cs 1.4 preview

[sumdood]

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The12apist wrote..

This new slower jumping garbage is going to suck hardcore..And since you no longer can strife side to side the only way to battle is to stand still or crouch still.

We won't be able to strafe side to side anymore???

Please tell me this guy is full of shit...



Oh and I am still waiting for one of you leakers to tell me if they cut the headshots back to pre 1.3 levels?? Or is it the same?

[Plekto]

From what I have heard, the hitboxes are even better with the exception of the head, which while it isn't perfect(still a bit big). it is smaller than 1.2 was and a LOT smaller than it currently is. I expect headshots to become much harder.

[Grimbal]

i just wanted 2 ask a question about the steam? will this new anti cheat system make the game laggy as 4 me a 56k user and with the models staying after u r dead.

[Rabid]

Hi Guys...



I'm the Development Manager for Steam at Valve. I'm not here to say alot other than before you judge what Steam is, just keep your eyes open. We aren't stupid, we knew that there was a good chance that people would violate their NDAs with us and while we aren't doing anything about it now, we haven't disclosed much either.



You guys are speculating about a system that you've seen in place for 4 days now. The real feature set has yet to be shown to anyone so all I can say for now is that if you want to really participate and experience first hand new things in the Valve universe, continue to play one of the games on Steam... There are things coming that we may not even tell you about to see your reactions when they just appear, but you won't know about those if you just decide now that we're finished and are only testing before release now will you? :)



Rabid

ricke@valvesoftware.com

[ioCS,undertaker]

Edited by [user="9808"] @ [time="1011565923"]

To say something about new jumping based on "reality", yes you can not jump continously all the time, there are no cts that train to jump etc. But show be somebody who has the ability to crouch in less than 1 second with a rifle in his arms, do not lose his accuracy fires and stand ups in the same time as he crouches... Please show me, cause i wanna see this super guy :)



If CS will become more realistic, then it must be with all the features. In the future, if crouching is slowed down or continous crouching and standing is limited, then i wanna see faces of the guys that want more "reality" for the game. :P

[Xero|-WuvsJo0]

ok first of all to shinobi who speaks for all 1337's, can u please pull your head out of your arrogant ass, i know and have been invited to play with many of the top clans and have never heard anyone boast as much about how special they are in my life. Secondly, stamina to me will be the first step in ruining cs, the game as it is now with the exception of the large hitboxes is fine, the cheating however has also become out of hand and valve should really be working on that problem instead of "bunny hopping". And no people like shinobi are not the important people within the cs community, that is the retail community, people who play cs proffessionally are among the select few, and they are not aiming to please you. I say fix the cheating, fix the headshots and leave cs the way it is. No need to piss more people off by changing something you have made us so accustomed too throughout the years.

[creator07]

This is the problem with reality games. Games are meant to be fun and reality is not as fun as games.



Compare the number of people who play Firearms, DOD, TheSims, Simulators, and etc. to the people who play Quake, UT, DiabloII, Everquest, and etc.



You will see a big drop from realism to fanasty. And the common phrase, "CS is geared towards n00bs" is just be backed up by half the stuff that is added to CS each update.



CS was fun when it was unrealistic with realistic skins.

[H-13]

Who keeps saying they should be worrying about cheating and not this or that? They're working on anti-cheat like madmen! I mean...if you released a game, you're getting paid for its sales, and you don't want CHEATING to ruin it right? Also, keep some respect, and most of all READ other people's comments and evaluate them rather than trying to madly defend your argument w/o thinking about what you're really saying.

[Charlie]

hola

[feanor69]

There seem to be a lot of comments about realism in reference to bunny-hopping.



CS owes its popularity to a careful balance between realism and game play (though it wisely leans towards gameplay).



We all want realism in CS. Realistic guns, realistic environments, realistic weapons and physics. But, at the same time dealing with realistic factors such as weight, endurance, and crippling wounds are just tedious. Action Half-Life, anyone?



Case in point: Which map is more popular, de_dust or cs_747? Which map is more realistic?



In fact, de_dust is the most simplistic, least realistic map in the CS stable. Gameplay wins over realism again! :-D



Is bunny-hopping realistic? Who cares?



