I2o[G]uE TacT-X wrote..Frankly, at this point I have a right to be arrogant about that with the nonsense m4 keeps trying to say. Especially if he's going to even try accusing me of ruining a game I have no direct part of. That's just hilarious.
You don't have to be so arrogant about your opinion.
-
-
Zips wrote..
Yes, you and anyone like you is the reason valve made cs:s the way it is, the bitching about awps, the crying about shooting into walls, the WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR MY GUNS that created the retarded cs:s blackmarket, the inaudible soundlevels so people don't need to use sound to play anymore, the giant fucking hit boxes on the models so you don't need to AIM anymore, the recoil being non existent.
Oh, I ruin it? Please, enlighten me and the rest of the readers exactly how someone who posts news could possibly ruin a title that he does not attempt to influence in any way, shape, or form? I'm not like the vocal minority that is the "pro" scene who lashes out whenever something big OR small is changed that they do not like, and God help me if I ever am like that.
Until now, I have not been vocal about my disdain for anything CS related. But this is quite the eye sore, and I'm NOT just talking about graphics.
You are the first, and I presume, ONLY person who even tried to say that. No, you're wrong. It's really as simple as that.
All of these are products of people like you, the people who play a new game every month, if the game isn't easy for people like you then you simply don't play it.
You are the type of person that forces game developers to make a product with such an easy gameplay that to people who play games for a challenge are forced to play a game made for infants or nothing at all.
If you don't see it already, you were fired from your position of a mod on steampowered because of your nazilike stance on anything you say or do, probably why your fiancee left you.
So tell me, do you like TFC or TF2 better? Aside from graphics, which would be your preference and why?Comment
-
m4elite wrote..
Heh, so that means their attempt failed 3 times? And this current 4th attempt isn't making much of a hard-try, either.
No, this beta is NOT the product of 2 years work, the first csp project was announced 1~ year ago, since then 3 different teams have started/stopped work on the mod ...
If they'd fix the crap in Source, I'd be happy with that. 1.6 on Source would be nice, but it's pretty near impossible to pull off successfully.Comment
-
Zips wrote..
Yeah, because I said SHAUN ZIPPAY RUINED CS:S.
Frankly, at this point I have a right to be arrogant about that with the nonsense m4 keeps trying to say. Especially if he's going to even try accusing me of ruining a game I have no direct part of. That's just hilarious.
It's a generalization you dolt, when a large group of whiners whine, Yes, you are the reason why the game is like it is.DevgruSeal H.E wrote..
No, it means three different coding teams have joined and left the project.
Heh, so that means their attempt failed 3 times? And this current 4th attempt isn't making much of a hard-try, either.
If they'd fix the crap in Source, I'd be happy with that. 1.6 on Source would be nice, but it's pretty near impossible to pull off successfully.
It does not mean the same team got it done on the fourth try.Comment
-
m4elite wrote..
I just told you, that I have not voiced my concern one way or the other for any of these updates. If you're good, you will adapt to any of these changes made. If you aren't, then you sit and complain and yell obscenities at your screen as tends to be the case.
Yes, you and anyone like you is the reason valve made cs:s the way it is, the bitching about awps, the crying about shooting into walls, the WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR MY GUNS that created the retarded cs:s blackmarket, the inaudible soundlevels so people don't need to use sound to play anymore, the giant fucking hit boxes on the models so you don't need to AIM anymore, the recoil being non existent.
The hit boxes conform to the size of the player models. Concrete walls cannot be penetrated, sort of like real life. Wooden objects can be. The AWP changes were only for fixing exploits that were not intended to ever be in the game. The CSS market was dead months ago, and it was a server side option, so it's not like it was forced upon you permanently. The recoil is near identical.
So, what were you saying again?All of these are products of people like you, the people who play a new game every month, if the game isn't easy for people like you then you simply don't play it.
Huh? What does any of this have to do with anything? Seriously, grasping for straws there. And if you ever try and attack anything about my personal life again, I will permanently ban you. No questions asked, you're gone.
You are the type of person that forces game developers to make a product with such an easy gameplay that to people who play games for a challenge are forced to play a game made for infants or nothing at all.
