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  • Shawn Zipay
    Managing Communities 24/7
    • Apr 2003
    • 69279

    #1

    Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

    In response to gaming site, Gameblog.fr, refusing to pull a story they had about Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 being confirmed by Amazon, Activision allegedly blacklisted the site and editors from attending future events.

    Gameblog had an article on their site that referenced other news sites and first hand accounts that Amazon France spilled the beans on Black Ops 2 coming this year. The confirmations from Amazon France came from a newsletter that several people had received and screen grabs from the website which were reported on by Gameblog. Pieces of information about Black Ops 2 included only the name of the game and a pre-order price of €69.99.

    In an interview with Kotaku, an editor with Gameblog, Grégory Szriftgiser, explained just what happened after the article went up and Activision's apparent extreme reaction to the piece.

    Our article was posted at 1:05 p.m. French time (that's CET). Activision first tried to call me at 2:16 p.m., but I couldn't answer, then sent an email (subject : "Pulling of a newspiece - URGENT") to both Julien and myself at 2:24 p.m., asking to "please take down the newspiece now", that "Activision didn't make any announcement", that "Amazon took upon themselves to publish this information without consulting [Activision]" and that it was "asked as a favor". I returned the phone call at 2:30 p.m., during which Activision asked the same thing, as a favor, insisting that this was a very serious matter to them for internal reasons they couldn't elaborate on and that the other major web outlets had already taken down their piece.

    I explained that I couldn't do this and why (mainly, that Activision didn't have any right to intervene in our editorial, that it was newsworthy to us, that our job was first and foremost to inform our readers, that the newspiece didn't argue that it was anything official on Activision's end, and was correctly phrased to reflect it, notably, with the question mark), at which point Activision argued that they were disappointed - they asked that we please consider it "with all the consequences this could lead to". I agreed to do so, told them I would get back to them later to give them my final decision. They were unreachable for the rest of the afternoon. After business hours, I had a short text conversation in which I re-stated that we wouldn't pull the article, and asked if we should consider ourselves blacklisted as a result. It was around 8:30 p.m., and Activision answered we would resume the conversation by phone the next morning.

    The newspiece stayed online untouched during the night.

    The next morning, we talked on the phone. They tried again to explain they needed us to pull the article, I refused again. They insisted again that it would seriously deteriorate the professional relationship we had, that we weren't fully aware of the consequences this could have, and that they had already contacted their Advertising Agency (which buys ad space for them). I asked them again if we should consider ourselves blacklisted, and more precisely if my journalist (another one) was still to attend the preview event of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron that was planned next week and to which we were already invited. Activision said no. They also made clear that the relationship was to be severed, all advertisement plans cancelled, games not sent, and invitations to later events cancelled as well. I explained that if this was their decision indeed, we had to inform our readers of it, and would do so later in the day.


    Other sites were contacted by Activision and the others complied with their request to take down the articles each had put up about Call of Duty: Black Ops 2.

    The twist with this story comes from the fact that when contacted for information, Activision stated that the company "doesn't blacklist journalists." They went on to say that they feel it's just a misunderstanding and are working towards a resolution.

    How would you guys here feel if we were requested to pull an article from our site at a company's request?
  • Iwantcable
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 2362

    #2
    Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

    I wouldn't care if it was something this trivial. Everybody already knew there was going to be another CoD this year.

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    • Stev0esque
      5t3v0 (I miss leetspeech)
      • Feb 2008
      • 6786

      #3
      Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

      Originally posted by Iwantcable
      I wouldn't care if it was something this trivial. Everybody already knew there was going to be another CoD this year.
      Well I think they want to keep an illusion that there may not be so the unwashed peasants go all crazy for demand.

      Doesnt matter though, I have a feeling that this one is going to flop. Even some of the people who thought I was dumb for liking BF3 over CoD are finding it boring now. Sadly, treyarch, who against popular opinion were the last shining bit of hope that the series had would get the blame for its demise though.

