Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

[HowieMandel]

There has been ton written here even, regarding cheating.
In fact I started a thread a while ago, similiar to this one.
In that thread alot of folks, said that it probally just lag. Or the guy was simply better. In fact there were a ton of excuses. And really when you can come up with 1,000 excuses for something, thats suspect in its own right.
But any rate lets look at shear numbers.
By looking at the member numbers of a certain site, that sells hacks, well the number is around 700 or so. (perhaps higher, i stoped around 700.)
Ok, so 700 members. Lets say 600 bought the hack(s) 400 of them gave a friend the hack. (be real everyone but a few did, but i'll GIVE YOU skeptics the benefit of the doubt).
Ok so thats 1,000 people using undetected cheats. Now out of the 400, 150 gave to a friend. 1150 now. And so on and so on. Im just gonna come out and say about 1500 people are using cheats from this one source.
Now factor in the privateers. Ok, make it like 1700 people.
Factor in that people want full servers to use their cheats on. I mean......right?
Now.........is it really so hard to think there arnt 1 or 2 people hacking on your favorite server? Come on now, be real if you think no, its not possible.
Do you know how many respected, top notch killers in ALL games that towards the end, were found out to be noth8ing more then cheats? Believe me, its alot. A few in peticular for DC always had me thinking, man this guy is friggen tops man........just tops. 2 months later he was Master Banned by Punkbuster using a map hack. OOOk.
Anyways, back to my original question:
Is it hard to believe that while on a packed server, 1 or 2 people (or more) are using cheats ?

[Mr.White]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

Yes. I think you're paranoid. Those websites you talk about would be really pointless if you could just buy their hacks and send em over for free to all your friends. From what I hear, when you install one you can't share it as it registers for your computer only. I'm not saying nobody hacks, I'm just saying you should stop thinking and start playing. I was like you before, I used to blame some of my deaths on hacks... It's normal, I call that the "I've been on a hacking website" syndrom

[imported_cybercrow]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

^^wrong^^
after youve paid for the hack you can send it to as many people as you like an it WILL WORK!
ive brought a couple of the hacks an sent them to my clan m8 inwhich we try em out on a locked server,
we does this every time a hack comes out just ot see if we can see any thing that stands out.
to see what we're lookin for in game play to say yes hes hackin kick/ban him or just follow around takin pics to send in to pb.
all the hacks that i buy i send off to pb after we've tested em so they can put a stop it.
the only thing i find at the moment is that the msx hacks are full an i mean full of add ware an virus's which is a good thing as it stops people from using them.
theres a few more sites out there that use pure hacks that you cant tell are being used.
dont worry i will not say the sites.
ps dont even bother pm me askin for info on the site or if i can send you the hacks.

[imported_TheDragon]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

it is hard to give hacks away
they are registered to a user
and yes- they DO exist
and we now have multiple in game tests to catch them
and we catch them all the time
our favorite one is
I do not have wall hack - I use the UAV
and the Dumbass does not know it is our clan mate as commander

[moosehunter]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

I have noticed a few tims that I have bveen shot by a bloke with blue writing over his head, thus in the short time I have to look at what unifrom he's wearing he shoots me. Is this a hack where they can disguise themselves as a friendly.
These guys are just W*****s who are incapable of playing the game properly and have to resort to cheating. What they get out of it I'll never know, they may as well go and play the single player game.

[imported_cybercrow]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

it is hard to give hacks away
they are registered to a user
and yes- they DO exist
and we now have multiple in game tests to catch them
and we catch them all the time
our favorite one is
I do not have wall hack - I use the UAV
and the Dumbass does not know it is our clan mate as commander

they arent registered to the user read my earlyier post.
i send my hacks to my clan members so we can test em to see what were looking for.
there are even people selling hacks on ebay as i found out yesterday so this also tells you that the hacks arent regisitered t othe user only!

I have noticed a few tims that I have bveen shot by a bloke with blue writing over his head, thus in the short time I have to look at what unifrom he's wearing he shoots me. Is this a hack where they can disguise themselves as a friendly.
These guys are just W*****s who are incapable of playing the game properly and have to resort to cheating. What they get out of it I'll never know, they may as well go and play the single player game.

on the 7 hack sites that sell hacks you will not find this hack as its a bug thats been in bf2 from the start.
not a hack

[Eternal-Souljah]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3649141188840786715&q=battlefield+2+hack&pl=true

Still think hes paranoid?

