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[[CyW]-=BigBear=-]

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#6, I don't see what the problem is with the shield for competative CS? If a complete CT team buys shields there is no way they will stop any somewhat skilled and fully armed T-team that uses proper tactics.. Also, 2 T AKers v 1 shielding CT = dead CT..



To many CS players are focussed on killing the other guy instead of following the objectives (typical).. If a CT is camping in a corner with a shield, just let him sit there, go plant the bomb and win the round.. It's that easy you know..



The shield is a defensive weapon, I'll always pick a AK or M4 over it.. But it also adds an extra dimension to tactical play in CS, a thing I welcome because imho wars had become a little bit boring, same tactics and weapons being used for a long time now.. I also welcome the changes in some maps which will make wars refreshing again.. We'll have to wait and see how 1.6 really plays competivly..

[_Shorty]

bozer wrote..

Competitive CS is ruined if the shield remains. Ask any CAL i team.

Asking them is pointless because they haven't bothered to learn how to play with it in the game. How about asking someone that's played with the shield in the game since the day they put it in. When you're playing in a game where pretty much everyone has been playing with the shield you can tell that it doesn't really make any difference. It is just something different. The fact that you're too stubborn to actually TRY IT FOR A WHILE is why you think it's so unbalanced. It doesn't take that long to figure out what to do with the shield, or against the shield. It's simply something new that you need to get used to. Once you get used to it, the game's as balanced as it ever was. Quit being such babies and go and actually play for a while, heh. It isn't an issue at all, it's just a change.

[daniel88c]

i think that there is no problem with 1.6, its just the way it was delivered. If it was just an install file without steam, it would have been better.

[JdeFalconr]

daniel88c wrote..

i think that there is no problem with 1.6, its just the way it was delivered. If it was just an install file without steam, it would have been better.

I agree with ya, daniel. People will unaviodably complain no matter what changes in CS, but version changes are bearable when you can play the game...look at the history of previous version releases. Steam has been making it difficult for people to play at all, and that's very frustrating.



I'm interested in why Valve chose not to put out both a Steam installation of 1.6 as well as a normal patch as we've seen in just about every other CS release. Was it becasue of compatability issues? Removal of WON to accommodate SteamID? Wanting to force people to use Steam? I'm eager to see how long it takes somebody to make a mod for CS 1.5 to play like 1.6 while bypassing the soon-to-be-offline WON servers.

[poopcrap007]

STEAM IS SO FUCKING UN FUCKING STABLE....OFF AND ON AND OFF AND ON AND OFF...man make the fucking steam WORK everytimes u want to play...

[[CyW]-=BigBear=-]

The problem with Steam imho is that you can't choose which content server to use.. If you check Steam's status page (http://www.steampowered.com/status.html) you'll see that some servers are all maxed out, and that others are hardly used.. I think to many people are directed to the same servers.. I for one am in Amsterdam, so I should be able to use Xs4all, which should be very fast for me.. But Steam is very slow for me, not even logging in some times, so I think I'm also on the Gamespy one or something.. Let people choose their own Steam servers, and alot of problems will be fixed I think..

[MrFelix]

naem wrote..

You seem to forget that you can shoot an AWPer. You see someone coming at you with a shield, you can't do any damage to them (unless you throw a nade at them and they're too stupid to dodge it).

nah, some awpers you cant shoot unless you have 5 ppl rushing at once, even then with only like 2 left afterwards. I cant comment on shield that much because I havent been able to run it yet (steam crashing, n just not working methinks)

[Sovereignty]

Felix: I don't bitch about awp because I was an awp whore for as long as I can remember. The point is you can still attack an awper. They're still susceptible to damage. If you have a shield, the ONLY way you can possibly take damage is by a grenade. If you're on the bridge in aztec for example, you cant even get hit by grenades because they go right through the bridge. You don't see a slight imbalance there?



My point is if someone comes running at you with a shield, there's absolutely nothing you can do except run away because you can't shoot them. Even if you hit them with a direct grenade shot, it'll never do 100 damage.

[i3lu]

put a ct on aztec blocking dd with shield. then put 2 blocking bridge with shield. the remaining two watching bridge from water. now tell me how ts can possibly win on a map that is already very difficult for ts.

[Registered]

yeah lets go plant the bomb... what if the shielder is guarding the damn bomb? What do we do then?



seriously, im not gonna buy a grenade and waste it just to do SOME damage to a shielder, unless he/she already has low enough life to die by the blast which i won't be able to know.

[MikeJ]

the worst thing is you can defuse with the shield deployed.

[MrFelix]

MikeJ wrote..

the worst thing is you can defuse with the shield deployed.

run round the side and knife

[[CyW]-=BigBear=-]

#44, 3 or more Ts rush water, 3 or more AK Ts v 2 shield CTs = 2 CTs dead, Ts plant bomb, 3 remaining CTs with shields trying to get to the bomb get flanked by multiple Ts guarding the bomb, Ts win..



#45, Ts should stay with the bomb, no way a few shielders can all get to the bomb alive if Ts do their job as a team..



#46, I agree that should be changed, just as it was changed being able to fire your gun while defusing..



But again, we'll have to wait to see how it works out in real clanwars, maybe I'm wrong and the shield is unbalanced, maybe I'm right and it's not.. Just don't be to negative about a something new like the shield because it's unknown to you and you still have to figure out how to beat it..

[pinkassmonkey]

yar!

[Registered]

what if an idiot decides to rush in and we cant get to the damn bomb?

btw im talking about a bomb thats dropped not planted

i want a mailbag.