Shielding CS:S

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  • spartianII

    #196
    where is the poll?



    p.s. keep it BUT change it. somthing like "force feedback" when you get hit so its hard to control

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    • D of the O J

      #197
      Would everyone agree that making the shield slower, more expensive, and destructible a better reason to keep it? Keep it.

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      • Bruce Willis

        #198
        At this point, I think valve should be accepting more ideas than they reject. Leave the shield in source, we'll see how it plays there then decide whether or not to boot it.

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        • TechnoPhobia

          #199
          Edited by [user="78373"] @ [time="1088993377"]

          CS: Source is the perfect opportunity to prove that the shield really can make a better game. Even though I don't know the HL2 engine inside out, i do believe it will handle a measly shield. But the shield as it is in 1.6 and CZ does not work at all.



          Here's my list of things I urge VALVe to implement to the shield.
            » #1: You should be able to penetrate it. Powerful guns such as rifles, machineguns and snipers should damage it, leaving bulks that allow bullets to damage the shield bearer.



            » #2: A damaged shield should absorb some damage, much like a crate or a wall.



            » #3: Shotguns should rip through the shield if fired at close range. A large hole or crack should be left where the damage was applied.



            » #4: Price it right, so that it will be a viable option for eco-rounds.



            » #5: Make movement a bit slower. Assault rifle speed should be all right.



            » #6: Lower the base accuracy on the pistol, but not the recoil behaviour to force the shield bearer to enter close quarter battle.



            » #7: Make the shield hitbox very accurate, so that you can shoot the feet of the shield bearer.



            » #8: Place the shield on the same side, regardless of the cl_righthand command. A shield should absorb damage where it is, even if it's "opened" by the bearer.



            » #9: A shield dropped on the ground should be damageable.



            » #10: Grenade blasts should damage the shield bearer only if it's lobbed behind. Flash bang effects should also be reduced by the shield.
          I think that the shield should be an important part of the CT arsenal, otherwise, it will end up like the nightvision goggles and such. Terrorists will have to use shotguns to counter this. This would solve the problem of the shotguns not being used.



          In clan play and public play alike, the shield bearer should be the first man going in, playing a key role in a rush. The terrorists will have to use the shotguns to breach doors and enter rooms.



          The shield could be a wonderful addition to Counter-Strike, making it closer to real world combat. And it's up to VALVe to decide wether they want to make the shield what it could be.



          PS! I really hope someone from VALVe reads this. I really do believe it will improve the entire game.

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          • K*I*A

            #200
            Thats easy,drop it like fps dropping in cs with ati gpu.

            Why should you guys use any more time on something you STILL haven't been able to complete?

            The shield in it self is a good ide,but you guys just can't hack it

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            • AceR

              #201
              This is a good chance to boot nightvision!

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              • [EvOL]Lt.Slayer

                #202
                leave it in.

                its more realistic with it in. if you do not like it then do not use it. Also the server admins can disable it if they wish. the shield is a weapon used by tactical forces. if its used today in the real world then leave it in.

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                • StrikeZero

                  #203
                  i think you should remove it,

                  however if your going to keep it,

                  at least give the T's something to fight back with

                  say? make the shield breakable or something

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                  • oReiLLZ

                    #204
                    I wouldn't use realism as part the shield's defence, but I'd still like to see it left in. It needs to be toned down, for sure, but it adds a nice layer of strategy into the mix.



                    Plus you know when those kickass Source physics get their collective groove on, it'll look really cool to see bullets bounce off the shield.

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                    • thebadchopper

                      #205
                      Oh My God... If as you say, "no-one is using it" like you are, why worry about getting it booted? not like it actually hurts you inside. Do you cry at night because of the shield?



                      I bet your just a person who is ALWAYS terrorist and has a problem with the Ct's being invulnerable when they have a shield. If you ask me, people who are always terrorist need to go see a councilor. Leave the damn shield. You ALWAYS see it being used on 32 player servers OR clan wars, they are a integral part of strategy to them, which in wars is what CS is about.



                      Leave it, I can handle the health bar Idea, not the foot one?.. (why if you had a shield would you allow your foot to be shot) KEEP REALISM, the thing that made Counter-Strike the game it is today.



                      CHOPPER

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                      • mdk30

                        #206
                        The shield has always been and continues to be one big bug in the game. There's still hitbox issues with it and of course the quick buy bug that allows you to get multiple primary weapons or a primary weapon and a shield, so its obvious to me after all this time they still can't fix the damn thing. I say take it out. With all the time they've wasted trying to implement it so far I think they could have fixed a lot of bigger and more important things in the game. Spend the time on making CS better with what's currently there, fix the hitboxes, in-game voice chat quality, anything, just drop the shield!

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                        • Fryrice

                          #207
                          if they decide to keep the shield in the new cs updates/source, then ts should have a special thing aswell.. i think suicidal bombing packs should be a nice addition..

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                          • FL!P

                            #208
                            Meh, scrap it. Some of you won't let go of it and urge them to keep working to make it balanced, but they've been doing it forever.. I've seen a few people mention female models. Why the hell aren't there any yet? There's better model replacements than the shield. Molotovs, rocket launchers, all that stuff. Sure, it sounds gay, and probably would be, but why isn't Valve at least TRYING this stuff out? The shield is ridiculous, and they tried that. ):

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                            • XanMas

                              #209
                              thebadchopper wrote..

                              Oh My God... If as you say, "no-one is using it" like you are, why worry about getting it booted? not like it actually hurts you inside. Do you cry at night because of the shield?



                              I bet your just a person who is ALWAYS terrorist and has a problem with the Ct's being invulnerable when they have a shield. If you ask me, people who are always terrorist need to go see a councilor. Leave the damn shield. You ALWAYS see it being used on 32 player servers OR clan wars, they are a integral part of strategy to them, which in wars is what CS is about.



                              Leave it, I can handle the health bar Idea, not the foot one?.. (why if you had a shield would you allow your foot to be shot) KEEP REALISM, the thing that made Counter-Strike the game it is today.



                              CHOPPER
                              Yes, many a night I cry my self because of the addition of the shield

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                              • Tuxedo_Penguin

                                #210
                                We need a poll...

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