Shielding CS:S

[MURcarnage]

The shield is good. I say keep it even though it's very cheap (balancing wise)..some suggestions are...



-To REDUCE the damage of the bullets instead of block it all

-Make it so the glass is destroyable and/or a headshot kill.

-Make it so the shield acts as armor too, and has hit points. When the shield is destroyed/useless, the player just has their pistol.

-Cost should be increased as well.

-Limit the number of how many can be purchased at a time. 1/4 of the team, 1/2 of the team, etc.



And that's all I could think about right now..

[I2o[G]uE TacT-X]

MURcarnage wrote..

The shield is good. I say keep it even though it's very cheap (balancing wise)..some suggestions are...



-To REDUCE the damage of the bullets instead of block it all

-Make it so the glass is destroyable and/or a headshot kill.

-Make it so the shield acts as armor too, and has hit points. When the shield is destroyed/useless, the player just has their pistol.

-Cost should be increased as well.

-Limit the number of how many can be purchased at a time. 1/4 of the team, 1/2 of the team, etc.



And that's all I could think about right now..

Giving the shield health would be pointless. Not many people use the shield, anyways. The cost is fine, but the glass should be destroyable.

[BooGs]

The shield sucks, there is a reason it isn't used in leagues and competitive play. When I see somebody with a shield I either think noob, or somebody trying to be funny. Don't keep an aspect in the game that makes somebody laugh at how stupid it is every time they see it.

[Scarface1337]

remove that pos as fast as possible

[HitmanCodename48]

I think the dildo knife replacement should become the standard knife.

[zazenXhagakure]

I know the shield is often used to counter awpers, and I was just thinking about much I hate the awp...But I had an idea. OK, the awp will kill even if you dont make a headshot/neckshot. With the scout you need to be more accurate to make one shot kills, but it can be done. Think about the pump shotty. Its kinda like the scout. You have to make a fairly accurate shot to kill in one shot. How about we make a very powerful shotgun which would be like an...awp-shotty. If at close range you could make a one hit kill, even if you can't aim for Sh1T. Wow, that sounds alot like the awp doesnt it? It would make you walk much slower, like the awp. Maybe like a double 40-inch barrel 8 gauge.

[Bokuho]

Ooh I know. Make it so that The TMP, P90, P228, Mac10, M3 shotgun and UMP an pierce the shield somewhat. That way you'd be balancing out the shield and also making those guns more widely accpeted and used more often. Don't let the XM1014 ('auto-shotty') get round it though, that weapon already gets enough use on public servers, and it'd get really stupid if that was made even better. Maybe make it so that the Scout can get through it slightly too, to help promote the Scout over the AW/M. Forget the ammo each weapon is firing, forget whether normal weapon power, forget realism, just let the under-used weapons penetrate the shield a bit.



See, I'm thinking, maybe the shield wouldn't be so bad if it could b used to make the less-used weapons more useful. I myself already use the TMP, Mac10, P90, P228, Scout, and M3 anyway, but it'd be cool if they got used more widely by others too. Otherwise, why bother having them in the game if only a few people (e.g. me) use them? Think about it. As it is now, why'd anyone choose to buy a UMP in the middle of a clan match? They wouldn't nobody does that. But let's say the UMP could penetrate the shield, and the other team was using shields often. Maybe people would then start using the UMP, and then it wouldn't be a waste-of-loading-tme weapon.

[smdlvt]

Take the shield out!

[(CloWn-(o)f-|HeLL]

All you need to do is add something alike for the terrorist. They got nothing as protection... why not a garbage cap or a car door :P



Just make it even for both sides. And once and for all patch the bugs.

And why not adding the Mac and Tmp like "D of the O J" said, I think it's a fine idea.



Well go as you like anyway, it's one opinion over millions. Leave it or scrap it... either way, it wont make me cry.

[Gpig]

I think perhaps I should put my comments to page at like 200 instead of never switching.



Eh, I just got back from 4th of July weekend so I'm just going to assume everyone has already discussed all the strategical flaws with the shield in it's current states even if the bugs were to be fixed in CS:S.



Take it out preferably or make it smaller, damageable, penetrable, or whatever the hell you want to make it so you don't have one shielder standing there drawing 4 rushing t's fire while 2 hiding ct's mow them down.

[L34dH34d]

I say either remove it or take out the bugs, and you could fit in hitting the leg area and window for Head Shots, because then they have something to shoot at and can be killed not easily but good enough if so make the window smaller or bigger

[D of the O J]

I think (Edit:most of the people) the people saying nay to the shields inclusion are:



A) Too close-minded to accept change into their precious CS



and



B) Too stupid to be able to formulate strategies to kill the shielders.



I beg Cliffe to just think about how it would be balance-wise if the shield was slower, slightly penetrable, and far more expensive. And PLEASE add another weapon for the poor T's. All they had added was the equivelant to the FAMAS.

[RuffRyderzilla]

Keep it. It can be a lifesaver for defensive positions.

[CaMpEr_CaRl]

make the shield after the cs source is done

[zwing]

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im hearing people complaining about how hard it is to find a server where shield is banned or not.



LOOK HARDER!!!!



If shield is gonna get banned just because of that then maybe we should ban footsteps, flash lights, starting money, and friendly fire being able to be turned off.



My idea is to implement a new option in the server info.

In the Server Info Box, add another TAB on top. One Tab will display the currernt Server Info Information and the Second Tab will display the modification to the server.



For Example Heres an Image of my suggestion that i did with an image program. Of course its not perfect but just an idea of what im thinking.







*edit* STATS of course being the original Game Info Information

*edit2* i forgot to add arrows showing that it would continue down, but you guys get the idea....