cs 1.6: hands-on

[lockhart]

i'm going to look at this from my perspective, a player who plays in CAL-M:

Changed so the bomb defuser gets three frags for successfully defusing the bomb.

Changed so when bomb goes off, the player that planted the bomb gets three frags.

the three frags thing is dumb, unless it gives +$900, in which case teammates will be asking for defuses/plants. fun for pubs i guess...

Changed so live players don't see enemy deaths in the scoreboard.

must... assassinate... whoever... thought... this... up...

this is right on par with valve adding things that piss off the clan community. this is such an amazing gift to the T's it's not even funny. all it does is add headaches to the teams in matches... can you picture clans calling out when they kill an enemy "2 DOWN!" like its a freaking baseball game or something? and does this stop anyone from hitting ~ and looking at the console? i cant say this is as bad as the jumping change, but it is almost as STUPID as the jumping change. if they REALLY, REALLY want this, PLEASE make it a variable on by default so the cal.cfg can turn it off!!!!!!!!!!!!!

valve seems to simply change the game to suit pub servers more and more every update, and even though i agree with the fact that most people play in pubs, they should LET US TURN THESE THINGS OFF!!!

good thing this is only a beta, and hopefully the person who put this in will die an untimely death and everyone else will realize, wow that was a bad idea.

ps: +glock damage is good.

[.skywalke|2.]

lockhart i love you....

[Disk2]

Very nice preview, rizzuh.

[icer-]

Exo wrote..

The 3 frags when the bomb is defused/explodes was sort of unexpected. Definitely influences gameplay.



narby's additions/changes look great, and I can hardly not throw up in anticipation (I'm not being sarcastic).



I think the scoreboard change is about as foolish as slowing down the walking speed. But that's just me. I don't see why they don't just do alive players by frags, then dead players by frags. It seems to have no reasoning behind it.

The 3 frags for defusing/planting (if it explodes): Only influential in pubs. Matches, it won't matter.



narby's additions look great, yes.



There's no reason to change the scoreboard in it's current form, anyway.

[Seven`]

On one hand the +3 frags is cool, because it will encourage planting/defusing. On the other hand, I've always liked that CS scores show nothing but kills and deaths. I for one like to go into deathmatch mode every now and then.



I think the scoreboard thing really sucks the most, though. It just doesn't seem to fit into the picture. Maybe its because the whole long ass time I've played this game, it has shown who's dead and who's not. Blah.

[Exo]

Yeah it's not like you can influence gameplay in a match. Oh wait..

[lockhart]

[rizzuh]

In matches they plant and defuse anyway. The three frags won't matter because the team winning is more important than the score.

[lockhart]

rizzuh, does planting the bomb give +$900?

exploding/defusing i mean

[StealthMonkey]

the one bug fix that is still missing the the radar dissapearing after a map change sometimes.



otherwise everything sounds great



and one question: im guessing no, but can you pick up the shield if someone drops it?

[NuclearTeddyBear]

In the changelog..

Changed so the bomb and hostages use T and upside-down T in the radar like players do (to indicate above/below the player).

is mentioned twice, and in the bug fixes..

Fixed bug where players could duck while traveling up ladders and not lose any speed (but the sound volume was reduced).



Fixed players being able to move up ladders faster than their maxspeed.

is also repeated twice. Just thought I'd point that out.



I think that the change that no longer allows live players to see deaths in the scoreboard is stupid too, I honestly don't see why they would do that, unless it's in an attempt to increase realism, and if that was the case you'd think they'd change about every other aspect of the game as well. Not everything about the game can be realistic, if it was, it would be no fun.



I also have a question. What if you walk while crouched with the riot shield in the defensive position? Will it automatically move down?

[BGreen420]

ruzzuh, the reason the guy was good sometimes and bad the others is that was 2 different guys. The good one was Ryan, Exec. Producer of GS Live who is good. The other was Craig Beers, and editor at GS who hasn't played since 1.3.



p.s. your right about the AV stuff, I was on the phone with Ryan while they were setting it up :P

[Gaill.arD]

Looking good. Can't wait for bomb/defuse to get the 3 frag points.

[ViRuS.]

I cant wait for the BETA to come out so I can start complaining about the scoreboard not showing deaths anymore. Like lockhart suggested, if they leave this and don't give the option it has to be one of the stupidist ideas that they've had.

[Ded | Sokaris]

So are the ex_ commands locked so gays cant netcode?



And yeah, i hope they do fix that god damn lost radar bug