Punishing for accidental AA TK are ppl stupid?

[DarkShot]

Re: Punishing for accidental AA TK are ppl stupid?

now that aa is deadly, all u gotta do is not fire until the enemy has flared , simple. just fire 1 or 2 aa missiles, if u spam them u will always kill teammates and u will be punished accordingly. do not fire while the enemy is flaring u are a moron and should be punished.

[Jofaba]

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I wouldn't say "you are a moron" becaused it's something we've all learned together and possibly at different time,s but thanks for the information. IT's a good tactic and maybe someo of us can reduce TK's using it until 1.12 comes out or forever how long the "problem" lasts.

[« R²» P§I]

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I often punish for AA teamkills. Why? If I'm chasing an enemy jet and am within 30m of him, you should NOT be shooting missiles at him. Especially if you're directly behind me. Why? because they hit me, and they kill me.

GG, punished.

~Salad

Thats ignorant, reason being AA or A2A missiles have no control where they go. I get team damage and TK's and i see no friendlies. It happens all the time.
TK punish is really for intentional TK's. People need to learn what the punishment is for.

And dont say that crap about the flares either I've shot missles and seen them bounce off the jets with no damage, and hit a team mate. Thats after they deploy the flares

[imported_John-Paul]

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Wasn't there a python script floating around somewhere that enabled servers to remove the PTK option for accidental AA teamkills? In other words, if you're teamkilled by AA missiles, you're simply deprived of the option to punish, which makes a lot of sense.

After all, it's not all that easy to deliberately kill teammates with the AA missiles. You need fairly specific circumstances and even then you need luck to achieve the kill ... Most griefers don't have the patience for that kind of thing.

I'd love to see that implemented. I got kicked for one too many punishes just yesterday on Kubra Damn, and four of them were the result of errant AA missiles despite the fact I'd been extremely cautious in their use. By that stage, I'd racked up almost 90 points and was at least 25 in the clear of the person coming second, so I missed out on a certain gold. :cry:

Nothing to lose sleep over but still! Kind of annoying. Punishing teammates for their recklessness is one thing (in certain situations, it is useful and helps them learn) but punishing them for the unpredictable behaviour of AA missiles is just lame.

[Chris_Redfield]

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I say good riddance, cut the missile spam ******** and actually think your shots through.

[tsh2005]

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AA has some bugs. And it now seems to go after friendlies more and more often.

Notice if you fly a jet or a heli sometimes you get a quick 1 sec warning then a hit from the AA?? AA misses something else then goes for you so you get almost no warnings

Last game I played on Mashtuur city at the start of the game... I fired at the mec transport heli... The AA missiles went in circles around them until it fired off all the way across the other side of the map to the usa heli and I got 5 tks

It should unlock itself at a certain point

[Senap]

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ARE PPL STUPID????

Yes.

You'd have to go to CS servers to find people more stupid than BF2 players

[cky05]

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i never heard from accident AA & TK but there r player keep killing teammate.
if there r too many teamkill i will pull out that server and find other because i dont want the stat to be seen as "number of times deaths"

so yes player are STUPID!!!!!! (only if they do teamkilling)

[The Soup Nazi]

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Thats ignorant, reason being AA or A2A missiles have no control where they go. I get team damage and TK's and i see no friendlies. It happens all the time.
TK punish is really for intentional TK's. People need to learn what the punishment is for.

AA works very well if you know when to fire it. If you fire at a jet that's flying East/West while you're facing North/South, you're most certainly running the risk of the AA missing its target. You'll find that AA seems to be most effective while firing at jets that are flying away from you. This is how jets could be taken down with 1.12.

And dont say that crap about the flares either I've shot missles and seen them bounce off the jets with no damage, and hit a team mate. Thats after they deploy the flares

I see this, too- and more often than I care to. If you fire missiles from short to medium range and your target is not making an attempt to out-manuever the missiles, they will "bounce" off your target and fly towards the next nearest friendly transport chopper. If you are in longer range and see that they are flying evasively and there aren't any nearby friendlies, let loose with the missiles. Otherwise, stick to the mounted cannon. It's far more precise when you get used to using it.

[imported_PUMPKINHEAD]

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Ive had the same problem the last 3 days of being kicked due to the AA missles taking out friendlys accidentally. Then they turn around and punish you for it which makes no sense to me. If you kill someone on your team you automatically lose 6 points regardless if they punish you or not.

[The Soup Nazi]

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Ive had the same problem the last 3 days of being kicked due to the AA missles taking out friendlys accidentally. Then they turn around and punish you for it which makes no sense to me. If you kill someone on your team you automatically lose 6 points regardless if they punish you or not.

I believe you mean 4 points, not 6.

[« R²» P§I]

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I see this, too- and more often than I care to. If you fire missiles from short to medium range and your target is not making an attempt to out-manuever the missiles, they will "bounce" off your target and fly towards the next nearest friendly transport chopper. If you are in longer range and see that they are flying evasively and there aren't any nearby friendlies, let loose with the missiles. Otherwise, stick to the mounted cannon. It's far more precise when you get used to using it.

Yeah that is what i have been doing, cause Im tired of shooting once or twice after flares have dropped, just for them to bounce off and hit a friendly.

[imported_PUMPKINHEAD]

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Ok 4 then my bad.

[cky05]

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also other player driving the transport and the teammate on purpose walk on front of their car and got killed then they punish them.

it happen to me all the time, i keep change the server if there are no STUPID PEOPLE!!!!! and make me feel better.

[Flatline_hun]

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If I fight a chopper battle with the other chopper, and you shoot AA, he uses his flares, and I'm dead, well, of course I'll punish you. It's your fault.

On the other way, when I'm trying to take off from the carrier, you shoot at an incoming fighter, the AA missiles take U-turn, and hit me, I won't punish.

Simply said: if I feel it is your error/negligence/berserk need for kill that got me killed, I punish. If it's an accident, I won't.