Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

[Alcorr]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

Either way, ground AA and ATA is messed up....

[LoKi.]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

You lie!

Amusing to notice that despire your claim, you did a look back and clearly showed you were in fact flying an F-18 (at least during that part of the clip).

Would you care to feed the community another helping of self indulgent BS?
:p

Probably bailed his J-10 when it had no ammo and U.S. had the airfield and took the F-18 which had full Ammo.

Is it that complicated you cant get your head round it ?

70 - 0 is very easily possible in 1.2 ive had 62 - 0 and nexars had 92 - 0

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

I just like PW's uncanny ability to ignore every cogent argument against him in favor of blindly spilling his usual, single-minded nonsense. He must be a car salesman in real life.

In all the arguments between PW and many other I have yet to see someone go against his arguments rather than his personality.

Oh boy you must be a professional bull****ter. They do pay good, dont they?

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

Probably bailed his J-10 when it had no ammo and U.S. had the airfield and took the F-18 which had full Ammo.

Is it that complicated you cant get your head round it ?

70 - 0 is very easily possible in 1.2 ive had 62 - 0 and nexars had 92 - 0

That woudlnt be a surprise knowing that PW wastes his MG ammo by far more then I have ever seen.

[LoKi.]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

PW is more skilled than any of us as the video shows and he also is more intelligent than any of us, simply because he doesnt waste his time arguing with morons about this game on this forum unlike the rest of us

[vbl]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

In all the arguments between PW and many other I have yet to see someone go against his arguments rather than his personality.

Oh boy you must be a professional bull****ter. They do pay good, dont they?

His personality becomes an issue when it gets in the way of having an objective conversation devoid of his unwillingness to adjust his mindset. I replied with a reasonable question and have gotten nothing worthwhile in response.

Planewhore is obsessed with a world where dogfighting is an extended affair. That's not BF2 now, and I'm sorry if they misled him in previous versions of the game. I don't get to have 15 minutes fights on the ground where I get to parry, dodge, and riposte with my rapier. We use bullets. People die fast. Planes use missiles. They should die fast too.

The challenge and point of distinction has become positioning and initiative, not "skill shooting a guided missile" (which is a ridiculous concept anyway).

(I had a comment here about you having your tongue up his ass all the time, but I removed it because it was just inflammatory)

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

He is obsessed with a world where dogfighting is an extended affair. That's not BF2 now, and I'm sorry if they misled him in previous versions of the game. I don't get to have 15 minutes fights on the ground where I get to parry, dodge, and riposte with my rapier. We use bullets. People die fast. Planes use missiles. They should die fast too.

Youve got 56 and less people on the ground, 4 in air in dogfights. Proportions even suggest that dogfights can NOT be compared to the ground fights.

The challenge and point of distinction has become positioning and initiative, not "skill shooting a guided missile" (which is a ridiculous concept anyway).

Had become, indeed. But shouldnt, as a player with the initiative wins, if he can maneuver the jet at least to a level allowing him to keep a lock.
Its not the skills in shooting only. Youre ignoring the point or youve never used a missile in a dogfight- its everything you do up until the launch thats skills. Timing and maneuvering being one of them.

(I had a comment here about you having your tongue up his ass all the time, but I removed it because it was just inflammatory)

I actually find it quite funny that youre in the overall gang-bangery that just throws some random spam towards a member just to be in the pack.

The only thing that PW does wrong in the forums is hes being blatantly honest. Most of us, although thinking were the "****", dont say this in public. Most of us are modest. He isnt. But he was never patronizing, offensive, retarded as most of the people against him seem to be.
I judge him by hos forum posts and his 2 videos, and he looks to be a far better man than most of his opposition.

But hey, if you want to be the cool kid, variable, and enjoy the overall pack mentality that makes you look like a kid and render your arguments invalid, go ahead. Im not stoping you.

[WarGimp]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

The only thing that PW does wrong in the forums is hes being blatantly honest. Most of us, although thinking were the "****", dont say this in public. Most of us are modest. He isnt. But he was never patronizing, offensive, retarded as most of the people against him seem to be.

Sorry, but...
BWAAAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

This is a guy who publicly stated that the changes to AA were made beacuse of him. This is a guy who never conceeds a valid point made by others. This is a guy who's ego is so increadibly massive that it's nothing short of a mental disorder.

All other comments and arguments aside, this quote is just too damned funny.

[« R²» HKS]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

SIgh.....just not true.

Ground AA is a joke vs choppers. There is zero hope, they never miss...ever....

So you say...fly low then!

Ok great so two options.

Use my superior skill to fly below the AA and so kill nothing...meh.

Or fly so I can kill stuff and be shot down by some noob who did nothing more than left click twice....

Meh....what a PERFECT solution to AA.....

Give the noobs autokilling stingers where all you have to do is left click, not even in the general direction, the missiles are so smart....LOL

Ground to Air needs to involve skill, perhaps a person guiding the missile most of the way to the target, then the missile locks on....

