Is the Essex gun balanced?

[Alcorr]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

Another thing, Alcor, that you're missing... typically when the US only has the carrier, the opposing team has bases with mobile AA which are just as powerful - if not more - than Essex's AA Batteries...

Umm take my two main examples.

Oman and wake.

In neither case is there any mobile AA. Not to mention the mobile AA can't be insta fixed/created nor does it have unlimited missile count....

its fine, u just need to fly smarter IMO

perhaps we should talk about its balance in comparison to its ease to take out water-borne objects.

Thats not what im talking about, here is my main point:

Im talking about USMC jets baseraping the chinese/mec airfield at will mainly killing jets and people waiting in line for jets while at the same time its 50X harder for chinese/mec players to do the same to the USMC side.

[Alcorr]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

Aye... you missed my point when I said #1... I wasn't saying that you should say it like that... I was killed by a Mk-29 Sea Sparrow Launcher... I was saying that people were being a bit ignorant by saying things like, "Omg , I 'm not a flyer but it's freaking easy to take a essex out..." or in another post, "Commanders need to stop sitting in an essex because they keep getting killed..." You can call me anal... maybe I am. I'm just saying to call them "guns" or "AA Units" or the like. The guns themselves are not called "Essex"... Thats all... Sorry for the confusion... I didn't expect every weapon to be explicitly named, I just expected people to realize that the GUNS aren't called "Essex" but the SHIP is called "Essex".

Well OBVIOUSLY they aren't called essexs. Everyone calls them that because its an easy reference to an in game term.

exactly... I will say that with the ability to hide the Linebacker and it's MEC/Chinese equivalent in an inconspicuous location, it is arguably a MORE powerful Anti-Aircraft weapon than the Essex's AA Batteries...

As I said before, there aren't any mobile AA platforms on wake nor on Oman.

why should it be balanced to the stinger?

Because they are both defending the same thing except one is much more powerful than the other.

[Maverick2201]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

OK... I suppose I agree with you then... I haven't been addressing your original post about balance between carrier defense and airbase defense. In THAT regard, you're correct in saying that the carrier has more defense mechanisms than the MEC airbases, however, the USMC planes have more land to fly over with *potentially* more AA sites than just the ones AT the MEC airbase... On the other hand, I don't think it should be possible to drop bombs from a fighter on either the carrier or the airbase. An army's central command post should be *VERY* well defended, whether it be the USMC or the MEC. So yes, to address your original post, I agree with you. The defenses on the MEC airbase ought to be equally as powerful as the defenses on the carrier, in the spirit of a balanced game. Of course, in reality, the MEC defenses are going to be less sophisticated and therefore less effective than USMC defenses; but this is a game. I have, on the other hand, *VERY* rarely seen the MEC airbases get raped as USMC troops are often too preoccupied with trying to take flagpoints while I see the carrier get raped with DISGUSTING regularity... so who knows...

[Digital-Boy]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

Too hard to kill? If anything, the Phalanx is too flimsy.

[Alcorr]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

OK... I suppose I agree with you then... I haven't been addressing your original post about balance between carrier defense and airbase defense. In THAT regard, you're correct in saying that the carrier has more defense mechanisms than the MEC airbases, however, the USMC planes have more land to fly over with *potentially* more AA sites than just the ones AT the MEC airbase... On the other hand, I don't think it should be possible to drop bombs from a fighter on either the carrier or the airbase. An army's central command post should be *VERY* well defended, whether it be the USMC or the MEC. So yes, to address your original post, I agree with you. The defenses on the MEC airbase ought to be equally as powerful as the defenses on the carrier, in the spirit of a balanced game. Of course, in reality, the MEC defenses are going to be less sophisticated and therefore less effective than USMC defenses; but this is a game. I have, on the other hand, *VERY* rarely seen the MEC airbases get raped as USMC troops are often too preoccupied with trying to take flagpoints while I see the carrier get raped with DISGUSTING regularity... so who knows...

Although not as often as the Carrier, the Chinese/MEC base is often r@ped pretty bad as well, at least from what ive seen.

And as far as the points in between....well the pilots just fly around them...

And then kill the main stinger and r@pe the rest of the round.

Too hard to kill? If anything, the Phalanx is too flimsy.

WTF? Phalanx?

[WarGimp]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

WTF? Phalanx?

That's the name of the gun portion of the Essex's AA system.
In the real world, they are 100% computer controlled.

[Paas]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

On the other hand, I don't think it should be possible to drop bombs from a fighter on either the carrier or the airbase.

Personally, I don't think Fighters should have bombs. Bombers should be doing all of the bombing, fighters should be protecting their bomber. If they need to take out anything they can just put cannons on the ground. They work well enough.

{WP}Paas

[Harpoon84]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

I think the Essex AA turret should have more armor, right now a good pilot can swoop in from high on an unexpected angle and destroy it with the cannons before you can even turn the AA turret towards him.

Though it has to be said, while a lone Essex AA can be easy pickings, if both the Essex AA's are manned then it can be a nightmare for the pilot. You may be able to destroy one but chances are the 2nd one will nail you. It's all about teamwork.

[Alcorr]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

Though it has to be said, while a lone Essex AA can be easy pickings, if both the Essex AA's are manned then it can be a nightmare for the pilot. You may be able to destroy one but chances are the 2nd one will nail you. It's all about teamwork.

Thats exactly my problem lately. However, when flying as USMC...no problem exists when R@ping the enemy airfield.

[zacman13245]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

they are different weapons, they both have AA capabilities but the Essex needs to be more powerful

[WarGimp]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

Naw.. they need to replace those turrets with these:

http://media.putfile.com/19696

[Alcorr]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

they are different weapons, they both have AA capabilities but the Essex needs to be more powerful

Wow, you obviously didn't read much of this thread did you?

Naw.. they need to replace those turrets with these:
http://media.putfile.com/19696

Does that even exist? It doesn't does it?

[Alcorr]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

Wait, nvm I saw ur other post.

[Virtus2]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

Well usually the Essex is on a map where the U.S have little option of moving. meaning they spawn on a ship surrounded by ocean that is just calling for aircraft. Like Wake the chinese have other options of spawning meaning they are not sitting ducks like the U.S end up being. Theyre is more baseraping on the carrier too because of how small it is so you can kill more people way faster. Think of how big the MEC airstrip is on Oman You have 2 different spawn points for the helos and planes.

[Alcorr]

Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

Well usually the Essex is on a map where the U.S have little option of moving. meaning they spawn on a ship surrounded by ocean that is just calling for aircraft. Like Wake the chinese have other options of spawning meaning they are not sitting ducks like the U.S end up being. Theyre is more baseraping on the carrier too because of how small it is so you can kill more people way faster. Think of how big the MEC airstrip is on Oman You have 2 different spawn points for the helos and planes.

True, but this game isn't about hiding. How many chinese when teh round starts off go and hide at random spawns on wake?

Not many.

Most grab tanks or FAVs and go to both beach endings and blast away while the others wait for vehicles to spawn at the main base.

Now I understand that is more spreading out than the USMC can do on their carrier.

That is why I don't think the airfield should have as strong of defense as carrier.

Im just asking for ONE more stinger....2 stingers total vs. 2 essex guns....