If you don't see it already, you were fired from your position of a mod on steampowered because of your nazilike stance on anything you say or do, probably why your fiancee left you.
I've played CS and CSS for years and have dealt with whatever changes the devs decided to make, I really don't get what you're trying to even say any more.So tell me, do you like TFC or TF2 better? Aside from graphics, which would be your preference and why?
TF2 - It's an evolution of an already great game (TFC and QTF).m4elite wrote..
If you're going to use my name, use it correctly. It's only on the site and in the emails I responded to you with. Furthermore, I already addressed this matter of a "large group of whiners." The only ones doing the whining in the CS community are those who really dislike having to adapt to change after years of the same, and frankly, stagnant methods of playing a map. Adjust, or be left behind.
Yeah, because I said SHAUN ZIPPAY RUINED CS:S.
It's a generalization you dolt, when a large group of whiners whine, Yes, you are the reason why the game is like it is.Comment
-
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHTComment
-
Comment
-
i enjoying playing both games. but i play more hrs on 1.6. i do play source at random times. i'm just not a fan of the valve re-made maps. i like the 1.6 maps and how things are place. valve's changed to the map never really caught my interest. maybe it's just me. but hey, don't let my opinion manipulate how you think of it. i just source with 1.6 maps placing thats all =D nothing more.Comment
-
Comment
-
Just my 2 cents:
It seems you have Zips (Pro-Source) and m4 (Anti-Source) which are opposite ends of the spectrum. Me, orioN former quasi-pro player and CSN writer, well I haven't played in at least 1 1/2 years now (Actual estimate, not a few days but claiming its a year).
I kind of agree with both of you... why?
Zips, I agree with you that source should be its own game and if you want 1.6, then go play 1.6. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Thats like me saying a Ford Focus sucks because a lambo will burn it any day. However, you can't possibly compare the two, much like source/1.6
m4, I agree with you because, believe it or not, Source was initially supposed to be 1.6 with cosmetic improvements. CS2 was supposed to be exploration into new grounds/gameplay/etc. However, as we can see now 1.6 and Source share not too much in common other than weapon names and general concept. The feel of the game is different, patterns, maneuverability, nades, sprays, animations, etc. Point being, its a different game.
With that little rant stated, this community will never win. You have pompous competitive players (much like I used to be) that are too afraid of change, but at the same time you have some people who are claiming 1.6 is a thing of the past and we should just get used to it. While that may be true, a lot of us still like 1.6, and we wouldn't mind seeing the 1.6 feel with some nice graphics.
As far as THIS mod goes. I stopped playing CS around the time this mod was announced, and I'm shocked that I've been gone for as long as I have, and so far everything I've read states that this mod is worthless. Step in the right direction? Sure, but god-awfully executed, they better improve these "steps" into leaps before this mod is anything worthwhile.Comment
-
The project does seem to aim to bring 1.6 to the Source engine (with a couple CSS features included) more than trying to create the perfect competitive CS game. Still, I hope they're successful. I'd love to see competition using those clean maps but with the improved graphics.
Playing CSS with those maps would solve 80% of my complaints with CSS. Maybe people would play de_inferno again. (i love that map)Comment
-
I just want the skilled gameplay of 1.6 on source.
Source is, as any long time cs player will tell you, nub. Everything was nerfed, we all know that.Comment
-
The only way to shut every one is to have Valve create 2 kinds of CS:S, 1 would be the regular CS:S with CS:S gameplay, and the other would be CS:S with 1.6 gameplay.
m4elite -- You need to calm your ass down and not take yourself any lower than you already are, Zips gave you some good points on why CS:S should be CS:S and if you want vanilla CS then go back to 1.6, if you didn't like it then no need to flap your mouth with the name calling, don't start shit if your opinion differs from others.
The CSP team still have a long way to go in terms of finishing this project, it is in no way shape or form done, you know it, and the thousands of others who play this god damn game know it.Comment
-
Oh, the drama.
I'll play CSP when it's fixed, no sooner.Comment
-
what are we talking about here, Zips posted news about this release (what ever tag its got) having major bugs.. and thats true.. he might even have posted that it sux on his own comments.. well he has the right to do so..
and m4elite shame on you for that under the belt punchComment
Comment