Desert Conflict Mod Update

[imported_Gaverty]

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:) im imressed your endeavour to proof that is stolen...munchies you must just grow up and it will be ok...we working hard at each parts and its very pleasant when someone take heart to proving that our work is just rip-off..
i dont know why im writing here its just wasting time we dont have to proof anything, but i know there is fans which appreciate our work and that enough...

[Phoenix187]

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How do we know you didn't just put lower LoD models with the origional model to make it look like it has a different wire?

In either case ya'll need to work on optimizing that model cause it looks like it has twice as many polies as the BF42 one.

[Clit_YeastHood]

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I guess thats the danger of attempting to re-create what has already been done, if you do it perfectly, theres no proof you didnt just cheat.

All the bitching is a bit much tho, i thought BF was mostly played by men, not by girls with handbags (meoooowww! )

IMO it does look incredibly like the old BF building, if it is not the work of Dcon, and you claim it is, then you have your integrity to answer to, not these forums.

If it is your work, good job. Its spot on.

[Nikko]

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Interesting... its almost as if the people that are bashing our statics (including the factory) didn't read my post at all. Perhaps you should read it first before you go off and waste your time and energy on this poinless debate?

This entire thing is a laugh. There are certain groups out there that are just so blindly against this mod and its development, that they will do and say ANYTHING to insult it and degrade it... almost as if it will effect our mod in some way. Carbon5 and USI mod are a couple of these groups. You will NEVER see anything even remotely positive about our mod posted from them, regardless of the quality of the product.

We know that we didn't take any models from BF1942, and we can prove it with ease, actually. The factory model is SUPPOSED to look like the BF1942 factory. That's the point, people. By saying it is a "ripoff," you're essentially giving us a pat on the back, my friends. So thanks for that, I suppose. We wanted to have that factory look almost identical, but with an interrior space. And yes, it does have more polygons... it has an interrior. If we need to prove that we did not port the model, we gladly WILL... -to someone who matters. If Electronic Arts has a representative contact us and request that we prove that it is not the same building (ported over), we will gladly reply with said proof in a professional and mature manner. You silly guys don't have to worry, because we know what we have done and what we have not done. What we have not done is port a SINGLE polygon from BF1942. What we have done is, well... exactly what we wanted to do. That is, create a factory that looks very similar, but has a twist to it. It is actually not that hard at ALL to replicate the statics from BF1942... they are not that complex. Anyone with ANY modelling skill could do exactly what we have done. It was not ported, and you guys should try putting time and energy into your respective projects instead of BLINDLY accusing another team of illegal action. We know you hate us for some reason, so we are not going to expect anything positive to ever escape your mouths/keyboards here.

Think a little bit before you post. You should have known that we can prove all of this in about 5 minutes. Will we waste our 5 minutes proving it to you? probably not. If you want to prove it, you can waste your own time. We will prove it to EA, with no problem at all, if they even care. Try to be a bit more mature, and worry about your OWN work. Thanks.

[Clit_YeastHood]

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Step AWAY from the victim mentality. put it down. CLEAR.

I can see your small arms renders are good, your AH64 longbow looks great too. A lot of work has gone into them, and its a success.

Im a USI tester, so you may assume im biased, but this doesnt mean I and other BF2 players cannot see decent modelling/skinning work when its presented, and i do. There are aspects of Dcon mod that kick arse, dont get me wrong, but im sure you can understand that if Dcon did port old bf42 statics to Dcon mod, and claim that it was their work, there would be complaints.

Getting angry about it makes me think 'the lady doest protest too much'

If its Dcon work through and through, you have no worries

[sito]

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Lookin great guys, keep up the good work. Would be a nice Xmas present to the community.

[Nikko]

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I truly do not have worries... it just gets under my skin when people complain about things in our mod just because of the fact that we're making something everyone knows that thousands want. I believe that is the only reason people get so upset. They know that we're guaranteed a large following, and it bothers them. Why do you think I am putting hundreds of hours into mapping for this mod? Simply because Desert Combat will die if it is not brought back, and I am VERY disappointed in BF2. That is it. Not for money, and certainly not for any sort of glory.

I want Desert Combat back. I'm sure there are a few out there that would like to be able to play it on this engine as well...

