Revert to patch 1.12

[FierceTeapot]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

I agree with the original thread starter.... The skilled FPS players are seriously hating or bored of BF2. Now infantry combat is slow and dull, and if you aren't being shot by a tank or APC, you turn a corner and get mowed down by someone lying at your feet using a PKM.

I have reasonable skill. I play AT and try my best to destroy tanks/apcs. But when half of the other side is using the PKM at varying ranges it makes moving anywhere impossible. Its too accurate and too powerful. The worst part about PKM use since 1.2 is that now they just go instantly prone right at your feet and in 2-3 shots (which you probably can't even hear) you die. Before 1.2, if someone went prone right next to me they were dead - but now due to a slower feel to the game and the PKMs stupid power/accuracy, I get owned.

In fact, the only way to beat the PKMs is to go PKM. And when a game turns into that, its not balanced. It needs a nerf - but sadly 1.21 didn't do that.

If I have a delay when switching from AT rocket to my MP5 (to unfold the butt) then why dont PKM users have a delay when they go prone? I mean, it would stop all this instant proning by PKM users.

[imported_Phenomenomenon]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

How is a online multiplayer game "dummed down" or "made esier" when the changes effect everyone globally. Tell me exactly how is skill removed an a level field of play?

Their are going to be people at the top and the bottom of the scoreboard. What separates them, if not skill, all things being equal.

[evilzucchini]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

Oh lordy.

So Whiny.

The game hasn't gotten easier. What happened was that it changed and you didn't/couldn't adapt and so, instead of taking responsibility for sucking, you whine that it is the patch's fault.

Give it a rest. Really, nothing has changed except for the fact that 'skilled' players can't hop around anymore. I mean, seriously, how hard was it to make a keyboard macro to do the dolphin dive. A whole two minutes of work outside the game to become a more 'skilled' player. LMFAO!

And bunny hopping was no different. Pressing the space bar over and over doesn't take any skill. Well, maybe it is difficult for you, I don't know. . . but it didn't seem that hard to me.

The fact of the matter is that the game changed. Deal with it. It is still, for all intents and purposes, the same game. In fact, I think it feels more real now as I don't see a bunch of people jumping 8 feet in the air all over the place.

It is a new set of challenges, any good gamer can adapt. If you can't adapt, that is YOUR fault. However, the game play changes made by this patch were good (with maybe the exception of the PKM being overpowered. . . but whatever, the GL was overpowered before. . . just a different weapon to adjust to. I can't speak about air plane piloting because I didn't do much pre or post patch).

Seriously, lrn2adapt. it's not that difficult. I do pretty much the same as I did before the patch, I just adjusted my play style a bit.

[Jlspence]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

No, let's not.

[FierceTeapot]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

How is a online multiplayer game "dummed down" or "made esier" when the changes effect everyone globally. Tell me exactly how is skill removed an a level field of play?

Their are going to be people at the top and the bottom of the scoreboard. What separates them, if not skill, all things being equal.

I'll tell you how.

I play with the standard AT kit. I use the submachine guns everyone hates so much as part of the challenge.. Yet, before 1.2 I would be top 5 in any game of reasonably skilled players, consistently. I could do this with or without a tank.

Since 1.2, if I dont have a tank, its a mission to get anywhere near the top 5 when playing standard AT on a server full of reasonable players. Even on a server with crap players on, if they go prone and start spamming their PKM at me, Im dead or as good as.

Thus the game has become about tanks, apcs and PKMs. And not so much about skill, because I rarely come across anyone who plays standard AT or even DA0 AT and scores well... I did, before 1.2. Now I don't. So I've suddenly become crap? Errr, no. Or have all the 'nooby' players been empowered to a point that is unfair?

Sure I could adapt and play PKM. But I don't want to, as really, playing a game is not about everyone using the most powerful weapon. There should be no weapon in any balanced game that is so easy to kill with.

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

I'll tell you how.

I play with the standard AT kit. I use the submachine guns everyone hates so much as part of the challenge.. Yet, before 1.2 I would be top 5 in any game of reasonably skilled players, consistently. I could do this with or without a tank.

Since 1.2, if I dont have a tank, its a mission to get anywhere near the top 5 when playing standard AT on a server full of reasonable players. Even on a server with crap players on, if they go prone and start spamming their PKM at me, Im dead or as good as.

Thus the game has become about tanks, apcs and PKMs. And not so much about skill, because I rarely come across anyone who plays standard AT or even DA0 AT and scores well... I did, before 1.2. Now I don't. So I've suddenly become crap? Errr, no. Or have all the 'nooby' players been empowered to a point that is unfair?

Sure I could adapt and play PKM. But I don't want to, as really, playing a game is not about everyone using the most powerful weapon. There should be no weapon in any balanced game that is so easy to kill with.

I am still doing fine with Mp7, maybe they changed it so PKM actually hits now?

[x.Dead_Eye_42.x]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

amen to that, evilzucchini!!!

[FierceTeapot]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

I am still doing fine with Mp7, maybe they changed it so PKM actually hits now?

MP5 i think you mean.

Im not an engineer.

[claevade]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

Indeed all quit or play 1.0 please, find some 1.0 servers and stay on it.

Then I will play the game with people who still love the game and don't whine about it. I am all up for that :) . I seriously don't care about the patches nor do I think they made it worse. I have been playing the Battlefield Series from the start and am still getting my 1st places and enjoy myself, no patch will change that.

[Keith Maniac]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

Oh so heroic martyr going down! All bow before mighty Real_CaGeD!!!

But seriously, I hope ALL the patch whiners would be like you. Well at least untill you come back and start whining about why people won't return to 1.12...

[BoxiouS]

Re: Revert to patch 1.12

lol sig^^