cs 1.6: hands-on

**buq.** · 01-15-2003, 09:00 AM

very nice work rze.

i've used one of your screenshots for this newspost (http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=294303) i hope that's ok. otherwise i'll remove it.

**Macho Maen** · 01-15-2003, 09:06 AM

Changed so when bomb goes off, the player that planted the bomb gets three frags.

imho TOO MUCH - they could give a 1 frag ... not more.... ah well..

**SpAvvN** · 01-15-2003, 09:08 AM

i hope they improved ping for 56k... st00pid cablers

**street** · 01-15-2003, 09:11 AM

Lobster: if you don't like Friends, don't use it. If you prefer graphics over gameplay, go and play SOF2 online or some other thing.

Mouth: All I was saying was that as this is a beta, things are subject to change. I wasn't making excuses for anything. How about some constructive comments rather than the deconstructive (mwaha, see what I did?) faux - intellectual nonsense you spout at the moment? You may feel free to ignite your genitals at this point.

**BlackKnight** · 01-15-2003, 09:16 AM

Holy jeebus guys. The three frag idea is a good change. In pubs it might actually make people plant. And how are people gonna argue over it? It's not like they can go up to you and hit 'use' and steal the bomb.

Also the scoreboard thing isn't such a bad idea. For one thing it does add some realism (I'm not saying the game is realistic though) and some suspense. Let's say you are a T in assault, if you know there are three left, you are going to stay in the building, however if you don't know, you have a choice. You can either stay in, or risk going out in the chances that there is only 1. It adds a new level of playing.

**AceR** · 01-15-2003, 09:21 AM

AceR's Comments:

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Increased Glock damage slightly.

That's good. T's have a slightly better chance when there forced to glock.

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Changed so the bomb and hostages use T and upside-down T in the radar like players do (to indicate above/below the player).

This is very usefull now. We won't have to be searching for the bomb's location.

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Added zoom & health in HLTV.
This is a nice new feature. We can see how ksharp snipes now.

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Changed so the bomb defuser gets three frags for successfully defusing the bomb, Changed so when bomb goes off, the player that planted the bomb gets three frags..... Changed so live players don't see enemy deaths in the scoreboard
THIS IS THE STUPIDIEST THING EVER. WOW I DEFUSED THE BOMB I GET 3 FRAGS WTF, SAME FOR GETTING THE BOMB TO BLOW AND GETTING FRAGS THAT STUPID. I HOPE VALVE CHANGES THE ABOVE.[b/]

Alot of stuff are "fixed" which needed to be fixed (hltv fixes, flashbang bug, It's going to take a while to get use to the stuff that were added that will make the game stupid. ( read above ) I hope valve see's that nobody likes it in the beta test and they remove those stupid new features. The only good thing about getting frags on defusing/bombing is that people might actualy do the objectives now.

**Dangki** · 01-15-2003, 09:23 AM

Slightly increased Glock damage! About time. I'll wait for the official release not that I have any choice in the matter anyway.

**PCDawg** · 01-15-2003, 09:26 AM

The scoreboard of not knowing how manys remaining might not work out...it does make the game more realistic....but u'll get more players crawling, walking and moving ever so slowly not knowing how many players are left on the othe side.....or perhaps gets players camping waiting til those players pass....

**Babe Bear** · 01-15-2003, 09:42 AM

Glock with more damage? Ya!, now I have a real chance against that chicken in Italy.

Girl models? Well...we'll have a lotta gay pricks pretending to be girls...but it'll be interesting, I think we will see alot a hormone jocks play teamwork with some of the "girls".

**Macho Maen** · 01-15-2003, 09:43 AM

You didn't get the idea

**puffycloud** · 01-15-2003, 09:49 AM

AceR. wrote..

Alot of stuff are "fixed" which needed to be fixed (hltv fixes, flashbang bug, It's going to take a while to get use to the stuff that were added that will make the game stupid. ( read above ) I hope valve see's that nobody likes it in the beta test and they remove those stupid new features. The only good thing about getting frags on defusing/bombing is that people might actualy do the objectives now.

The frags thing is one of the best ideas I've ever seen in CS. There are too many DeathMatch players that hear the bomb planted and don't do anything or try to save their gun. Now, they'll have incentive to go get it. For me, the bomb has always been first priority because I care about winning the round and the match for my team, not having the best ratio (which I think they should remove completely).

I can't stand when there are 15 seconds left until the bomb explodes and some guy with a kit rushes in and starts shooting at Terrorists and not attempting to defuse. You have to look at it logically. No matter what happens, the bomb will explode and you lose. If you at least try to defuse the bomb, you could get lucky and win because the other team thought they had it won and ran away. That's happened a bunch of times to me.

It's too bad that they had to basically bribe people that play the game wrong into doing it right, but at least objectives will be more important. Plus, perhaps now that someone can go 30/0 just by running around defusing might change the emphasis put on score. I hate the scoreboard and people that constantly do /stats, /top15. And don't forget this has a huge opportunity to increase the speed of the game which has been the topic to bitch about for everyone in a clan for the past months. Instead of waiting around doing nothing, teams will rush to plant and rush to defuse.

**sniv** · 01-15-2003, 10:05 AM

at least the +3 frags will make people PLANT THE BOMB from time to time?

Same thing with defusing. Except we'd see people tking the defuser to try to get +3 frags and ending the game by every1 exploding.

**LoBsTeR-SiCk** · 01-15-2003, 10:05 AM

street wrote..

Lobster: if you don't like Friends, don't use it. If you prefer graphics over gameplay, go and play SOF2 online or some other thing.

Friends..i dunno if im gonna use it. I just don't care about uneeded superfluities when nuke looks like puke and needs to be addressed..in my opinion worse than aztec or inferno did...i just dont get it.

sof2? oook

so which is it..u really think cs should be void of graphic improvements?..or that graphic improvements reduce cs game play?..or what?? the HL engine is impossible to improve on? Im confused. Listen to yourself..

**GriffinMouse** · 01-15-2003, 10:10 AM

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Tree Wizard wrote..

Changed so live players don't see enemy deaths in the scoreboard.

Is this what everyones on about btw ? Doesnt this just mean the players who originally had DEAD next to their name wont appear at all ?

If this is the case, why is that so bad ?

MY POINT EXACTLY!

It seems like most people are too flame-happy to actually read what it`s saying.

I think it`s good for those tight defusing situations (and some others) where you`re rushing to defuse the bomb and need an idea on the opposition that`s waiting for you. Makes figuring out who`s still standing a bit easier.

and.. umm.. [brain shortcircuits :P ]

The Galil is even CHEAPER that the AK?!

Just doesn`t sound good to me..

The Galil/FAMAS skins look okay, I guess.

Good enough to play with, anyway.

Also, I had read about the old weapons model/skin tune-up only once before (on CS-Nation of course

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but I immedietly noticed the difference on the usp in one of the screenshots!

OH YEAH! giving the glock some extra umph is guud.

it really needs it.. Hopefully it`ll balance things out a bit.

/me is getting pretty exited about 1.6.. =)

don`t take it seriously

(ps. sorry for bad grammar/spelling, if any. my english is getting rusted..)

**Macho Maen** · 01-15-2003, 10:14 AM

yeah yeah the frag addition is nice only it could be smaller...

well actually... :) i don't really care that much