PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

[FlyingEgg]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

Problem is that it's not used for cover fire. People in games tend to ignore cover fire, as they're not afraid of the consequence.

Before, covering fire didn't work because the damned things weren't scary.
Now, they're not used for covering fire, they're used for accurate, 100-round, 3 shot kills, regardless of range.

If a sniper is already prone, he's mince. The support player dives and/or rolls, making a 1 shot kill almost impossible. Sniper can hit him once and then again, but it's not enough to beat a three shot burst in terms of speed.

As much as the support players love to say 'live with it - go adapt'.. it's one of those things that just creates an imbalance. The mass shift from assualt and special ops to support is indicative of this.

While it might be realistic, as it is a heavy gun, it's negatively affecting gameplay. Adjustments need to be made. Perhaps not to their original state, but a compramise between the original and the current would be a welcome change.

[govedob]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

dang I wish I had saved a screenshot of my latest SP round, playing as support with the PKM at Karkand...I just capture the 1st MEC post on the 16-player map and take up defensive positions with my PKM proned above the steps.


damn I must of taken out AT LEAST 100 MEC Soldiers in 10 minutes on that round...alternating between the OKC-3S Ka-Bar Knife, the Beretta 92FS Inox, and the PKM LMG, no one ever got to the top step! I was commander in the round because I always am in SP so I told them to mine and set demolitions near the CP, every vehicle that was trying to head for the CP was raped, and the MEC soldiers were dead before they knew what hit 'em


I say the PKM is over powered, I mean come on! 3 shot kills, medium accuracy, 100 Round Clips, plus the Support also has 4 M67 Frags, 3 Ammo Puches, 1 Beretta 92FS Inox, that also mowed down at least 20 MEC idiots in addition to the 100 from the PKM, the OKC-3S which easily took out 5 at least on top of the 120 I already had....I mean jee wiz come on, I am a team player even with AI Bots and I pretty much raped the other side and won on my own with the Prolific Kill Monster

I believe, in fact I know that the PKM is powerful, but the story about the at least 100 kills with at least 20 pistol kills is hard to believe. You mind giving us your BF2 nick so we can verify you stats and your best kills streak?

[Rogue845]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

You won't find it in his stats as it was in single player, not on a ranked server.

[govedob]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

You won't find it in his stats as it was in single player, not on a ranked server.

Sorry, I didn't see the SP part. Anyway in SP it should be extremely easy to kill somebody even by using your pistol all the time.

[UESC Marathon]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

...alternating between the OKC-3S Ka-Bar Knife, the Beretta 92FS Inox, and the PKM LMG

Erm, excuse me, hate to shoot down your attempt at sounding smart with all the long names and all, but the knife is actually an M9 Phrobis III, and the 92FS in the game does not have an inox stainless steel finish.

[Lugal317]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

Erm, excuse me, hate to shoot down your attempt at sounding smart with all the long names and all, but the knife is actually an M9 Phrobis III, and the 92FS in the game does not have an inox stainless steel finish.

Well at least we know somebody knows their stuff.

[MG36CE Fan]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

Erm, excuse me, hate to shoot down your attempt at sounding smart with all the long names and all, but the knife is actually an M9 Phrobis III, and the 92FS in the game does not have an inox stainless steel finish.

I haven't seen another name for the 92FS in my life, and the M9 Bayonet/OKC-3S Bayonet look identical pretty much, the M9 is smaller and lighter, while the OKC-3S is bigger heavier and sharper


P.S. the official EA site said Inox in the description of the pistol

[Paas]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

P.S. the official EA site said Inox in the description of the pistol

...that's like quoting "Blackhawk Down" for military accuracy.

Ya' just don't do it.

{WP}Paas

[Wild_Wokman]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

OK we are talking about weapons designed to kill you fast. The PKM is right on! In reality you would be down with one hit! The weapon uses a 7.62x54 round. The same one in the SVD Sniper rifle. It is quite a bit shorter than the AK47 round which is 7.62x39. While in the US Army, I have fired an M60 on full auto many times, and I could tear up targets at 300m no problem. The PKM is very accurate and powerful. They are down playing it's power now, becasue in reality a well placed MG can hold back 50 men.

[vbl]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

PKM is fine. Go post a claymore thread instead.

[baroque]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

yeah its overpowered, like the new AA - requires zero skill. So dont brag about getting high scores with it, please.

they have to fix this

[Cornbread Mafia]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

yeah its overpowered, like the new AA - requires zero skill. So dont brag about getting high scores with it, please.

they have to fix this

The skilless are those that can't or won't use tactics to counter the PKM....

For example - only Support should go prone in a face to face confrontation... If you come across a support player standing, you should be able to crouch and shot before the support player can get prone..

Also, once you have a Support player in a prone position, it is the easiest headshot because that is the majority of the target when facing him..

The only thing i see in this thread are players that refuse to alter their gameplay to the new patch changes..

[MG36CE Fan]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

...that's like quoting "Blackhawk Down" for military accuracy.

Ya' just don't do it.

{WP}Paas

oh, so you are saying that EA Games, THE COMPANY THAT MADE THE FUGGING GAME, is wrong about the description of a weapon in their own game?



what reality are you living in?

[Paas]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

oh, so you are saying that EA Games, THE COMPANY THAT MADE THE FUGGING GAME, is wrong about the description of a weapon in their own game?



what reality are you living in?

Yes, I am saying exactly that. Because, games make up stuff.

Especially the performance number on the weapons, those are ALL screwed up.

{WP}Paas

[DrJambo]

Re: PKM overpowered in Vanilla?

My only slight beef with the new improved PKM would be that it seems comparatively much better than the other support guns, even the MG36, and I thought that the whole point of unlocks was only to provide interesting alternatives...