1.3 jump plugin

[daemon]

I thought about what rizzuh said. How this plugin is supposedly "splitting" the community. That's funny. So when adminmod let's you disable AWP, use PISTOLS only, or any other silly option that adminmod comes up with to ALTER the game other than the way it was originally release. Are you on their forums ranting about how their splitting the CS community?



Or are you posting 'NEW ADMIN MOD, GO DOWN LOAD IT GOGOGO'.



Your very bias about this and it shows.

[WastedTime]

Hi, i'm a 2 year counter strike player as u can tell from my name it was 2 years of wasted time.

THEY JUMP LIKE THEY HAVE CHOADS IN THERE ASS, FIX THIS NOW OR FOREVER MESS UP COUNTER STRIKE.

[UnknownVeteren]

Edited by [user="25835"] @ [time="1019977761"]

mouth wrote...

"Experienced players rely on things that take EXPERIENCE to learn. Experienced players do not rely so much on a single action.

Experienced players scoff at the idea of depending on BHing as much as you and the rest of these morons do.

Who are you to be judging what experienced players do and do not as a whole? I personally think i am experienced and i do not comply with your standards of a "experienced player".

I am getting so sick of these BULLSHIT attempts to justify the unjustifiable. There is no "up and down dimension" even WITH BHing. There is no "next level of skill", like some other git is trying to pass off. Unless, that is, the "next level of skill" has become so perverted by you simpering, lowlife lamers that the "next level" means "abusing hitboxes". Calling BHing a skill, let alone calling it the next fucking level, would imply that it's something that can be perfected by a means of practice. Imagine that, perfecting the "skill" of hitbox exploitation. I'd just LOVE to see that, wouldn't you? I can just see some tool like KSharp working to find juuuuuuuust the right moment to BH in order to attain the maximum bullshit value for his effort (or lack thereof). The art of fucking the other player out of well-aimed headshots, what an appealing concept.

1st off, the jumping skills do make a difference between "skilled players" and non-experienced. This is(was) the beauty of counter-strike. After all, would'nt you like to play in a game that rewards the "skilled" playerz over the not? In what way is that justified? It is a simple fact, 1.3 made the experienced players win over the non-experienced. 1.4 rather scores the players in almost random location. Leaving most of the advanced players in the dust without hope.

2nd, I dont understand this "hitbox" skill. If it is shooting boxes where people may stand is in no way connected to jumping substantially. If anything, it supports this "hitbox" skill, with paras that have better aim than mp5s now.

In conclusion, I just want CS to change back to it was. To differentiate skill from the n00bs.

In conclusion, you're another poser who's pretending like he knows how to play the game. Additional thoughts? I hope you die painfully from a virus that causes profuse bleeding from your ears and anus.

This is just blinded statements aimed to get me pissed. But i will not disappoint you. In retalliation, your ignorence has blinded your thinking. So if your reading this don't even bother. Anyway, if you'd like to challenge me in a game of 1.3 i'd be glad to meat the accomodations. You scared? Did your daddy beat you to often? Household breakup? Don't take it on me. Your non-enlightened mind will not precieve any other views. Your closed mind is not worthy of a little piece of my mind.

[1.4IsforJews]

Ok Ok, 1.4 sucks shit its the fucking shityest pacth they have EVER came out with who ever made this a mother fucking jew. And if you like this patch go take a fucking shower or stuff your fat lazy jewish asses in your rich fucking ovens. Counter-Strike is a now just another shity crapy game like TFC and Globle ops so just n00bs can have fun spaming like lil 6 yr olds. My fucking little brother is like 50 for 18 just buys a fucking para and spams. if you really think this is CS you a mother fucking jewish jew that sucks some black asses hary balls. Tell me fuck you. well............ FUCK YOU JEW

[Unregistered]

mouth wrote..

