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  • Paul Shuttle

    #91
    This comments thread is all kinds of funny.

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    • ^.j()$h.^

      #92
      cliffe wrote..

      Spoon,



      Can you update the prices up for discussion from the thread? A lot of people's comments are becoming outdated. Thanks.
      I updated the prices on my site, just getting the word out more. =)

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      • quxex1hi

        #93
        Do you think that tomorrow (April 1st), cliffe will tell the community that the changes are being instituted?

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        • -adrenaline-

          #94
          leave it the way it is!!!!!

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          • QuickDraw

            #95
            Ev!L ErN!E wrote..

            Don't worry about the prices of the damn weapons, and worry more about what weapons are worth upgrading/changing/adding/ or taking out.



            I think CS is WAY past due for some new weapons, people use nuthing more than M4/AK/MP5/Deagle/AWP.... you know why? Because the other weapons SUCK!!!



            Simply lowering there prices and raising the prices on the most used weapons wont make CS better...

            people want more choices in weapons and gear... There are thousands of weapons out there that they could add that would help make CS better.



            Not to mention some different game types to play, playing de_ and cs_ maps get old... think of a way to add some new game types into CS before you WAIST time marking up the prices on weapons.



            GG
            those are some very good points right thurr. maybe ernie can replace this 39 year old fat fuck who doesnt kno wth hes doing nor gives a shit.

            Gameshot911 wrote..

            you should be shot for posting before thinking about the reamifications of such a change.
            you hear that cliffe? u dumbshit.

            fyi: i was being sarcastic in the first place u tool.

            appended @ [time="1080689458"]

            Spoonman wrote..

            You ingrates should be grateful that Cliffe is giving you a chance to voice your opinion BEFORE these changes are made.
            Cliffe should be grateful that someone didn't beat him over the head for his greed and stupidity by now.

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            • astaroth

              #96
              I'm real glad something is being thought to change "Ak/Colt"-Strike. Sorry about you people who hate all other weapons. Still, I think maybe the primary weapons (Ak/Colt/MP5/AWP/Deagle) should keep their prices so people would complain less.



              Also, I dont think any weapon (except Galil) should become more expensive, as it would increase the number of save rounds.



              Now, on the prices...



              Pistols: All but the deagle should be dirty cheap or they wont be used, especially by CTs, as Usp is great and cost nothing. I would make them all cost about a flash or HE. None of them are overpowered (except Deagle). Most people wont expend much on a sidearm, unless it's dirty cheap.



              Shotgun: $1400 is fine, would like something like $1200-1300. It's very hard to use, albeit powerful



              SMGs: Good prices, but keep the MP5 price as is.



              Rifles: Again, keep Ak/Colt prices, because of whiners. I do think Ak is under-priced, but most maps are CT sided anyway....

              Aug $3200 - Good for pubs, still would not be used by Pro

              Sig $3300 - Really, there isnt anything that can be done about this. Ak is super-super-cheap, hard to not choose it. Only option I see is pricing it under the Colt (like $2800-$2900). It's not like it's over-powered anyway.

              Galil/Famas - swap their prices. Galil is underpriced, Famas is overpriced. But do not rise their prices to Ak levels as they are not very good weapons.



              AWP - Keep its price, whiners galore....



              Para $4300 - Good price, would prefer $4000. will still be under-used.



              Cliffe, thanks for trying to improve Valve relationship with the fans.

              It's visible that you are more worried about listening to us now.

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              • Def1ance

                #97
                QuickDraw wrote..

                those are some very good points right thurr. maybe ernie can replace this 39 year old fat fuck who doesnt kno wth hes doing nor gives a shit.



                you hear that cliffe? u dumbshit.



                fyi: i was being sarcastic in the first place u tool.



                Cliffe should be grateful that someone didn't beat him over the head for his greed and stupidity by now.
                Hanv't you been banned yet? I respect your opinion, but the way you express yourself reallys needs to change.

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                • Se7eN!

                  #98
                  Edited by [user="55893"] @ [time="1080690111"]

                  Ok first off...



