CS 1.6 Ads in the Testing Stages

[Zom-B]

snkcube wrote..

Eh, I bet people will forget about the ads. It's called adaptation.

Living with noisy neighbours is adaption. Ruining an 8 year old game with advertisements is utterly revolting.

[omgomgz]

They're not that freakin' bad, stop whining.

[Zom-B]

omgomgz wrote..

They're not that freakin' bad, stop whining.

Normally i'd reply in a more professional manner, but fuck you. Huge white banners the size of a spawn area are very bad.

[Impute]

Well, If I didnt know better they are just modifying the maps right?



So cant you back up the current default maps, rename them like de_dust2_original and bingo no ads. Or am I mistaken?



Because I cannot see how they plan to add Ad's into custom made maps.

[wolfman*]

Thats is so FUGLY, cant they make them look as if they were real world adverts rather than looking like a valve-fan-boy spray. they make billboards, posters or even graffiti as long as if fits the enviroment your in. Anyway this is only affecting Official maps isnt it, cos i do prefer custom maps anyway.

[Scanner]

Edited by [user="23037"] @ [time="1171502480"]

Wow, I'm with the guy earlier who thought that Valve would at least try to make the ads inobtrusive, or at least fit into a spot where you might reasonably expect there to be an advertisement already.



Wrong.



Could there be any more blatant demonstration than the screenshots provided of the utter disregard Valve has for the sensibilities of their player base? Any stronger evidence of Valve's total devotion to new revenue streams at the expense of customers that have already given Valve money to play the game? Any clearer sign that Valve's definition of a good game is money in their pockets instead of immersive gameplay that garners devotion from their fans?



Please, please, tell me that this will be a server-side or client-side option that can be enabled or disabled? If not, please, please, tell me that there will be plugins that strip away these garish, unthematic, unsightly blemishes.



People, what's happening here is that we're being charged for the same game twice. Once when we thought we were buying the game, and again with this daily assault on our eyes for which they and they alone reap the benefit. To those who say this is overreaction, will you wait until the next game you buy suddenly ups and destroys the whole experience and immersiveness to complain? Good luck--by then it will be precedent, and your pleas will fall on deaf ears.



I would never have bought 1.6 if it had advertisements in it from day one, but Valve feels it's ok to wait until they have my money safely in hand before they throw in the ads. This sort of business tactic is tantamount to bait-and-switch, and it's shameful!



Let this serve as a warning to anyone who purchases a game via Steam! Your game does not live on your hard drive, but on Valve's servers, and its content is dynamic. Make no mistake, what you are seeing now with 1.6 is what will happen to the other Steam games that you currently enjoy. If Valve wishes to pursue this course, they will soon observe distrust of all Steam games.

[icemanz-alb]

Scanner wrote..

Wow, I'm with the guy earlier who thought that Valve would at least try to make the ads inobtrusive, or at least fit into a spot where you might reasonably expect there to be an advertisement already.



Wrong.



Could there be any more blatant demonstration than the screenshots provided of the utter disregard Valve has for the sensibilities of their player base? Any stronger evidence of Valve's total devotion to new revenue streams at the expense of customers that have already given Valve money to play the game? Any clearer sign that Valve's definition of a good game is money in their pockets instead of immersive gameplay that garners devotion from their fans?



Please, please, tell me that this will be a server-side or client-side option that can be enabled or disabled? If not, please, please, tell me that there will be plug-ins that strip away these garish, unthematic, unsightly blemishes.



People, what's happening here is that we're being charged for the same game twice. Once when we thought we were buying the game, and again with this daily assault on our eyes for which they and they alone reap the benefit. To those who say this is overreaction, will you wait until the next game you buy suddenly ups and destroys the whole experience and immersiveness to complain? Good luck--by then it will be precedent, and your pleas will fall on deaf ears.



I would never have bought 1.6 if it had advertisements in it from day one, but Valve feels it's OK to wait until they have my money safely in hand before they throw in the ads. This sort of business tactic is tantamount to bait-and-switch, and it's shameful!



Let this serve as a warning to anyone who purchases a game via Steam! Your game does not live on your hard drive, but on Valve's servers, and its content is dynamic. Make no mistake, what you are seeing now with 1.6 is what will happen to the other Steam games that you currently enjoy. If Valve wishes to pursue this course, they will soon observe distrust of all Steam games.

I wanna give you a really big hug.

[Thortok2000]

I would never have bought 1.6 if it had advertisements in it from day one, but Valve feels it's ok to wait until they have my money safely in hand before they throw in the ads. This sort of business tactic is tantamount to bait-and-switch, and it's shameful!

