Assault nerfed.....why?

[Dilla_Incognito]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

+1 post ftw? You got a higher post count per day than me chum :|:

it was a joke...integrating the complete idiocy of leet speak with noobs that post pointless stuff

[MG36CE Fan]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

This thread delivers .

I don't think that most people would argue that the assault gun (with no GL)....ie: the G3 shouldn't have the LOWEST bullet count in the game?

I could really careless what the RL G3 has......an assault gun shouldn't have less bullets then the gun of a medic.

maybe that's because it's the size of most standar mags used for the weapon? thousands of people have fussed about the 20 round mag for the G3 in real life, did they boost the weapon in real life? no, so why would they do it here?

[Paas]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

I think everyone for the most part failed to see the thread starters point. Which is basically that "Assault" is the only class that has no true incentive to play it.

Think about it. Assault is on equal combat terms with every other kit. It also shares armor with Support and Anti-Tank, both of which have their own "Class Specific Abbilties".

Now, assault does get to dabble a bit in "Light Anti-Vehicle". Yet, so does most every other kit. Every other kit has Grenades (Nilch Anti-Tank), and every other kit can cause about the same amount of damage to a Vodnik that assault can.

Granted, I love assault. It's the class I play the most and it's second only on my list to Sniper. Yet, it doesn't have any true "Ability". It's kinda the class that's just a class. It's not the best at Infantry combat by any means, it's not the best at direct combat, it's not the fastest, not the strongest, and it's not even a "Jack of all Trades" because it cannot take on a Tank/Vehicle with any type of leathality that should be feared.

Assault is just kinda' there. It's a "Filler" class. I mean, there are two things that could really make it's role more pronounced; as the primary "Anti-Infantry" ground force.

1. Double the effectiveness of Assault's Armor.

2. Give Assault the same sprinting ability as Spec-Ops, Engineer, Medic.

It's as simple as those two changes. Assault would be the best at "Assaulting", and we could consider that its ability. Because, truely, with the throwing distances of grenades now, you can get them almost anywhere you can get a M203.

...within' reason of course. I'm not talking about the most extreme cases for all of you "literal" bastards out there.

{WP}Paas

[=HPSF=Dr.Doom]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

well then give him an SMG insteal of an AR but don't get rid of his ability to defend himself

I NEVER said a medic shouldn't be able to defend himself?

Where did I say this?

In my original post I said:

"Decrease the effectiveness of the medic gun OR decrease body armor"

This is me saying "Don't allow medics to be running and gunning self-healing point gods"

Medics need to be FEARFULL of being on the front lines and, like other support classes should REQUIRE others to support them, just like assault should need medic and support for healing and ammo.

The "defense" of medics should obviously come from a primary weapons but should be supplmented by Assault, Support and Spec-ops.

Think SQUAD people, not Rambo!

[Shask]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

I think everyone for the most part failed to see the thread starters point. Which is basically that "Assault" is the only class that has no true incentive to play it.

Think about it. Assault is on equal combat terms with every other kit. It also shares armor with Support and Anti-Tank, both of which have their own "Class Specific Abbilties".

Now, assault does get to dabble a bit in "Light Anti-Vehicle". Yet, so does most every other kit. Every other kit has Grenades (Nilch Anti-Tank), and every other kit can cause about the same amount of damage to a Vodnik that assault can.

Granted, I love assault. It's the class I play the most and it's second only on my list to Sniper. Yet, it doesn't have any true "Ability". It's kinda the class that's just a class. It's not the best at Infantry combat by any means, it's not the best at direct combat, it's not the fastest, not the strongest, and it's not even a "Jack of all Trades" because it cannot take on a Tank/Vehicle with any type of leathality that should be feared.

Assault is just kinda' there. It's a "Filler" class. I mean, there are two things that could really make it's role more pronounced; as the primary "Anti-Infantry" ground force.

1. Double the effectiveness of Assault's Armor.

2. Give Assault the same sprinting ability as Spec-Ops, Engineer, Medic.

It's as simple as those two changes. Assault would be the best at "Assaulting", and we could consider that its ability. Because, truely, with the throwing distances of grenades now, you can get them almost anywhere you can get a M203.

...within' reason of course. I'm not talking about the most extreme cases for all of you "literal" bastards out there.

{WP}Paas

Good thinking... Instead of boosting its offence, boost its defence. With these changes, I would think that it would become the flag-munching machine it's supposed to be!

@=HPSF=Doctor Doom

Pistol = Primary ftw :)

Ever been dead, calling for a medic, only to see one run right past you? Thats 'cuz he is going to kill people, which is what a medic shouldn't do. Removing assault rifle would remove the medic_killing_machine people from the medic_stick_with_a_squad_and_heal people.

[GODJOEY]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

I don't think they are keeping to real life specs are they? I mean the p90 wouldn't have such a slow cyclic rate then. 600 in game 900 in rl.

[Dilla_Incognito]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

I don't think they are keeping to real life specs are they? I mean the p90 wouldn't have such a slow cyclic rate then. 600 in game 900 in rl.

yeah, but then again irl a P90 can just tear through people (figuratively speaking) ....yet in BF2 its one of the weaker guns.

[GODJOEY]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

Yup it felt like the pistol did equal damage maybe even better I went back to the f2000.

How about the new shotty anyone tried the euro mod yet? True the p90 has the "cop killer" rounds the fiveseven fires. I don't think they realize it might be a smaller caliber but it's capable of going through multiple vests + telephone books. Seen some shots online people are very bored with spare vests.

[=HPSF=Dr.Doom]

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{WP}Paas

Thank-you for reiterating my point in a different light.

It even makes more sense to me now!

You my friend are getting a sweet ecard

[MG36CE Fan]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

"Decrease the effectiveness of the medic gun OR decrease body armor"

you can't decrease MEdic Body Armor, the medic class doesn't have any body armor.

[=HPSF=Dr.Doom]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

you can't decrease MEdic Body Armor, the medic class doesn't have any body armor.

Naked FTW

[Dilla_Incognito]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

{WP}Paas

You my friend are getting a sweet ecard

:yay: thats kinda creepy actually....even though im not the one getting the ecard...

[Paas]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

you can't decrease MEdic Body Armor, the medic class doesn't have any body armor.

True.

I think the medic could stand to share a weapon with Anti-Tank though. They are both "Extreme" supporting roles. They should be tailored to act as such.

...or maybe give the medic a shotgun? Thata' way when he's rushing into the fray to save people, his close range abbilities would be up to snuff, and he would have an increased chance of clearing out surrounding hostiles before he begins to revive? Just an idea though...

{WP}Paas

P.S. - Um.. thanks for the E-Card? I'll cherish it for life?

[MG36CE Fan]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

Naked FTW

eeewww......your just....gross

[Dilla_Incognito]

Re: Assault nerfed.....why?

eeewww......your just....gross

well.... i see this thread is gonna start going nowwhere fast...

so im gonna go....

lunch ftw