                  Why? Why do they need to be changed? For some reason do you think that everyone should be using the stupid ass P90's and shit like that? It's going to get to where every gun on the menu is going to shoot perfectly straight and kill everything the way its been going. Why keep fucking with the game, just sit down and play it, if anything change what is nescessary and it won't suck.



                  (*)Also, most importantly, raising the prices will only force more "eco" rounds onto players and make it even more random in terms of how many rounds you can play with complete equip!

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                  • QuickDraw

                    #99
                    Giambatista wrote..

                    Guys...If you like those changes and want them to take place, do so with maturity so that Cliffe might actually read your thoughts, if u dont want them to take place, do so with maturity so that Cliffe might actually read your thoughts.
                    stfu
                    Giambatista wrote..

                    With that being said, overall i think those are solid changes cliffe.
                    no theyre not
                    Giambatista wrote..

                    I personally don't use the galil or fammas ever, just prefer colt/ak myself so the price changes to those doesnt affect me at all
                    no one cares. first you talk about the overall effect it will have on match play: good. then you talk about how u never use the famas/galil, okay? your point?
                    Giambatista wrote..

                    The deagle has so much power for its price but is such a pile of randomness, like its hitboxes and overall logic make no sense and any gamer in the world would back that.
                    No they wouldn't. All the pistols accuracy have been screwed up. not just the deagle, but you obviously being a deagle whore, wouldnt know.

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                    • {Sose}

                      #100
                      cliffe:



                      Those changes look spectacular. Especially so with the increased damage and accuracy of both the TMP and the MAC-10. And of course the price decreases for both the AUG and the Sig-552 Commando are great.



                      ............



                      Now if only the shield got a bit of tweaking in the right places...

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                      • QuickDraw

                        #101
                        ^.j()$h.^ wrote..

                        VALVe has been listening to the community more now.
                        Making changes every fucking day and experimenting thru steam is what i call being a fucker, not listening. if they really were listening, theyd hear the words "Fuck off." and "Get the fucking shield out."

                        In conclusion: Valve is being as gay as it always has been.

                        Try experimenting first and THEN proposing it. not experimenting in the general public and then fixing it. d-bags.

                        cliffe wrote..

                        And again, this is being *discussed* for a reason. There's no reason to berate anyone (Quickdraw).
                        as you can see, cs is a good portion of my gaming. my immaturity and rudeness is irrelevant with the changing of the money system. i appologize for the harsh words, but please see that behind the f-bombs and homophobia im trying to say that these changes are ridiculous.

                        appended @ [time="1080690619"]

                        Def1ance wrote..

                        Hanv't you been banned yet? I respect your opinion, but the way you express yourself reallys needs to change.
                        i respond in a rude manner, yes. but the things u quoted me on were all responses to stupidity, my own posts and not responses are usually calmer.

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                        • Def1ance

                          #102
                          IMO CS needs a or a better, PR team.



                          PR = Public Relations for all u morons
                          QuickDraw wrote..

                          i respond in a rude manner, yes. but the things u quoted me on were all responses to stupidity, my own posts and not responses are usually calmer.
                          I was refering to the majority of your posts, only quoted you so people you and others would know who I was talking about.

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                          • QuickDraw

                            #103
                            AceR wrote..

                            ahahaha APRIL FOOLS!
                            only if :-/

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                            • FoZ|Anti

                              #104
                              how about instead of changing weapon prices and the money system even more you go back to 1.3 netcode; when it was actually skill based and you had to have the crosshair ON the person and not shoot at their feet or 10 ft. behind them and get a headshot. now theres an idea.

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                              • {Sose}

                                #105
                                I have to concurr with the other members of CS-Nation. QuickDraw = Retarded



                                Good thing he is commenting like he is though. I know I'd be happy if I was cliffe seeing how the moronic lamers were getting all piss poor upset and throwing a tantrum over changes to improve the overall game.



                                Also, if all you do all day long is watch recorded CPL games, well, it sure isn't cliffe that needs to get a life.

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