Nothing but truth. Absolutely, positively, nothing at all except truth, in this statement.



Valve needs a swift kick in the balls for this one. I've liked some of Valve's decisions, I've disliked some, but this draws the line. This decision is absolutely hated.



I'm just waiting for any of the allegedly 'violent' teenagers out there, violent because of this game, to target Valve with their 'violence', as Valve itself becomes the target of their animosity, solely due to this change.



Wouldn't that be ironic, if the game which supposedly makes teens violent, had that violence targeted at the makers of the game? That would be highly ironic indeed.



The moment this touches 1.6 for good, I'm never playing it again. The moment this touches any game, I'm never playing it again. Period.



It's bad enough that the things that are free have ads in them (such as this site). Things I pay for, should not. Things I've already paid for should definitely not.

[Diamond Dust]

I still see no logic in putting ads into a game that has already been paid for. Make an ad cs and release it at discount or for free, but forcing ads on people just isn't right. Although I do see servers just running custom maps with no ads. Anyway I don't play 1.6 (those screen shots reminded me why, i'm no graphic whore but my god there isn't one smooth surface I hadn't thought about polygons in a while) but I do feel this isn't right, even though what do they have to loose by pissing off people that have played the same game for ages.

[Shadow]

What I don't understand is, why can't the user base just create custom maps like "de_dustr" or something that is essentially a complete copy of the old map, with a different name? These "copies" would be used as the new de facto standards, and since they wouldn't be recognized by the valve servers, they wouldn't have the ads. Simple. Or am I missing something? The only problem I can forsee is perhaps the original author won't consent to this or something (in which case, their name can be left on the message that pops up for the map info to give them credit).



Or perhaps the ads are built into the textures? I doubt it, though; we'd be seeing ads every two inches if that were the case.



Anyway, my point is, if these are just sprites, there's no way that this can possibly avoid being hacked.



On another note, I want to agree with peagle. It would be so much better if they would just take advantage of all the OBVIOUS advertising areas that aren't horribly ugly. Why not just replace pop-dog with coke or something? Hell, I wouldn't mind it if you had fucking PORTAL Cola or something.

[pistachio]

Wow ads, great. Too bad it looks like a phony piece of shit. It doesn't even try to blend in with the map. Its like slapping an ugly bumper sticker on a nice car. Why wreck it?

[Zips]

Ahem... maybe I should bold, italic, underline, and make the word BETA flash. Because there's no real saying how the non-BETA (final) ads will look just yet.

appended @ [time="1171512862"]

Hm, this news was apparently submitted by tonjohn before I got it up here. Thanks tonjohn, didn't see you submitted it until now though.

[omgomgz]

Edited by [user="381418"] @ [time="1171513164"]

Thortok2000 wrote..

The moment this touches 1.6 for good, I'm never playing it again. The moment this touches any game, I'm never playing it again. Period.

Sounds like what people said when 1.6 was released..



..and 1.5



..and 1.4



But you sure do make a convincing threat!

Zom-B wrote..

Normally i'd reply in a more professional manner, but fuck you. Huge white banners the size of a spawn area are very bad.

Wow and I thought you were a kid.

[WooFerPPK]

Edited by [user="16650"] @ [time="1171514160"]

Zips wrote..

Ahem... maybe I should bold, italic, underline, and make the word BETA flash. Because there's no real saying how the non-BETA (final) ads will look just yet.

i am willing to bet the ads are not going to move from where they are after the beta or change, and at least from the pictures they do look very poorly placed.



http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9561/aztecfv0.jpg

just look at this picture, does it suit the level at all? did they even attempt at trying to make it fit in? and the scoreboard thing also looks very annoying. bomb site B? come on, thats a very intense area and there should not be any unnecessary contrasting distractions in that area.



but why do i care anyways i have not played 1.6 since css came out, so as long as they don't infect anything else I'm fine with these horrible ads.

[Zips]

WooFerPPK wrote..

i am willing to bet the ads are not going to move from where they are after the beta or change, and at least from the pictures they do look very poorly placed.



http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9561/aztecfv0.jpg

just look at this picture, does it suit the level at all? did they even attempt at trying to make it fit in? and the scoreboard thing also looks very annoying. bomb site B? come on, thats a very intense area and there should not be any unnecessary contrasting distractions in that area.

Zips wrote..

Ahem... maybe I should bold, italic, underline, and make the word BETA flash. Because there's no real saying how the non-BETA (final) ads will look just yet.