"This very much detracts from the overall skill required to frag players, as they can no longer do anything to avoid your fire"



DETRACTS from the overall skill? Since when did pressing the mother fucking jump key ADD to the skill required to win? Can no longer do anything to avoid your fire? What the fuck, it's called MOVING. WE CAN ALL STILL MOVE IN THE GAME. We're not statues. If you're complaining that you can't do anything to dodge bullets, maybe you should try... i don't know... getting the hell out of firezones? OMG, what a fucking idea, not constantly barreling into hotspots on the map! Why didn't you think of this before? Because you're goddamned scrub morons, that's fuckin' why. I've played since beta1, and NEVER have i seen so many scrub newbies pretend to be "vets".

Good for u jackass, if u think ur so fucking smart how bout a challenge huh? Strafing to dodge bullets does crap. n00bs are fucking killing ppl with ak spammage. And tell me this, how the fuck are u gonna dodge an awper? Theres no way in fuckin hell u could do that with just strafing. How bout a challenge - in 1.3, i could kill u with any gun in the game, u pick...

[KalFalnal]

Edited by [user="2876"] @ [time="1019965700"]

Boo hoo, I can't jump around like a maniac anymore, life is so horrible!!!!

whawhawha



Being able to dodge bullets by jumping has bothered ever since I first played CS, this isn't the matrix, if you don't want to get shot don't stand in front of the guy with the gun.

[BoSLeY]

The strafing and dodging is easy, AK spammage may hurt you but take your aim and dodge and hide behind a wall and keep doing that. Crouching improves accuracy but then you're just sitting ducks. As for the stealth walking I have to admit it's so slow now. But if you kno your opponents position, I crouch and walk and frag 8). As for the awpers I admit it's hard, hide behind a box or wall, give yourself the smallest gap and keep hitting where you think the awper is. Chances are he'll keep going back to that spot or stay there.

[lockhart]

If 1.4 never came out and the changes were never proposed... who was complaining about the gun accuracy and the jump speed? Someone honestly tell me that they hated the way 1.3 was and wanted what was put in in 1.4, BEFORE everyone was told what 1.4 was going to be like. HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANTED CS LIKE THIS? Skill is gone. And when I say that, I mean that becoming a good player in 1.4 is easier than becoming a good player in 1.3. The only reason the cool spec modes are in is to get people to say 'We like some parts of the patch' so they can say 'See, people liked it.' Does valve really like newbies more than veteran players? Probably. Very few vets are saying they like the gameplay changes. I started at 1.0 (retail for life!), and I was a MAJOR n00b, so much so that i stopped playing until 1.1, when I started playing with bots. After this and playing decent for awhile, i started BLATANTLY cheating... (tracing people thru walls.) It was fun in a very juvenile type way... but then i found a server that I liked, with cool people. I stopped cheating, and realized that playing well without cheats was more fun than owning with cheats. Because there was a sense of accomplishment. Going from ultra-noob to cheater to good player showed me that I accomplished something. I got out of being an asshole which everyone hates to being that guy you hate because he killed you four rounds in a row with skill. 1.4 is going to destroy this accomplishment for the newbies who actually want to be great players someday. Hopefully they don't use cheating as a midpoint for that like I did, but when they get to a level of proficiency where they know how to spray in the general direction of the enemy and kill tons of people like that... it practically IS cheating, as there is very little work involved with getting a lot of kills. They don't have to jump, they don't have to walk, they just have to hold W and press mouse1 and they get that little knife-thru-the-skull icon AFTER their name, and then die to another one of them who is doing the same thing. 1.3 was a combo of luck and skill, and even though I enjoyed 1.1 better than 1.3, I miss the great group of guys I used to hang around with playing our little game, as I never play anymore, due to the luck factor being greater than the skill factor.

P.S. Anyone else miss the hitbox 'bugs' of 1.1?

[KalFalnal]

36159 people playing CS as I post this....compared to the numbe of people complaining here.....hmmmm, yeah everyone just hates CS so much....

[lockhart]

i never said everyone hated it... im sure if they turned it into tic-tac-toe there would be two people who liked it... still, even though what you are basically saying is you cant please all of the people all of the time, the people who hate 1.3 < the people who hate 1.4. that is why i dont think these changes will get cs more play

[CSObserver]

Mouth



Like Unknown Veteran I have a life outside CS - Both professionally and socially -- Something you probably don't have -- And while it is a waste of internet space to respond to your crap I feel I must because you are a prime example of what is driving people away from CS -- NOT any new game-play restrictions or anything else.



