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  • <=BaD=>Chemical

    #46
    Re: US Intervention Mod Update

    Originally posted by MarkHawk
    Oh and I Like the current Heli- physics in BF2 but they stink if you use a joystick. Takes a lot of patiance to get choppers to hover if you have a joystick and throttle like the Saitek X52 (I love it but I want one in red)
    I was hopeful that this mod would not have the noob heli controls that BF2 has..
    Then there will be almost no point of playing your mod. What is the fun of simulating helicopter flying on buttons and mouse?... sounds rather idiotic.

    I hope most of your team members disagree with you and will make this a challenging mod like DC was.... For noob control and bad physics lovers I recomend POE, BF Vietman and BF2.

    There is a reason DC was the most popular mod for BF42.. and much of it was because of the challenge and fun of flying... which affects also a good balance between ground troops and airforces.

    Btw I like everything I've seen of this mod and the models look good... Please consider why DC was a success.. there were probably thousands of noobs complaining about
    how difficult it was to control aircrafts... still it was extremly popular... Noobs destroy games like BF2, EA is a very noob friendly company and listens to their whining all the time.. Everybody I know stopped playing Bf2 and are waiting for a non idiot proof mod. The public servers in my country are empty all the time..

    POE had the chance to be a DC like mod.. but they kept the stupid airplane/heli psysics BF Vietman offered on default. and btw I wonder why BF Vietnam and POE last so well.. huge success...hmmm

    good luck anyway.. :cry:

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    • jimbob

      #47
      Re: US Intervention Mod Update

      OMG if i hear one more person go on about the heli "physics" in DC i am going to throw up... the fact tht DC didnt even have a "real" physics engine blows this whole "DC had realistic chopper physics" arguement right out of the water... tht and having flown in a huey i can say without a doubt tht the chopper characteristics in DC were an absolute joke... the current system is a VAST improvement (and even more so over BF vietnam lol death circling any1 lol?) over the extremely experimental 'work with what we got' system incorporated into DC....

      DC IS GONE - get over it.


      hahaha in hindsight if you guys did manage to get the characteristics like DC you would be pleasing a hell of alot of whingers IMO

      it is my assumption tht people like above poster are just slow to adapt and are subsequently crappy about it...

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      • DoubleVee

        #48
        Re: US Intervention Mod Update

        I think BF2 Heli Physics would be a better choice...They are bases more on teamwork between the pilot and gunner...If you used DC-style physics, it would be almost impossible to launch a TV-guided missile successfully.

        Also, where did the HELLFIRE missiles go on the Apache?! Is it still WIP?

        p.s.: I saw Wolfi's Apache + Abrams screenshots and they both look stunnin'

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        • petemonster29

          #49
          Re: US Intervention Mod Update

          Heh.............I loved the apache Physics....a bit too slow atm in terms of top speed tho......I could actually strafe with the nose again..I love you Jarlief...this thing is a dream to fly ....who needs TV guided hellfires..........they use laser guidance IRL..TV guides are for TOWs.....like the USI cobra will have.

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          • wolfi

            #50
            Re: US Intervention Mod Update

            Dont get me wrong, i was a very good chopper pilot in DC and i want the physics back.
            We will have to wait what the community wants, that is it whats all about.

            Originally posted by DoubleVee
            Also, where did the HELLFIRE missiles go on the Apache?! Is it still WIP?
            As i said it were older pictures from the last week.
            The apache was ingame and i wanted to show the team some nice shots

            lol pete, TV for TOWs? arent they wire-guided? :p

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            • Rataboom

              #51
              Re: US Intervention Mod Update

              @Chemical
              You use the word noob quite a number of times. Noob, is an extremely defamatory word, comparible to words such as "***". It makes your post reek of elitism.

              DC's design made it easy for someone to "solo" play, and play well using this method. Not to say that team play ideals were unwelcome, as they played a large part in my clan days. But at the same time, one could hold his own. Many a time during a match, I would be left alone to defend a single flag, and would have no problem doing so.

              I believe this lead to much of DC's success. It was not just because of what some consider to challenging game mechanics.

              Edit- Hm. World filter. Well, the word rhymes with "maggot".

