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  • Mr. T

    #136
    NO NO NO NO NO



    i agree with making the crappy guns cheaper though (the mac10 would be a bit too good with improved accuracy...)

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    • Thortok2000

      #137
      I'd also like to point out that as money changes will only affect league play, to assume that they're being made for pub play is ridiculous. They'll affect pubbing slightly, of course, and pubbing is definitely kept in mind, but the specific "Do I save or do I buy, and on what?" monetary choices are basically explicitly for those 12-round only scrims and matches.



      Cliffe and company just want better, more varied answers to that question your team has to ask itself every round.

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      • Howzetbradah

        #138
        Das dumb

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        • Sn00p_B0B

          #139
          Wut about the UMP... that gun is worst than the TMP and MAC-10....



          the change to the awp wont change shit, the AK too... well, maybe 2800/2900 but with the +800$$ per plant, its not a really big problem



          lowering the cost of the aug is not good :/ the 522 is not as good as the aug, they should lower the 522 but keep the aug at the same price

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          • gumplunger

            #140
            Edited by [user="55326"] @ [time="1080707191"]

            If you increase the price of the good guns, it'll be harder to get them (obviously), but that just means that once someone (or a team) gets a higher priced rifle, they will be able to dominate the other team by running the money system even harder than was possible before. As for pubs, if you want to see more of a few people on the server having fantastic scores while the rest of the people struggle to purchase rifles, these changes are the way to go. Thus, I'm voting against these changes.



            edit: oh, he updated em. I actually like the fact that the AK would be about the same as the M4, and the aug and 552 are in the same price range as the m4 and ak. That's a good idea. However, I don't think raising the price of the famas and gailil is a good idea.

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            • DchozN

              #141
              * AWP 5 in clip
              ...

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              • KhAoS

                #142
                I'm really hoping to see a giant "APRIL FOOL'S!"



                btw, who's ready for some WWE Nation on april 1?

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                • DchozN

                  #143
                  sure sure

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                  • RaptorRage

                    #144
                    The lesser used guns can't be improved, because then all the chronic M4 and AK users would complain that their 90% monopoly on all the kills in CS would be infringed upon.

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                    • I2o[G]uE TacT-X

                      #145
                      Edited by [user="196368"] @ [time="1080707959"]

                      i used to be the only one with a red lettered avatar, now i'm not and i don't feel as special... =/



                      ok getting that out of the way, i think it's bs to change the price of the ak to make it higher (you could get a real ak for $50 in the real world). it was comprable for the ak to have less accuracy than the m4, but it would be cheaper. i liked the balance of the weapons, the t's had less accurate weapons, but they were cheaper and sometimes more powerful shot for shot and the vice versa for the ct's. only thing i could accept is the lower priced pistols, p90, m9, tmp, mac10, ump, and para. everything else is bs and should be left unchanged.

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                      • mathyou

                        #146
                        People don't use the bad guns becaues they are bad. If you want us to use other guns, make them good (but not as good as those autosnipers now are... eeek). I guess I don't really see the problem with clans only using 9 guns or so. How does that hurt the game?

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                        • lopinboy

                          #147
                          RaptorRage wrote..

                          The lesser used guns can't be improved, because then all the chronic M4 and AK users would complain that their 90% monopoly on all the kills in CS would be infringed upon.
                          That's the truth. Don't want to tread on the m4/ak whores easy kills. Making other weapons have a chance at killing a m4/ak user... that's absurd! :)

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                          • 3a5tw00D

                            #148
                            those changes are cool, it'll be fun seeing how teams adjust with the money system changes. However, you can make a really large, positive impact on the community by releasing an opaque radar immediately. Sorry, but that would REALLY help everyone...

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                            • Tool

                              #149
                              They look pretty decent to me, although I would much rather playtest this first to see how it balances out in scrims and such. People in pubs won't be affected nearly as much, but saving and such would be a much bigger factor. Although I am comfortable with the way things are now... *shrugs*

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                              • HoMiCyDe

                                #150
                                kill competitive cs some more



                                its clear that alot of the guns just plain suck

                                dont force people to use them by making guns that are effective more expensive

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