It wouldn't be so bad had they not lowered hp on choppers.

And planewhore is correct about jets as well.



Thats the thing, you drop flares and thats all you can do....if you turn, so does he, you make wild turns...it doesn't matter...the missiles are so accuracte you will never live.

Either way, ground AA and ATA is messed up....

Amen to that brother.

Its quite obvious the point PW is making. By improving the S2A its auto improves the A2A. I'm sure PW would like more of a challenge in relation to taking out helis. Most of the time he gunned them down in 1-2 secs and didn't waste his insta kill A2A and saved them for planes.

I'm sure 1.12 and before even PW would have had a hard time taking me down in a heli. It would have been a challenge not a "sure thing" as it is now. Thanks for the plug for the heli pilots PW, it might be harder in a plane now with the AA but its a nightmare for us heli whores.

What DICE needs to do is separate the AA code so that S2A and A2A are different because in effect the planes whilst having to worry about S2A and A2A it still has made them stronger against helis with helis having no chance whatsoever against a plane now whereas before we had a chance of evading them.

[Alcorr]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

Its quite obvious the point PW is making. By improving the S2A its auto improves the A2A. I'm sure PW would like more of a challenge in relation to taking out helis. Most of the time he gunned them down in 1-2 secs and didn't waste his insta kill A2A and saved them for planes.

I'm sure 1.12 and before even PW would have had a hard time taking me down in a heli. It would have been a challenge not a "sure thing" as it is now. Thanks for the plug for the heli pilots PW, it might be harder in a plane now with the AA but its a nightmare for us heli whores.

What DICE needs to do is separate the AA code so that S2A and A2A are different because in effect the planes whilst having to worry about S2A and A2A it still has made them stronger against helis with helis having no chance whatsoever against a plane now whereas before we had a chance of evading them.

Exactly.

In the effort to fix jets, dice screwed over previously balanced choppers and the jets are still owning the ground people...nothing changed there.

But we have two new problems.

Jet A2A is stupid.
Choppers are so hopeless...

If you couldn't take down a 1.12 chopper with moderate effort then you have no skill.

Sorry, thats the truth.

[vbl]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

...enjoy the overall pack mentality that makes you look like a kid and render your arguments invalid, go ahead. Im not stoping you.

I don't do pack mentality. My arguments are my own.

Near as I can tell, it still takes skill to survive in the air and expert pilots are differentiated from novices. So what's the problem?

[Alcorr]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

Near as I can tell, it still takes skill to survive in the air and expert pilots are differentiated from novices. So what's the problem?

Look I don't fly jets very often but il tell you this bit of common sense.

If all it takes is a lock and then left clicking twice to kill your opponent...100% EVERY SINGLE TIME....something is messed up....

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

Sorry, but...
BWAAAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

This is a guy who publicly stated that the changes to AA were made beacuse of him. This is a guy who never conceeds a valid point made by others. This is a guy who's ego is so increadibly massive that it's nothing short of a mental disorder.

All other comments and arguments aside, this quote is just too damned funny.

I didnt say what he does on forums is a good think. Have you ever seen him telling

"Wargimp is a retard"
"Wargimp has a mental disorder"
"Wargimp sucks"
"insert another lame personal attack"

About valid points made by others- lol, you mean the ones that begin and end with "Planewhore, youre a friggin..."? That would mean that even if he posted a response, he still would get another answer like this "But no, youre a retard LOLOLOLOL!!!!1oneone"

I have yet to see a post taking PWs arguments and countering them quote by quote whithout sinking into personal attacks. Until then, dont expect miracles.

Variable

I don't do pack mentality. My arguments are my own.

I very much doubt thats the case, sir.

Near as I can tell, it still takes skill to survive in the air and expert pilots are differentiated from novices. So what's the problem?

It took skills to survive prepatch aswell. Whast the problem?

[vbl]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

I very much doubt thats the case, sir.

I have nothing to prove to you - look at my post history and you'll see. I only say what I believe, even if it's unpopular. In this case it just coincides with some other folks. That's that.

It took skills to survive prepatch aswell. Whast the problem?

We're not pre-patch anymore.

Look I don't fly jets very often but il tell you this bit of common sense.

If all it takes is a lock and then left clicking twice to kill your opponent...100% EVERY SINGLE TIME....something is messed up....

Apparently you missed the part about positioning and initiative - both of which are hard to achieve and maintain. You also missed the part about the flares, and the part about the turn angle - both of which affect the A2A effectiveness.

I swear some of you only see what you want to see, if only to keep your tired arguments on life support.

[Virtus2]

Re: Highway to the Boredom Zone, a pilots perspective on the 1.2 patch

I think i got the diseased patch because when i shoot my air to air missles they seem to go away from the enemy and chase my teammates... i got a -28 score from flying one round... I kept trying to shoot down this nub and final had to gun him down..