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              • imported_UH60BHPilot

                #52
                Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                Originally posted by jimbob
                DC IS GONE - get over it.
                That is a ridiculous statement. I still play DC quite frequently, as do 500+ other players that log onto DC every day.

                Originally posted by Miny Mo
                Edit- Hm. World filter. Well, the word rhymes with "maggot".
                Lmao.

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                • <=BaD=>Chemical

                  #53
                  Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                  Wow I dont know where too start..

                  1. wanting a car physics in a heli is a noob thing. You simply cant come
                  closer to flying a heli.. No you need auto hoover and other helping tools
                  too be able let your copilot to use his easy laser guided toys... I could hoover
                  very still in DC... I hear that you could not. I have used flight simulator and x-plane and because I was a good pilot in DC I was able fly easily those simulators... Dont give that crab that you have flown a real one and that its close to driving a car.

                  2. DC is not dead there are still thousand of players playing it online every night..

                  Check it your self.. and see its still the most popular mod.. :laugh:

                  "If you used DC-style physics, it would be almost impossible to launch a TV-guided missile successfully." you are soooo wrong.. or so BAD

                  Will this mod survive the noobs? POV is a good examble, lot of effort put into it but
                  really bad physics...



                  edit: No word filter on me... Noob, Noobbies, Noobidubdub, Noobers!! or DC physics..

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                  • DoubleVee

                    #54
                    Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                    Originally posted by <=BaD=>Chemical
                    Wow I dont know where too start..

                    1. wanting a car physics in a heli is a noob thing. You simply cant come
                    closer to flying a heli.. No you need auto hoover and other helping tools
                    too be able let your copilot to use his easy laser guided toys... I could hoover
                    very still in DC... I hear that you could not. I have used flight simulator and x-plane and because I was a good pilot in DC I was able fly easily those simulators... Dont give that crab that you have flown a real one and that its close to driving a car.

                    2. DC is not dead there are still thousand of players playing it online every night..

                    Check it your self.. and see its still the most popular mod.. :laugh:

                    "If you used DC-style physics, it would be almost impossible to launch a TV-guided missile successfully." you are soooo wrong.. or so BAD
                    I meant that DC is more of a 1-man/rambo-style flying where you really don't need a co-pilot to help you out...BF2 on the other hand, is more Teamwork based which I like :)

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                    • <=BaD=>Chemical

                      #55
                      Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                      Originally posted by DoubleVee
                      I meant that DC is more of a 1-man/rambo-style flying where you really don't need a co-pilot to help you out...BF2 on the other hand, is more Teamwork based which I like :)
                      I guess you didn't play DC much... You were maybe playing BF1942 because DC was too difficult.. I had co pilot all the time in DC.. and I loved
                      being a co pilot.. If I had a GOOD pilot that is...

                      But some people want no challenge.. :evil:

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                      • MarkHawk

                        #56
                        Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                        If I can do 9 foward flips followed by a Mctwist and pull out just in time to land a 32 point combo, then it's not "relistic or good" pyhsics at all. I'll update this later.

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                        • wolfi

                          #57
                          Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                          Originally posted by <=BaD=>Chemical
                          I could hoover
                          very still in DC... I hear that you could not.
                          Yeah i can do that too :P Thats why everyone loved flying with me.
                          But when it came to dogfights against other helos i lost in 90% of the fights lol
                          And im not a joystick guy :p

                          Originally posted by <=BaD=>Chemical
                          "If you used DC-style physics, it would be almost impossible to launch a TV-guided missile successfully." you are soooo wrong.. or so BAD
                          Thats true.

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                          • imported_UH60BHPilot

                            #58
                            Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                            Will this mod survive the noobs? POV is a good examble, lot of effort put into it but
                            really bad physics...
                            POV ? Name doesn't ring a bell. There is always time for tweaking later, who knows.

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                            • <=BaD=>Chemical

                              #59
                              Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                              Originally posted by UH60BHPilot
                              POV ? Name doesn't ring a bell. There is always time for tweaking later, who knows.
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                              • imported_UH60BHPilot

                                #60
                                Re: US Intervention Mod Update

                                Oh, I wasn't sure if you mis-spelled it or not. Had a feeling that's what you were talking about.

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