S. Don't mess with Texas... or New Mexico, its slightly lamer friend....

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                  • imported_Walker

                    #144
                    Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                    Originally posted by [Tex]Headinjury
                    I dont see what's so great about not being able to own a gun. You can really do that anywhere since im pretty sure theres no country that forces it's citizens to own guns.
                    I like that other people CANT go out and own guns. The chances of me walking down any highstreet in the UK and walking past someone with a gun on them is infinitesimal compared to a street in the USA. Our gun murder rate is 1/40th of the US's. That's what is great.

                    Originally posted by [Tex]Headinjury
                    Well it looks like the people who are concious of their rights and want to keep their rights get to have a little more power than the people who dont care about their rights and are interested in taking those rights away from others. Hmmmmm not sure about you but that sounds like the perfect balance of power to me.
                    I think thats just an ethnocentric perspective, simply because they dont subscribe to what you define as a right then they are inferior?

                    I personally believe freedom of speech, and freedom of life and the right to a trial by a jury of your peers are much more important than the freedom to carry a gun, does that mean that i dont care as much as you about my rights?

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                    • Blackdeath

                      #145
                      Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                      FAMAS or P90 Btw were not even allowed to have Airsoft in CA...

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                      • imported_Walker

                        #146
                        Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                        Originally posted by Blackdeath099
                        FAMAS or P90 Btw were not even allowed to have Airsoft in CA...

                        If you take an airsoft on the streets of Britain then theres a fairly good chance the armed police will turn up and start screaming at you. Most old people cant tell the difference and ring 999 anyway.

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                        • [Tex]Headinjury

                          #147
                          Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                          Originally posted by Walker
                          I think thats just an ethnocentric perspective, simply because they dont subscribe to what you define as a right then they are inferior?

                          I personally believe freedom of speech, and freedom of life and the right to a trial by a jury of your peers are much more important than the freedom to carry a gun, does that mean that i dont care as much as you about my rights?
                          Personally I dont think theres any right that is worth giving up without a fight. If the Constitution lists something as a right then, at least in this country, it is a right. It then goes on to say that everything else that isnt included is also a right. Therefore if I want to **** in a pink bucket, that is my right and no left wing liberal is going to take it away.

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                          • Ctay

                            #148
                            Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                            Freedom is not having to ask for permission...

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                            • imported_Walker

                              #149
                              Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                              Yes, but if you **** in a pink bucket in public, then the right wing conservatives who are tough on crime will consider it an indecent act (like showing that Jackson birds wrinkly tit) and fine you several hundred thousand dollars.

                              I also dont understand why so much credence is put into the constitution. If the US fundamentally stuck to the constitution then i think most people would not want to live there, the fact that it can be amended means that the US has become the relatively free nation it is today. So if any political party with power can change the constitution, why is it so important?

                              Britain has the Magna Carta, which is similar, apart from it hasnt been changed in nearly 800 years, and i regard the fact that a King's man cant take my horse very special, but i wouldnt fight for it.

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                              • Gamerguy X

                                #150
                                Re: Which gun would you love to have IRL?

                                Scar L or G36E

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