That Magical Roll: The New Age Dolphin Dive?

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I realize that it's been in the game since day 1. I just wanted to know if any definitive proof had been discovered that it did or did not affect the likelihood that you'd be hit.

That's exactly what it does. See, if you're looking at someone doing the action-hero roll, it looks as though they are about as big as a crouched soldier, when in reality their hitbox is that of a prone soldier (since, technically, they are prone as is accurately reflected on their end). Basically, instead of aiming for the middle of the 'mass' (i.e. their body), aim for the bottom of the roll and you should hit them. Just think of them as a prone soldier and shoot them accordingly.

~Wolfgang

Good call, thanks.

[imported_SpungE]

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IT's the stupidest feature in the game. They're lying down and you see them rolling around, how are you supposed to hit them? The hitboxes dont even go with the animation they just go straight to the prone.

[zipp0r]

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no, it's a cheap a$$ tactic that needs nerfing :p

making their screen roll, WILL stop people from doing it

[Kayback]

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I also hate the way the gun is off like 90 degrees and you get killed. The weapon animations should follow the muzzle.

The number of times I've scooted past the baguy and am now standing beside him about to unload my second 12 guage shot into his back and I fall over dead.......

KBK

[old sch00l]

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That's exactly what it does. See, if you're looking at someone doing the action-hero roll, it looks as though they are about as big as a crouched soldier, when in reality their hitbox is that of a prone soldier (since, technically, they are prone as is accurately reflected on their end). Basically, instead of aiming for the middle of the 'mass' (i.e. their body), aim for the bottom of the roll and you should hit them. Just think of them as a prone soldier and shoot them accordingly.

~Wolfgang

ok, good point, the other side of the coin an all, but, it's being exploited and doesn't feel right. I know I can pratice until I perfect the counter balance but it's cheap tactic in the fist place.

the auto add feature is the don :)

making their screen roll, WILL stop people from doing it

who the hell wants their screen to roll, duh

[advancdDarkness]

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You people need to all stop complaining. YOU are ruining the game for everyone else. There are soooo many whiners playing this game. Shut your mouths and learn to play. Its like a bunch of women playing BF2.

[Rogue845]

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You people need to all stop complaining. YOU are ruining the game for everyone else. There are soooo many whiners playing this game. Shut your mouths and learn to play. Its like a bunch of women playing BF2.

If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything.

You are entitled to an opinion, but don't just slag people off.

[vbl]

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You people need to all stop complaining. YOU are ruining the game for everyone else. There are soooo many whiners playing this game. Shut your mouths and learn to play. Its like a bunch of women playing BF2.

Mmm, and actually I was just asking about the mechanics of the roll.

Hugs not drugs, man. Hugs... not drugs.

[IVfluids]

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with enough input from the community, pretty soon this will be a multiplayer sidescroll shooter, that way nobody can do anything more complex than crouch, jump or move in a 2d direction.

I never really had a problem with rollers, divers and hoppers. Either pkm them from a long distance or shove the dao up their ass. I guess I've been playing video games for so long that animations are kind of a trivial thing that I don't pay much attention to while playing.

[vbl]

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with enough input from the community, pretty soon this will be a multiplayer sidescroll shooter, that way nobody can do anything more complex than crouch, jump or move in a 2d direction.

I never really had a problem with rollers, divers and hoppers. Either pkm them from a long distance or shove the dao up their ass. I guess I've been playing video games for so long that animations are kind of a trivial thing that I don't pay much attention to while playing.

Except that we've found out that shooting at the top of the rolling player won't actually hit them because the hitbox is lower "a la" a prone player.

So whatever - this discussion is valuable.

[ARC|Noodles]

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It's disorientating though. I doubt people would like it. I don't know of many FPS games that implement complex moves like this in the first person camera. Even FEAR doesn't make your camera do crazy stuff when you throw kicks.

So then they'll be too busy barfing to try it again. Meanwhile, you've gone and stabbed their fool ass while they're busy n00b hurling all over their parents carpet :laugh:

[IVfluids]

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Except that we've found out that shooting at the top of the rolling player won't actually hit them because the hitbox is lower "a la" a prone player.

So whatever - this discussion is valuable.

And the shotgun fixes that problem just fine, so does the pkm.

I usually aim for where their feet should be anyways, which is what I was getting at. Mainly because when I played a game called Tactical Ops, there was a bug that when a person crouched, their hitbox sank into the ground and was only about half the height that it should have been. Been shooting like that for about 5 years or so because of that.

Besides, if you cant hit someone that is rolling (strafe proning) with the spread from the shotgun, your aiming has more issues than someone just rolling.

So whatever.

[sumguyhavinfun]

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they should make the roll real

[vbl]

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And the shotgun fixes that problem just fine, so does the pkm.

I usually aim for where their feet should be anyways, which is what I was getting at. Mainly because when I played a game called Tactical Ops, there was a bug that when a person crouched, their hitbox sank into the ground and was only about half the height that it should have been. Been shooting like that for about 5 years or so because of that.

Besides, if you cant hit someone that is rolling (strafe proning) with the spread from the shotgun, your aiming has more issues than someone just rolling.

So whatever.

Eh. My accuracy and gunplay are fine. Bottom line is that there are parts of the rolling model that simply cannot be hit, and that's good to know.

[xXgammaXx]

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Just play support and hold down the mouse button when you see one of these jerks

Just make sure you go prone or you might hit your teamate behind you.............and I am being serious '-'