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      • Vreki
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 4226

        #4
        Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

        Originally posted by [MyIS]Zips
        How would you guys here feel if we were requested to pull an article from our site at a company's request?
        IMHO a article should only be pulled if it will cause a lot of damage to innoncent bystanders. E.g. describing exploits that could wreck a game if they become widespread.

        But in examples like this were they apparently fear how the customers will react when they get the information, then the customers need that information.
        Do EA plan to make BC3 peer-2-peer? Have activision made a deal to only support Nvidia cards? Will Diablo 3 be a FPS?

        They have the right to do that, but I will rather be informed from the start than experience a bait-and-switch a week before release like certain companies are fond of.

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        • CptainCrunch
          I am the 1%
          • Oct 2007
          • 12976

          #5
          Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

          News is news, good or bad. Like Vreki said, its information. I think an article should only be pulled if it has the potential to put individuals into harms way.

          I also think that if there is a game/map breaking flaw in a game that it should be published IF the developer continues to ignore the problem. The other side to that coin is the person who is going to publish such information should give the developer some realistic timeframe to fix the issue that has been presented to them.

          Sometimes a news site needs to stick to the news over the bad that may occur because of it. Look at all the review scores out there everyone mocks today because everyone knows their scores are purchased regardless of the truth of the game.
          Twitter: @CptainCrunch
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          • LunaTiK TunaLiK
            Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 923

            #6
            Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

            I think people are getting tired of getting the same game rebranded and changed a little and that worries Activision.

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            • K-16
              ...
              • Sep 2026
              • 2018

              #7
              If I was the developer/publisher/holder of the rights to the game, this would bother me a lot. While a press release or an answer to a Q & A can deny the existence of the title, or delay it ("we have nothing to announce at this time"), I would be upset if information gets leaked out to the public because the community would've already reacted to the product before the product even exists. The first impression would've been established and feedback (even if it's positive) towards the company's integrity and reputation would be given before I even get to share the news.

              The surprise is completely ruined because I have leaks in the company. This reminds me of the other time a developer was upset over a leak, and ended up announcing that it's official over twitter in a severely underwhelming way (I can't remember the title or who was upset back then). I think I would have trouble trusting or liking journalists if I was a developer/publi... Well, I already said it. I can't help but feel like an imaginary scenario where my best friends told my girlfriend how I will propose to her before I get to surprise her. Or announcing the baby's name to everybody, because they overheard my conversation with my wife in the hospital or something.

              In this case, it's more business and less personal as impressions do affect initial interest in the product (which is why some prefer to release media after polishing the completed portion of the product and not before, while others release teasers showing no in-game footage). I'm feeling conflicted to have a real answer as to whether or not a newspost should be removed... I don't feel it's as simple as a matter of whether or not the news will cause harm in the industry/community. I mean, leaking how one will propose to another isn't harmful is it? Or am I comparing apples and oranges here? I don't feel like I am...

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              • CptainCrunch
                I am the 1%
                • Oct 2007
                • 12976

                #8
                I dont think you are, but you are also comparing emotional personal news to a form of entertainment. If Zips posted up that you were going to propose before the proposal, that is harming you emotionally and is geared toward one specific person, not an entity.Also, Activision has made it very clear that they were making CoDs every year, switch dev teams through press releases and history of releases. If you proposed every Friday and then Zips posted that you are going to propose this Friday, should you be that upset?I get what you are saying and its a great post on the other side of this coin.
                Twitter: @CptainCrunch
                Battlelog/Origin: CptainCrunch

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                • Anarchy1
                  Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1546

                  #9
                  Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

                  I think you a stretching the comparison too much K-16. Is Black Ops 2 actually a surprise? We could have guessed the month and year it would come out when Black Ops 1 was first announced (let's see...all CoD games come out in November, Treyarch makes one every other year...bam November 2012).

                  Maybe if this was the first game or a brand new spin-off series or something actually suprising/interesting, it would be different, but this isn't.
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                  • K-16
                    ...
                    • Sep 2026
                    • 2018

                    #10
                    Hmm... Both of you make a valid point. I agree that the harm inflicted from leaking news depends on the frequency of the act in question, and my analogy has more potential harm due to its effect on an individual rather than a company, which makes it that much more irrelevant (I must've had a brain fart). I guess that was apples and oranges now that we got this clarified. Also, Activision ironically ended up confirming the next Call of Duty title with their recent actions of retaliation, so their choice of cover-up was... Ineffective to say the least.