[icemagician296]

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hey smart guy mr nikko why you dissing my mod i made my post based on the pictures that i saw please do not insult my intelligence saying its diffrent models i know alot about 3d models ive been modding for nearly 4 years so dont try to impress anybody by dissing my mod which has existed far longer than yours and actually tries to capture the feel of the gulf war iraq never had t80 tanks i think you need to do better research on who to insult and on what vehicles iraq had :laugh:

[Doorstop[DCON]]

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Here is something very simple for all of you to add up. Knock off the nonsense.. keep the post constructive. No one should be accusing anyone of anything without first hand knowledge or proof. First of all.. Hoofer made more than a handful of africa house statics. And they are all different. Second of all I dont want to see anyone bashing anyones mod. No matter who you are. I dont care if your part of my mods team or anyone elses. It lowers the professionalism of the modding community and creates too much tension when there needs to be almost none. I dont care who is in competition with who. Deal with it and move on. Learn to ignore ignorance as I've had to with several people on this board. I'm fed up with the nonsense. If need be DCON will discontinue its news updates on tbf2. It really wont hurt us in the end because we have the community following to do it on our own if need be. I think you all need to reconsider how you are all treating this matter. There isnt any proof first of all. Of course i'm going to defend a team member but I will be the first to criticize them as well if they had done something wrong. I show no favorites as my friends know. What needs to be done is for all of you to relax and calm down and not jump to conclusions. Hoofer is a talented modeler. You need not knock him for his creations. They have been made to mimic the originals. Thats all he has done. Apparently too well. He's guilty of nothing and I'll support him as will the rest of the team. Some of you will go to any length to generate bad press about DCON because you maybe biased by your own mod or because you dont think anyone should try to attempt a DCOM mod for bf2. Sorry to break it to ya but first release is gonna be real similar to DCOM.. then you'll see some evolution into what it should have been and will be for the future. I think it necessary for the mods to do their jobs and they should be most aware of this thread and where it is going. So sad that others need to create controversy to attract attention away from us when its actually working against them. Its created more. Thanks to you all for your continued support be it purposefully or not..

EDIT: for some of you who doubt his skills or his abilities to create "Unique" content.. here are some views of a WIP that took him about 2 hrs to do. Plus my newest WIP on the bottom. Let the fans be the judge. Let the loyal community members of DCON decide whether we do or die. We do it for our fans.

[MAX3D2]

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As the LEAD Modeler for DCON, I have not seen any of our models being copied from other people's content. I think folks are forgetting that all of us in all the MOD groups are making this stuff for the FANS. Its for FUN!!! Some folks may have disagreements.. so be it..such as life... get over it. I cant wait to see and play all the MODS. Thats plain and simple. Just be nice and fair to each other... no name calling.. no spreading rumors.. thats just petty B.S. WE ALL SHOULD WORK TOGETHER TO HAVE MORE FUN!!! Life is too complex to make it even more complicated. SO LETS GET BUSY and make some KEWL sheeeit to play with. MAX3D2

[Nikko]

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hey smart guy mr nikko why you dissing my mod i made my post based on the pictures that i saw please do not insult my intelligence saying its diffrent models i know alot about 3d models ive been modding for nearly 4 years so dont try to impress anybody by dissing my mod which has existed far longer than yours and actually tries to capture the feel of the gulf war iraq never had t80 tanks i think you need to do better research on who to insult and on what vehicles iraq had :laugh:

That is HILARIOUS! When did I "dis" your mod, icemagician? Please point it out to me. By the way, that is one nice sentence there, bud!

[imported_H4wk]

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hey smart guy mr nikko why you dissing my mod i made my post based on the pictures that i saw please do not insult my intelligence saying its diffrent models i know alot about 3d models ive been modding for nearly 4 years so dont try to impress anybody by dissing my mod which has existed far longer than yours and actually tries to capture the feel of the gulf war iraq never had t80 tanks i think you need to do better research on who to insult and on what vehicles iraq had :laugh:

* no interpunction
* makes USI look like a bashing mod. I'm sure PBA doesn't want that
* So your mod existed longer than ours? Does that make you better?
* Nearly 4 years? I've been around for over 10 years. Does that make me better than you? (well in this case yes, looking at my list of skills compared to yours)
* your mod tries to capture the gulf war feel, ours want to bring Desert Combat back (wich has the best gulf war feel ever btw)

I know that USI has great models and skins. They have a professional look and feel. Though, the way you act right now makes USI look like a bunch of kids shouting at others saying that they're better than the others. (no offence to the team, just pointing at icemagician's childish behaviour)

Please reconsider your behaviour, might be in the benefit of your team

[DMC]

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Well said MAX3D2.

Guys, let's ease off the mod bashing. If the model has in fact been copied (I'm not saying it is) then I'm sure EA/DiCE will be contacting the right people at DCON themselves. This isn't anyone else's business really - argument will not improve the situation either way.

Can't we all just get along?

[imported_H4wk]

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i'm sure we can if the mindless bashing stops right here

[david2999]

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could somebody explain this picture?



to me it looks like DCON has ripped the africa building and made their own changes, but i could be wrong