Steam v3.0

[RavenGT]

Valve has numerous departments that are responsible for different products. So please, stop fucking saying that they should be working on DOD:S and shit. Don't bash Valve for things that you're not quite educated in.

[lollerblades]

[Grimbal]

Edited by [user="5847"] @ [time="1128267030"]

Right god damn you people whinning like little bitches, grow up ffs!, If steam was such a waste of space other game developers wouldn't be thinking of taking the root to steam to sell there games, all it is is a online purchase system which included imformation about up and coming games,updates, and you all whine and bitch about how bad valve have done you wrong..., jesus christ they didnt have to release VAC2 they could let you be playing hack city, so dont say valve hasnt done sh*t for you guyz.

Sure sometime's updates are slow but things take time remember what steam was like first time it started it fell apart everything is trial and error (kind of like with women lol).

Steam is the best thing that could of happened to the online gaming industry or the gaming industry in general without a doubt. Something somewhere always needs a leader to change the course of the future. And valve and steam is just that. btw thanks for the overhaul valve you dont have to do it. But cheers for taking your time to do such a update. cheers Grim. btw some of you guyz wanna learn manner's.

[Que_?]

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

I'm curious... how many updates have been released via Steam to date? I'm guessing it's got to be at least 50, and probably even more than that. Bring on those patches! Boy, I'd sure love to have to go find a mirror and download a patch every friggin' week because the auto-download wasn't built into the system. Take away functionality and ease, please, and replace it with the old way of doing things, because I can't handle change! Bring back the flock of online cheaters too! My computer can't possibly handle dedicating 10 megs of RAM to Steam! I only have half a gig or more to work with! And while you're at it, don't tell me anything about what you're doing, because that might make me more informed and have to click a "close" button once every week or two! Steam is bloated and takes a couple extra hundred megs of precious HD space on my mere 200 gig hard drive. And now you want to upgrade it with even more functionality to make sorting and acquiring new free mods even easier?! How dare you VALVe!

How long has HL2(Steam) been out and there has been how many updates? I remember when a game use to come out that maybe in a year or so there would be ONE(1) update. That would be it.



Why are there so many updates? Why are there so many recalled updates? Why do I see after an update another update to fix the last update?

[thepingofdeath]

Urban Terror wrote..

I don't like needing to start a program before being able to play a game I payed for, view any "update news" or advertisements for other games, then choose the game I want to play among other games that cost money and that I don't want to have anything to do with, and all the while have a program in the background using up RAM that could be used for the game I want to play. Steam is no better than Gamespy Arcade, and I HATE Gamespy Arcade.



EDIT:

Peagle, cutting out the middle man only meant more profits for Valve. Half Life 2 cost just as much on Steam than it did at stores. And I wouldn't expect to pay more than 20 dollars for a HL2 mod with only 4 maps, if even that. So, they're raking in more money, but it doesn't show because customer support is still terrible and updates are slow.

last time i checked you could create a desktop shortcut.

[xlokix]

Hey guys believe it or not, people have their own opinions about Steam! If you're having a bug-free Steam then congratulations, because some people aren't. Telling us to shut up and to get some manners is in return showing your lack of manners.

[Xephik]

Que_? wrote..

How long has HL2(Steam) been out and there has been how many updates? I remember when a game use to come out that maybe in a year or so there would be ONE(1) update. That would be it.



Why are there so many updates? Why are there so many recalled updates? Why do I see after an update another update to fix the last update?

At least theres updates at all.

[kerosine99]

Que_? are you saying prefer it when game companies don't support their products with updates and bug fixes?

[Zips]

kerosine99 wrote..

Que_? are you saying prefer it when game companies don't support their products with updates and bug fixes?

Don't forget the free content and extreme support for 3rd party mods.

[xlokix]

If Valve can release an update once every week, why thoroughly test their updates? That's the problem. Valve doesn't have the resources to test out every little update as if it were a major patch.



Valve's trying to keep their promise of updating every week or two, while an update every month that's solid would be good enough for me.

[V.C. Sniper]

SWEET!!!! Steam V3.0 WILL r0x0rZ !!! w00t!!!

[Dugsta]

azz0r wrote..

What bugs?

In the mods I mean, didn't mean anything specifically, just rather they concentrated on development of the games themselves rather than the client you use to launch them. In my opinion only of course.

[Nathan D.]

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

Haha, there are some seriously disaffected people around here, lol. We may be spending most of our time talking about Day of Defeat here lately, but it still sounds just like the CSN I've always known, haha.



I'm curious... how many updates have been released via Steam to date? I'm guessing it's got to be at least 50, and probably even more than that. Bring on those patches! Boy, I'd sure love to have to go find a mirror and download a patch every friggin' week because the auto-download wasn't built into the system. Take away functionality and ease, please, and replace it with the old way of doing things, because I can't handle change! Bring back the flock of online cheaters too! My computer can't possibly handle dedicating 10 megs of RAM to Steam! I only have half a gig or more to work with! And while you're at it, don't tell me anything about what you're doing, because that might make me more informed and have to click a "close" button once every week or two! Steam is bloated and takes a couple extra hundred megs of precious HD space on my mere 200 gig hard drive. And now you want to upgrade it with even more functionality to make sorting and acquiring new free mods even easier?! How dare you VALVe!



Seriously... it's just funny listening to these people. :)



...but it kind of hurts my head sometimes to try to ponder what the hell they're thinking when they make their pathetic, baseless "I'm the victim of the evil corporation that doesn't do just as I like while I post about it on a fan site" complaints. Ah well, it's CSN -- could we really expect any different? :)

Oh my goodness. I bow to you nighthawk for your impeccable accuracy and honesty of this post. This is the most interesting thing I've ever heard anyone say in all of these years of talk and flaming of Steam and Half-Life gaming in general.

[-:Nighthawk:-]

Thanks Nathan. :)



Dugsta, it's understandable you'd like focus to be given to their mods. That's a perfectly legitimate perspective. The problem is simply that they are focusing on bug fixes for the mods. And on new levels. And on Steam. Different people at VALVe specialize in different areas.



A guy who's great at developing P2P network code is a guy you want working on Steam, not on trying to do bug fixes in CS:S or making new player models for CS:S or designing new maps for DOD:S.



The point is, they are working on many of the things that people want them to be working on. Just development for different areas takes time, and just because the guy(s) working on Steam are going to be releasing their work here pretty soon does not mean that VALVe hasn't been working on anything else.

[entRo]

How dare they fix their vending machine and not CS:S!! WTFFF



You guys are pretty dumb. xlokix, what bugs are you having with Steam? Oddly enough, we all have the same Steam, so I'm willing to bet whatever bugs you claim to have, you caused. Many, and most of Valve's updates don't cause problems, as they're small fixes or tweaks, and that's a good thing.



Like someone else said, BF2 would be absolutely wonderful if it used Steam. Notice that Dice rolled out a major patch for BF2, and then had to recall it, and now we've been waiting for months for a new one? All of that probably would have been done within a month of BF2's launch had Steam been used. My only gripe with Steam is the weird places it pops up windows for me (half on-screen, half off) but that's hardly anything to bitch about and want to return to the shitty days of finding patch mirrors.