1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

[Digital_101]

I've been seeing this pop up more and more often, and I'm starting to wonder if it's legit or not. I'll see someone flying solo in a chopper, I'll be in a moving tank, I see the chopper drift off backwards, nosing up, and then BOOM, TV guided to the face, with little to no correction. I thought

1) when you move from the pilot to the gunner's seat, the chopper IMMEDIATELY starts to lose power and drift off to the left or right, thus requiring huge corrections in the tv guided to keep the missile on target. Almost every time I see this happen, the nose is pointing up, but the missile comes LASER straight with almost no corrections. given the need for the TV view, I would think this is impossible.

2) When the chopper starts to drift, it loses a visual on the target; i.e., with the chopper drifting left/right, the tv camera view drifts the same way.. I was under the belief that once the tv window loses visual, you cannot "move" the missile back onto the original target as you can't "see" it on your tv screen. Correct/Incorrect?

3) I was also led to believe that a chopper cannot hover if there is no pilot in the pilot's seat; once you switch seats in the chopper it will cut power and drift no matter what. True/Untrue?

Just trying to clarify this, as I've had more than 1 person come to the server I play on and do this... just seems really dodgy to me. I apologize for the multiple questions in the single post, but any information that can be provided would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.

1stAir Cav Member/ Jr. Admin

Digital_101

PS: If anyone knows of a website that has a video or a way to confirm this can be done, I'd love to know where I can find it.

[SaladFork]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

If you're at the right angle, the chopper will hover for about 2-3 seconds, more than enough to switch and shoot. I can solo tv-guide pretty well, and it's very easy once you get the hang of it. I can usually go 25:1 k/d ratio on an average round in a chopper by myself.

Specifically, I point myself left of the target, about 25-30°, then right click and left click as fast as I can. Usually I'm going right at the target. From there, it's just point and click.

~Salad

[Ghilleman]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

Its completely legit. As saladfork said, all it requires is some skill and planning.

[imported_Casey]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

If you're at the right angle, the chopper will hover for about 2-3 seconds, more than enough to switch and shoot. I can solo tv-guide pretty well, and it's very easy once you get the hang of it. I can usually go 25:1 k/d ratio on an average round in a chopper by myself.

Specifically, I point myself left of the target, about 25-30°, then right click and left click as fast as I can. Usually I'm going right at the target. From there, it's just point and click.

~Salad

Same goes for jets too. Fly straight, jump to the gunners position, and fire away. Really easy tactic that garners tons of points.

[baggygreen]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

If you're able to get a competent gunner/pilot, you'll usually have a lot more success, however these are few and far between in pubs, so in the meantime i suggest going into the solo player, or a near empty server to practise.

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

Solo TV guiding is not all that hard and very possible with some practise.

[almanac]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

I've been seeing this pop up more and more often, and I'm starting to wonder if it's legit or not. I'll see someone flying solo in a chopper, I'll be in a moving tank, I see the chopper drift off backwards, nosing up, and then BOOM, TV guided to the face, with little to no correction. I thought

1) when you move from the pilot to the gunner's seat, the chopper IMMEDIATELY starts to lose power and drift off to the left or right, thus requiring huge corrections in the tv guided to keep the missile on target. Almost every time I see this happen, the nose is pointing up, but the missile comes LASER straight with almost no corrections. given the need for the TV view, I would think this is impossible.

2) When the chopper starts to drift, it loses a visual on the target; i.e., with the chopper drifting left/right, the tv camera view drifts the same way.. I was under the belief that once the tv window loses visual, you cannot "move" the missile back onto the original target as you can't "see" it on your tv screen. Correct/Incorrect?

3) I was also led to believe that a chopper cannot hover if there is no pilot in the pilot's seat; once you switch seats in the chopper it will cut power and drift no matter what. True/Untrue?

Just trying to clarify this, as I've had more than 1 person come to the server I play on and do this... just seems really dodgy to me. I apologize for the multiple questions in the single post, but any information that can be provided would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.

1stAir Cav Member/ Jr. Admin

Digital_101

PS: If anyone knows of a website that has a video or a way to confirm this can be done, I'd love to know where I can find it.

When you switch seats, you can fire the missile almost instantaneously (sp) with no interference from the turning of the chopper. So, yes they can get a straight shot on target if you time it correctly.

The key is really to be ready to fire right when you switch seats. If there is any delay, the gunner will have to adjust the missile due to the chopper spin (right). Given that EA reduced the range of the missile, you can't correct as much as before.

[Sloi sauce]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

If you want to observe it in action, I can show you how it's done...

Teamspeak makes it easier to explain as well.

[imported_qwerty]

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I keep the chopper level when i do it, so it spins to the right when you switch to gunner seat. So All I need to do is make the nose point to the left of my target, switch to gunner seat, right click, fire it off at my target, and make fine adjustments on the way and BOOM! They're dead. :)

It's easy on tanks, harder on choppers and especially jets. (I took out a jet once doing this )

[lostinspace]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

"
2) When the chopper starts to drift, it loses a visual on the target; i.e., with the chopper drifting left/right, the tv camera view drifts the same way.. I was under the belief that once the tv window loses visual, you cannot "move" the missile back onto the original target as you can't "see" it on your tv screen. Correct/Incorrect?
"

Once fired, the TV screen follows the missile...

[Alcorr]

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Yes, this is very easy, I do it all the time.

What you do is turn a bit to the left and then quick switch by pressing F2 and then right click and then left click.

Then just guide the missile and BOOM!

[Rez_K'awil]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

"
2) When the chopper starts to drift, it loses a visual on the target; i.e., with the chopper drifting left/right, the tv camera view drifts the same way.. I was under the belief that once the tv window loses visual, you cannot "move" the missile back onto the original target as you can't "see" it on your tv screen. Correct/Incorrect?
"

Once fired, the TV screen follows the missile...

No, you can turn the missle outside of the original TV window. The video feed is coming from the missle, not the tv on the heli.

[lostinspace]

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No, you can turn the missle outside of the original TV window. The video feed is coming from the missle, not the tv on the heli.

Lol, I think we both are a little hard to understand...

Hmmm...

Once fired, what you see on the TV screen, is the camera feed comming from the missile...

Perhaps that is more clear...

Otherwise, I give up

[Digital_101]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

Thanks for all the feedback. One of my original questions remains though... doing this, one would HAVE to make corrections... if almost every tv guided is near laser straight, even against moving targets, is that still legit, or might someone have an autoaimer working for them? Again, just trying to know what I'm up against. Thanks.

[Kattspya]

Re: 1 Shot TV Guide Kills? Looking for Confirmation/Clarification

Thanks for all the feedback. One of my original questions remains though... doing this, one would HAVE to make corrections... if almost every tv guided is near laser straight, even against moving targets, is that still legit, or might someone have an autoaimer working for them? Again, just trying to know what I'm up against. Thanks.

If you are moving consistently of course you can estimate where you would be when the helo hits. If they used autoaim it would still miss if you didn't move consistently or else there would be mid flight course corrections. It's also possible that the corrections are so small that you don't even notice them.