Microsoft Confirms All Xbox One Games will Require Mandatory Install with a Fee to Transfer to Another Account (UPDATE 3)

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  • Shawn Zipay
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    • Apr 2003
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    Microsoft Confirms All Xbox One Games will Require Mandatory Install with a Fee to Transfer to Another Account (UPDATE 3)

    Update 3 (7:15PM): Xbox Live's Major Nelson just put up a new blog entry saying that the company does not yet have any confirmed details on how used games will be handled.

    He does, however, say that "should you choose to play your game at your friend's house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile."

    That should clear at least one thing up.

    Have I mentioned yet just how much of a total cockup this whole thing has been?

    Update 2 (6:12PM): So, it seems like there is actually a fee associated with playing games off of your account. Microsoft's own Phil Harrison explains exactly what will happen when you buy a game.
    Here's how the system works: when you buy an Xbox One game, you'll get a unique code that you enter when you install that game. You'll have to connect to the Internet in order to authorize that code, and the code can only be used once. Once you use it, that game will then be linked to your Xbox Live account. "It sits on your harddrive and you have permission to play that game as long as you’d like," Harrison said.

    Other users on the console will be able to play that game as well, Harrison said. So you don't need to buy multiple games per family. "With the built-in parental controls of the system it is shared amog the users of the device," he said.

    But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison says.

    "The bits that are on that disc, you can give it to your friend and they can install it on an Xbox One," he said. "They would then have to purchase the right to play that game through Xbox Live."

    "They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.

    "Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.

    You'll have to pay full price just to play the game on another console with another account? Oh God, why!?

    But wait, what about used games? If you want to get rid of a game you bought, can you do that? Sure you can! Maybe. Well, Microsoft is still figuring that out.
    "We will have a solution—we’re not talking about it today—for you to be able to trade your previously-played games online," Harrison said.

    I just sighed the biggest, saddest sigh.

    (via Kotaku)

    Update (5:22PM): [del]Apparently, Wired's original piece was incorrect. Xbox Support's Twitter account now says that there will be no fee associated with used games.
    No fee, correct - and they just got that information wrong. As soon as we saw, we contacted them to correct it.

    Whew! That's some really good news there.[/del]

    Original: Microsoft has confirmed that all Xbox One games will come with a mandatory installation onto the system's hard drive. In order to play the game on another system, you will have to install it to the other hard drive and pay a fee.

    Yes, that means used games are now an endangered species of the gaming world.
    Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.

    But what if a second person simply wanted to put the disc in and play the game without installing – and without paying extra? In other words, what happens to our traditional concept of a “used game”? This is a question for which Microsoft did not yet have an answer, and is surely something that game buyers (as well as renters and lenders) will want to know.

    Well, that's unfortunate.

    (via Wired)
  • Anarchy1
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    • Aug 2010
    • 1546

    #2
    I wonder if this will lead to increases in piracy for consoles.
    Battlelog/Origin ID - Hurricane043

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    • K-16
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      • Aug 2026
      • 2016

      #3
      ... [T]he new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.
      Wait what? I'm confused. Does this mean it's a copy and not a transfer? So if one person buys the game and is willing to part with the disc, could people simply pay the fee and install a copy of the game on their hard drives? Is the fee the price of the game itself?

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      • Shawn Zipay
        Managing Communities 24/7
        • Apr 2003
        • 69068

        #4
        So, at one point it sounds like there wasn't going to be a fee. Now Phil Harrison comes along and says, "LOL, screw you. Not only is there a fee, it's a full price fee!"

        Read the top most update.

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        • SgtMattBaker
          Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 1719

          #5
          That really does suck, I almost never bought used games, but my family/friends and I did lend each other's games.

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          • cikame
            Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 1799

            #6
            It's weird that you couldn't just sign in with your account at a friends house and have a functional game for that session, the future is in the cloud after all, it's also in the empty corners of my wallet apparently.

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            • Shawn Zipay
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              • Apr 2003
              • 69068

              #7
              It's possible that could work, but the wording on that seems to be that it's tied to account + system. If it's just account, it could work, but wait a minute, what if you're playing somewhere where you can't access the Internet? Looks like you're boned then.

              And if the download/syncing of profiles on the 360 is any indication of the Xbox One syncing, it might take a while to get things set up if you do happen to have Net access at the other place.

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              • Anarchy1
                Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 1546

                #8
                That's just silly.

                How many of you guys haven't taken a copy of a game over to someone else's house and played it with them (or had someone bring theirs to you)?

                And what happens if your console breaks and you have to get a new one? Do you have to repurchase all the games, because it would seem to me that the console would be treated as a new system that your account is logging into.
                Battlelog/Origin ID - Hurricane043

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                • Shawn Zipay
                  Managing Communities 24/7
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 69068

                  #9
                  Oh look, another update. :dumb:

                  Getting real tired of this massive clusterfuck of information. One part of MS says one thing, another says the opposite. Who the hell is right? I don't know!

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                  • Anarchy1
                    Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1546

                    #10
                    Wut
                    Battlelog/Origin ID - Hurricane043

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                    • nossirrah
                      Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 69

                      #11
                      no back catalog... no friday night game party with friends....sony must be laughing right now

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                      • K-16
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                        • Aug 2026
                        • 2016

                        #12
                        So to recap, Microsoft chose to spend their time during the reveal event to talk about (digital) terrestial television, Steven Spielberg, and a dog in a mo-cap suit? Meanwhile, the important questions consumers have are given with mixed and vague responses because they're reserved for E3? No wonder Microsoft representatives had to do the clapping and cheering in the back of the room. Considering they failed to spur others to cheer, couldn't they have gone the cheaper route and used a laugh track like a sitcom?

                        Really wished they clarified these pressing issues in the reveal event so we don't have to dig up the information and sort through the BS ourselves. By we, I of course mean poor Zips.

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                        • nemes1s3000

                          #13
                          A surge in piracy is imminent, and inevitable.

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                          • stilla-killa
                            CantGetRight
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 5905

                            #14
                            They will not be getting my money this generation. My prediction is that the new Xbox will lose out this go around.

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