Jets Need To Go Away

[MG36CE Fan]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

Red Devil: correction, YOU need to go away, and as for the bombs? their 2,000 pound not 500 pound, plus if it takes so little skill to fly why are people that fly them crashing into the ground every 5 minutes?

[pever]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

ITs true there are some great pilots and kill by using skill...but common on... you guys know its not balanced...I know you guys practice and got your skills by learning your craft...but its to easy for you...

[Revoluti0n]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

I've found throughout history of FPS'ing, that this comment isn't really true.
More often then not, and usually when a game dies out, the truths come out, and one learns that the one really good player or clan, that dominated the game, did in fact, use hacks, cheats, and exploits.
Hey, dont take my comment the wrong way, im not disputing what you said, 100%. I do dispute it though. And im cool with whatever you feel, so long as your cool with my opinion. Its all good.

True that. I understand your point. But in BF2, everyone has cried exploit at people that ahve more experience with the game.

Someone that has 500+ hours over someone that has 25+ hours? The only difference between the 2 is that the guy with more time knows the map, knows what the weapons can do, knows where to hide, etc. That is what I was mostly refering to.

[Red Devil]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

It's not so much that I want jets to go away. It's that I want them to be balanced. The problem with achieving that is that (as someone posted above) is that increasing the ability of the IGLA's or adding mobile AA decreases the role of the choppers. Make the jets and choppers equal in destructability might fix that. Increasing the spawn times might also help.

Giving servers the option to have/not have aircraft/vehicles/whatever would go a long ways towards making BF2 agreeable to (almost) everyone.

And, no, I'm not going away.

[slidero]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

good luck with that

[Anomalov]

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I don't see why people have a problem with the AA. Anytime I hop in AA, I get at least 1 kill before I leave it or get snuck up on and shot in the face. If you think about it, it isn't completely unbalanced. The turrets on the USS Essex will hit with a lock on 95% of the time (at least for me). If you're on the other team, then you have better jets than the USMC and your pilots shouldn't have difficulty taking out the F-35B's. Hell, I even hit J-10's and F-18's with the Anti-Air, and it's near-impossible to hit them with Air-to-Air missiles. Perhaps I just get lucky when I'm in AA turrets.

[=WnK=COWBOY]

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I see your Point Red, at first when i saw this post i was about to explode, cause my passion is everything that can fly, but now reading all the other replies i really see your point. Id like to take the USI mod as a Reference, there is the "Allmighty Warthog" but since the Engineers got mobile Stinger they arent that Allmighty at all, same goes for every other Jet since the US got their Avanger. This is a perfect example how a Blanced game could look like, I fly always Support for the Warthog with my F16 and yes even as a good Pilot you have to bother all the time not only about a Mig at your six, no also about a Sneaky Engineer hiding somwhere in the sand just waiting to get you down.

Maybee we all will se a slightly difference with AF...tbh i doubt it but hope is the last that dies eh?

[Online1-0]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

sithdemon,

That's strange, when I lock on a plane with stingers it heads away from me as fast as it can and drops flares. If I wait for the flares to disappear the plane is gone too. That's when I jump out of the Stinger seat and high tail it for the nearest tree. The airplane shows up in 20 or 30 seconds and either drops a gift on my Stinger battery (destroying it) or, if it is a skilled pilot, takes the Stinger out with guns.

What did I do wrong?

Online1-0

[BigBadBob]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

here Red Devil, put on this flame retardant suit.

Actually jets should not go away, they just need to be better balanced. The F35 missile magnet is a horrible excuse for an aircraft (in Game) it should be replaced by F18's as they are more comparable to the J10.

18s won't be a challenge for you though. So it will still be imbalanced.

[SillySnake]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

It can get frustrating, when you are slaving away with your tank + your rifle, and you have something like a 2:1 KD, and these flyboys, who are barely working, getting 50:0!

However, keep in mind, thats either because A) No one is stopping them with the AA turrets, or vehicles on the map, or B) They have complete air superiority and no fighter planes of yours are getting up into the air to fight with them.

Try to keep this in mind,
SillySnake

[=WnK=COWBOY]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

It can get frustrating, when you are slaving away with your tank + your rifle, and you have something like a 2:1 KD, and these flyboys, who are barely working, getting 50:0!

However, keep in mind, thats either because A) No one is stopping them with the AA turrets, or vehicles on the map, or B) They have complete air superiority and no fighter planes of yours are getting up into the air to fight with them.

Try to keep this in mind,
SillySnake

AMEN!!!

[SillySnake]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

Good to have someone agreeing with me :laugh:

[12:oc7ock]

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Who's telling you that you can't take up flying?

[IAJTHOMAS]

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I beleive the problem regarding increasing AA and the effects on helicopters has been discussed before. What could happen is that armour on planes is reduced, with armour on choppers staying the same, and perhaps and increase in AA range so that it matches TV guided range. ATM though a jet can shoot me with a cannon out of AA even if I saw him first because despite seeing him visually I cannot get a lock at that range. THis can be a little frustrating to say the least, its hard enough staying alive in AA against a plane who is in range.

The problem is that planes lack a real counter measure, something that will make them at least somewhat wary of confronting it. For examples, tanks will avoid mines, as they will kill with one hit, similarly 2 c4 and they're toast. Nothing really puts a plane at a disadvantage, at the most they are equal terms with mobile AA and other planes (except with the j-10 issue) and static AA is really a death trap. Also, continuing my comarison with tanks, another way of racking up large amounts of kills while remainig relatively safe from gorund troops, they cannot dirrectly deal with their counter measures, if there is a mine the tanks can't just shoot it, the engineer has to get out and disarm it, maiking him vulnerable.

[Brindled]

Re: Jets Need To Go Away

i have had some amazing rounds since the patch, but yet i've had some discouraging ones too. like tonight i went 29/1 on kubra as mec (support kit for myself), and all i did was sit in the mobile aa at the northern point where it spawns. chopper, after chopper, after chopper, and many jets thrown in as well, although they were a lil harder to shoot down. it was very fun, but you should have seen the two maps preceding that one, lets just say i was close to the purple heart on one of them. i think the commander was after me. PARANOIA WILL DESTROY YA!