What makes a good game great is not the game itself. It's the people playing it. Period.



It's bullsh*t, immature, ignorant and closed-minded attitudes like yours that give the game a bad name. I don't care if you're 15 or 50, but the way you post is not going to win you any friends... OR convince anyone of your opinions or what you have or want to say.



And I'm sure you'll say, "Good. I wasn't looking for friends motherfucker. Fuck you, asshole"... But guess what?



If you're trying to be this cool, "tell-it-like-it-is" persona - aka "Mouth" -- The Andrew Dice Clay of the CS Community -- You're too late pal. That kind of crap is cliched and out-dated AND I've seen others do it a Hell of a lot better than you.



So my final words to you?



Go take a nap in your crib and suck on your bottle because the adults were having a conversation until you came on.



Anyway...



As far as the jump plugin-in goes...



I played 1.4 for four hours straight last night on a no-time limit, Dust server that I frequent and I gotta say that I was actually at the top of the entire server when I left with like 95-40.



No, it's not anywhere near "leet" stats... BUT my point is I have NEVER gotten that high AND I don't think if I was playing 1.3 I would even approach that range; I think my highest average on 1.3 was like 65-30 or something like that and I was still like the third highest overall on the entire server (both teams).



And that IS my point.



The jumping restriction wasn't that much of a big deal (duh! no one could do it)... But it is not JUST the jumping that I found 'disturbing' in the new version.



The game is almost too easy now as Cron said.



I mean, there were players - I don't know if they were noobs or not - Who I had never seen before on the server who were racking up kills left and right using the AK and M14A from long distances -- like the terrorist end of the long ramp under the overpass.



So, as far as the actual jump plug-in is concerned...



I still stand by my first statement that Valve underestimated what a player wants and NEEDS to keep them playing the game AND buying future games by them (which is what Valve wants of course).



In addition, I agree it is just like the other Admin Mod plug-ins that at least you have the choice of playing on a server that has jumping or no AWP, or no FF (server variable not Admin Mod I know) this is an acceptable compromise.

[UnknownVeteren]

Nice........see mouth, listen to CSObserver. Maybe he should smack some sense into you.....hahaha. gj btw CSObserver.

[Unregistered]

KalFalnal wrote..

36159 people playing CS as I post this....compared to the numbe of people complaining here.....hmmmm, yeah everyone just hates CS so much....

Yeah, nice observation. Out of those 36k ppl how many visit CSNation?



BTW, how many times in a server have you heard "This version sucks"? Play in a server for an hour, and just tell me if you hear less than 20 complaints...

KalFalnal wrote..

Boo hoo, I can't jump around like a maniac anymore, life is so horrible!!!!

whawhawha



Being able to dodge bullets by jumping has bothered ever since I first played CS, this isn't the matrix, if you don't want to get shot don't stand in front of the guy with the gun.

Another thing... people thing CS1.4 is more realistic? If you want a realistic game go play those RainbowSix games, theyre much more realistic. And you know what - they SUCK!!!



"Real life or the Matrix... I choose... the Matrix"

[UnknownVeteren]

Edited by [user="25835"] @ [time="1020117487"]

Ohh shit...haha. mad nice quote their coRd. Can't beat the Matrix... Cept maybe counter-strike (1.3), but of course.

[notty]

Enough with this freakin jump issue already it's not gonna get changed. do what you like. I've played 1.4 for about a week now and at first i was adamantly against it. but now...it's not as bad as people make it out to be. whether they fix the jumping or not really doesn't matter to me anymore. If they fix all the damns bugs in the game that'd make me more happy. my cs crashes and hangs 3 times as much as it ever did in 1.3. wtf right? On that note because our server hasn't been up dated yet me and my clan have decided to revert back to 1.3 till the owner of our server gets a chance to update. damn people and their real lives.