[193d DCAT1]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

Using hacks is like an athlete taking steroids - You need to have some level of talent so that the steroids make you elite. A bad player with a map hack will only be an average player. I can see why athletes would take steroids, there is a good chance at fame and fortune in athletics. There is no chance of fame or fortune playing BF2 where we all hide behind anonymous internet names. Using hacks is for people with low self esteem - it makes them feel powerful. Making hacks is for geeks with nothing better to do and want a challenge.

What good are all the medals and ribbons and points if you cheated (I include stat padders here) to get them? They are meaningless. If you are an uber player with hacks you will be a good player using only the built-in hacks (UAV and scan).

[phen0m]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

I bet that footage was from a 5 ish hrs of playing and out of all those hrs he only came up with 3 minutes of decent looking footage. You need to realize that the aimbot sucks ass in bf2 because there is no retlock, no no recoil, and no lead. SO basically if you are not moving and standing still it is decent, if not then the aimbotter is going to to get ****ed.

[Eternal-Souljah]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

I bet that footage was from a 5 ish hrs of playing and out of all those hrs he only came up with 3 minutes of decent looking footage. You need to realize that the aimbot sucks ass in bf2 because there is no retlock, no no recoil, and no lead. SO basically if you are not moving and standing still it is decent, if not then the aimbotter is going to to get ****ed.

I know that, I was just posting so people can see how pointless yet useless it is. Sure it might give indication where people are but theres no challenge in that.

[18Zulukiller]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

It depresses the hell out of me knowing that there are gimps running around in game wit hcrap like that. Ahh well lets see them use that aim bot against me when im sat in a tank muahahahaha .

[HowieMandel]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

im not saying everyone is cheating..........
what my point of this post was.....

That there is now, really a very BIG chance, that over 1500 people are using hacks. I think that number is low, but i'll say 1500 people. What i was getting at was, when you figure out how many people are online and how many servers, to think that there isnt a cheater/hacker on the very server your playing on.....to think one is not there.....is silly. Therefore........that one guy on the server, that is going 43-1 without being in armor....without being in a plane/helo.....i mean its possible i suppose.
But i tend to think helo pilots/gunners and plane folks tend to use the skin/neon hacks more then infantry.

[Eternal-Souljah]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

im not saying everyone is cheating..........
what my point of this post was.....

That there is now, really a very BIG chance, that over 1500 people are using hacks. I think that number is low, but i'll say 1500 people. What i was getting at was, when you figure out how many people are online and how many servers, to think that there isnt a cheater/hacker on the very server your playing on.....to think one is not there.....is silly. Therefore........that one guy on the server, that is going 43-1 without being in armor....without being in a plane/helo.....i mean its possible i suppose.
But i tend to think helo pilots/gunners and plane folks tend to use the skin/neon hacks more then infantry.

No, usually pilots use their head, look at the map which map is getting taken over, uav, spotted, commander spotting etc.

Yes no doubt their is alot of cheaters, punkbuster only catches the detected cheats, you get people who make the hack and distribute it to their friends, not to the public, so that means they can hack without being detected because punkbuster can only scan what is in its database, take a look at pbbans.com and you will see the biggest bans is from SOF2, BF2 has like 12 or 13. Punkbuster can research, download the hacks which have been made public, then introduce them into their system so that if someone downloads that and uses it in a server with pb then they get caught and banned.

[stilla-killa]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

how did he shoot the guy through the fence in the video

[[UKNG]Tartan_Tar]

Re: Cheating. Was the last suspect death you got, suspect?

As an admin from Bf1942 to Bf2 , i have found there is no program like BFRM for BF2. if there was something that i can take a screenshot on what they see, this would help out PB by submitting these screen shots to them and getting them banned for life from Admined server.

I use Clanforge , which is the biggest waste of time , and its only use is kicking and banning, and it doesnt give you there user name just there key. so if someone comes back and asks for a lift , you have to ban everyone as there is no dates or names to do this.

Give us a program that allows admins to take these cheats and make gaming better....