How will CS 1.4 change gameplay for the better or for the worse?

That's what I'm interested in. I'm hoping for the better, but we'll see.



And with the inclusion of Steam, I imagine that this update will attract more players than it scares off.

[creator07]

Realism with CS is not what I want actually. I do want realsim in maps though. I like 747 over dust. But I don't dislike dust cause of its nonrealism, but its lack of layout. The map is for campers and snipers.



And if CS was real life would you rush, snipe, camp, hide, or run?

[Stryder]

how can i get CS 1.4, it looks fuckin awsome, please someone tell me how!??!??!?!!?

[V!sioN]

Edited by [user="10754"] @ [time="1012112208"]

Hmm why is everybody talking about the bunny jump? Because the "problem" was allready solved. sv_airaccelerate 2 and sv_airmove 0



1.4 more realistic? What about add rain to de_aztec? or do you guys see often some lightning without rain?...What about those stones and boxes in maps? Do you often see in real life boxes and big stones just standing somewhere for no reason?...Maybe add "james bond" jumps?...Add some trees?...Add a granade pack with 20 HE's instead of 1? Or why not use airstrikes if u push a button so the whole nmi team is down?

Just those people who say we want more realism don't know what they are talking about. If you want realism, go play DoD or Medal of Honor. See how long it will be fun And if u like it u found urelf a new game and don't need to whine about CS.



About guys saying they get mad about the jumping guys Talking about "go play q3" <-- that is so n00bish..I don't know where u guys play but I never see guys jumping all the time. There is no point to jump towards your nmi. Only with a handgun it might be better. If u watch some demos of clan wars u don't see people jumping all the time. That's just stupid to say "people are jumping all the time and it makes me sick". Just play on "skilled" servers.



Btw the walk goes a a bit TO slow imo :)



That new map chateau...looks nice but why add so many water? Did u guys ever heard of sound?..If u are ct it's to easy to know where your nmi is. Let's say u are terror and u rush towards bp2 (B). You walk trough the water and certainly you have to get out of the water, BUT when u will do that the nmi will hear you so u can atleast expect 2 HE's coming ur way (Bp1 has the same problem). So what point has such a map in clanwars? Or is it just the 100th public map that will be a "flop"?

I like the size of the map and with such a size it would be a great war map...only the water thing sucks.



If the jumping thing goes on u will not longer play counter-strike but camper-strike. It allways has been campy though, but when somebody camps with an awp. You run to him strafing shooting ur mp5 on his body so he dies. Now somebody is camping but u can't rush to him and shoot, because u can't hit. U can't dodge bullets by jumping, because when u come down u are stuck for 0.5 sec. (ever saw that irl? People jump and stand still for a pause for 0.5 sec?



I have a nice suggestion though. What about make a new mod? I would like to call it "Camper-strike" (u can call it what ever u want :)) with the jumping thing in it. And just leave Counter-strike the way it is (those other features of 1.4 are welcome btw). I mean u can publice a update with the jump and one without. Then you go count the players of each mod after let's say 5 months. And watch the results, so u can see what the gamers really want in a CS.



Now I'm off to bed and going to have a nightmare about the lag jump, then I jump out of my bed and get stuck for 0.5 sec

[rG/-Martinos]

haha true true vision.

proposing to publish cs with and without the jump freeze shit and see which version is preferred. <-- GOOD option

Im so convinced that if this jump freeze will be in final beta 1.4 A LOT of people will stop playing cs including me.

Just when we achieved so much with cs (good sponsors).

Oh well shit happens... but it can be stopped when so many people fortell its gonna be a cskiller to put features in they dont want.

They whine about the jumping thing isnt realism.. well i can tell u experienced players dont jump that often.

Isnt it realism when u want to jump u CAN jump. ;]



Valve always takes in consideration what the gaming cs-community wants, well now is the time to open your eyes...

[dbw]

Stupid question coming up!



All of you talks about the new improved CS version... well where is it then?

Can´t find it, never been a good searcher though, but anyway.

Please reply cuz I want to play this RIGHT NOW!!



/dbw