Is the Essex gun balanced?

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  • Alcorr

    #1

    Is the Essex gun balanced?

    Ok, I was wondering if you guys think that the essex gun is balanced.

    That is, in comparison to the Stinger that the side that spawns on the land uses....

    I don't have official numbers but:

    Essex-

    -Highly armored in comparison to stinger
    -8 missiles
    -Poweful cannon
    -Wide fields of fire
    -If destroyed has a timer to respawn and can be repaired back to life
    -Takes about 5 seconds of jet cannon fire to destroy

    Stinger-

    -Zero armor
    -2 missiles
    -No cannon
    -Sometimes small fields of fire.
    -If destroyed, has a timer to respawn
    -Takes about 1 second of jet cannon fire to destroy

    Is that balanced to you?

    Personally I think that it should take less time to destroy i.e. less HP.
  • Terroser

    #2
    Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

    Originally posted by Alcorr
    Ok, I was wondering if you guys think that the essex gun is balanced.

    That is, in comparison to the Stinger that the side that spawns on the land uses....

    I don't have official numbers but:

    Essex-

    -Highly armored in comparison to stinger
    -8 missiles
    -Poweful cannon
    -Wide fields of fire
    -If destroyed has a timer to respawn and can be repaired back to life
    -Takes about 5 seconds of jet cannon fire to destroy

    Stinger-

    -Zero armor
    -2 missiles
    -No cannon
    -Sometimes small fields of fire.
    -If destroyed, has a timer to respawn
    -Takes about 1 second of jet cannon fire to destroy

    Is that balanced to you?

    Personally I think that it should take less time to destroy i.e. less HP.
    Omg , I 'm not a flyer but it's freaking easy to take a essex out!

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    • thecheat

      #3
      Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

      Well think about it though, you don't HAVE to fly out to the U.S. carrier but you DO have to be around the other flags on land. I think that's where it's balanced.

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      • Alcorr

        #4
        Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

        Umm since you are'nt a flyer obviously you can't say that as thats the only thing the essex actually fights.

        Unless theres baseraping going on or you are playing on Iron Gator but im not talking about that.

        5-7 seconds to take out an essex gun using a fighter.
        The essex takes you out in about 1...using its cannon not to mention it has 8 missiles.

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        • rombaft

          #5
          Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

          The US ESSEX is always on a main base wich is also uncabable, so enemy jets shouldn't be there in the first place .

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          • Alcorr

            #6
            Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

            Well think about it though, you don't HAVE to fly out to the U.S. carrier but you DO have to be around the other flags on land. I think that's where it's balanced.
            But theres two reasons why that doesn't apply.

            One is when the land side holds all flags on the land and how many pilots just fly around waiting for a flag to be decapped? I don't im going to go fight.

            The second is that the US jets can just purely r@pe the airfield spawns on land even while everyone on the other team are firing stingers at them.

            Thats the thing.

            US jets don't have nearly as much AA opposition on the ground at airfields as Chinese/MEC jets have attacking the Essex.

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            • Alcorr

              #7
              Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

              The US ESSEX is always on a main base wich is also uncabable, so enemy jets shouldn't be there in the first place .
              But I just posted about that in my above post.

              Im not going to just fly around waiting for the US team to do something.

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              • ARC|Noodles

                #8
                Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

                It's there to deter baseraping assbags who love to fly over and bomb the flight deck.

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                • Eden

                  #9
                  Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

                  Man you need to do your research, the AA gun on the carrier is called a Phalanx CIWS

                  The one on the carrier is compleatly unrealistic. For onw thing the Phalanx CIWS is unmaned radar assisted Anti-Ship missle defence system.

                  The US should have used the Goal keeper.

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                  • cemmyz

                    #10
                    Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

                    its easy to take the essex gun out and also easy not to shot down by it. on the SF maps it is only really of use during the initial stages, also it needs to have some extra firepower otherwise the carrier just gets spammed from the air.

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                    • Talus
                      Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6854

                      #11
                      Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

                      If anything the Essex AA battery should be MORE powerful. The phalanx guns can't seem to outgun a jet.

                      Basically, if the Essex AA is manned, then jets shouldn't stand a chance and should steer clear of the carrier. Most of the time, nobody mans the Essex AA because they know a short burst from a jet's cannons and they're toast...that and APCs can even take them out from ashore.

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                      • The Soup Nazi

                        #12
                        Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

                        Alcorr, you forgot to metion the fact that enemy infantry cannot enter the AA on the USMC carrier. Sure, that cuts down on carrier raping, but that's just another point of why the USMC AA is far superior to Stingers and Iglas.

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                        • TGL|Badlizzard
                          TGL Anti-Cheat Director
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1380

                          #13
                          Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

                          It is much better in the new patch but, still should be more powerful. It should have the armor value of a BTR. Hopefully they will fix the miss_iles in 1.21

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                          • Flares

                            #14
                            Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

                            The Essex gun is not balanced against Stinger/Igla sites however there are usually more Igla sites on land and therefore more opportunities for the MEC/Chinese to shoot you down... I do think the Essex gun should have a simple radar. If you're looking the wrong way at a given moment, a pilot can take you out in a few seconds, leaving potentially a whole team to the mercy of a J10... Make enemy aircraft within a certain range visible on the Essex anti air operator's mini map.

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                            • tcp1

                              #15
                              Re: Is the Essex gun balanced?

                              It should be harder to kill. Its dies too easy. I mean you are attacking an aircraft carrier with just one little jet.

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