                    In that case, I believe the original question needs a bit more information before we can choose sides in my opinion. Are we saying it's okay for articles to be pulled by request provided the franchise isn't used frequently? What about Battlefield 4 and Half-Life 3? Those franchsies are neither first of its kind, nor a brand new spin-off, but they share a low frequency of releases. Should the article removal requests be refused in those cases? I know I'm missing the point here, but I want to clarify the point the consensus have not only agreed upon, but also come to an understanding for both publishers/developers and the community. Did the publishers/developers overreact? Yes. Is the community ignoring the harm caused to publishers/developers? Depends on the franchise. That's what's I'm trying to clarify thus far, before settling on which side is "right" in order to answer the original main question....

                    Ahem... I'd better go and do something more productive (like preparing my tax returns) as I'm becoming very self-conscious of making pretentious posts and how I spent time being an armchair devil's advocate, all for the sake of attempting/failing to be unbiased. Yeah I'd better do my taxes before I fail at getting a life...

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                    • Stev0esque
                      5t3v0 (I miss leetspeech)
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 6786

                      #11
                      Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

                      Also, remember the last time News was held up until they wanted (AKA last minute?)

                      WE LOST FUCKING DEDICATED SERVERS WITHOUT KNOWING.

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                      • Vreki
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4226

                        #12
                        Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

                        Live by the sword, die by the sword. If anyone has been riding high on PR hype, it is Activision. So they have little right to complain when the wind is turning.
                        Also, I see an important difference between leaking information entrusted to you, and reporting info given you freely by someone else.
                        The one doing the leaking is a no-good bottom-feeder, but the news-industry has no obligation to keep it secret. Esepcially when the target is a frequent participant in the media circus.

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                        • CptainCrunch
                          I am the 1%
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 12976

                          #13
                          Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

                          K, I still think you have a very valid point though. We want to pick sides and people tend to pick sides that are in their favor. Activision, EA, all of them have millions or billions tied up in one title and a leak of certain types can greatly cause revenue loss, costing that money or jobs.

                          I think the more valid reasoning isnt who is right or wrong, but the situation at hand. If TGN had an article up and the publisher asked them to take it down and TGN said, OK, I think that is OK for TGN to do as a favor. It sucks for us and I wouldnt like that, but it is TGNs right to decide whats up and whats not. Now if TGN posts an article and instead they said no. That SHOULD be fine as well. What gives any publisher the right to "punish" a news group for releasing information? Even rumors should have a right to be published, though thats a bit risky for another reason.

                          When a publisher decides its going to "punish" someone because they are not stepping in line, its time to start thinking twice about that publisher and its products. Unfortunatly, I am sure all the publishers have done this, except probably Valve.
                          Twitter: @CptainCrunch
                          Battlelog/Origin: CptainCrunch

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                          • K-16
                            ...
                            • Sep 2026
                            • 2018

                            #14
                            Fair enough point. I guess my answer will then be "as long as the post clearly states that it's unofficial and/or a rumor, then it has a right to stay as publishers/developers have an opportunity to either deny or avoid commenting on non-confirmed news."

                            I still can't remember the previous time somebody did that, and had to later call everyone personally to apologize. As for VALVe, they only have to do one-liners on E-mail/Twitter. It's either "nothing to announce," "nope," or "no comment." Plus they have Doug Lombardi moderating the entire staff's comments (especially Newell's from my point of view).

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                            • RangerXML
                              [GEN]ヽ(`Д´)ノ[TRH]
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1753

                              #15
                              Re: Activision Allegedly Blacklists Gaming Site for Not Pulling Black Ops 2 Story

                              Blacklisting thing has already been revoked, guess Activision got a bit to much bad press. Check out some of 402 comments about DLC lately, I think his balls are pretty close to the chopping block if he is making comments bashing DLC and Subscriptions.

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