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  • Roo00

    #31
    Re: Wake Island wasted.

    "A sniper beside the artillary can be very helpfull. You can also get a sniper in a boat in the middle of the ocean to watch some of the AA sites"

    Not seen this yet, would be interested if anyone has any success with this? I thought that any boat from that island was pretty much toast if they stayed still.
    Anyone tried this? Do you come from the carrier and come in from another angle to get a shot? I would love to take out a few chinese infantry from afar, it would make a great change! Usually get shot to hell from the mainland from either tanks or jeeps.

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    • |^|wulf

      #32
      Re: Wake Island wasted.

      I thought this thread was gong to be about how Wake Island was wasted as soon it was release for BF2.

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      • i made you

        #33
        Re: Wake Island wasted.

        Originally posted by The Soup Nazi
        We need some of those sweet little submarines like they used in The Rock.
        That would be a great idea for that map. Those little Toys R Us rafts are death traps. You could park it above the water and camp on top with an L96.

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        • Revoluti0n
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          • Mar 2006
          • 3032

          #34
          Re: Wake Island wasted.

          Originally posted by Sir. Revenge
          I disagree, athlough i agree it had got harder it is not impossible. I was wake today and my squad worked as a team. We used the boat to get to shore and took out the armour etc until we got the first flag. After that any flag is really capable as the other team all focus on getting that flag back or dont bother..
          That is all well and good, but try and get people to work as a team in a public server. It is hit or miss at best.

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          • Lugal317

            #35
            Re: Wake Island wasted.

            The problem with WAKE is everyone and their mom spawns on the carrier. What are the chances of actually getting in an airplane or attack chopper (I'm assuming thats why everyone spawns there). If you don't get in one of those assets, you are doomed to the BH deathtrap (before 1.2 and after).


            My squad always spawns on the island and takes a boat to the mainland before there is a threat of airplanes/choppers/FAVs/Tanks. Just make sure your SL stays alive on the island, take out the tank and move onto the flag. Once you capture the flag, hold it and hope the rest of your team is smart enough to spawn there.

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            • Ronin581

              #36
              Re: Wake Island wasted.

              Originally posted by TCP1
              Get in the BH and go really really high up and roll over the airfield and HALO your squad in, works almost every time.
              WAIT WAIT WAIT....you mean use the blackhawk as a TRANSPORT chopper instead of a gunship flying 30ft off the ground expecting to survive? the hell you say :p

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              • i made you

                #37
                Re: Wake Island wasted.

                Originally posted by Lugal317
                The problem with WAKE is everyone and their mom spawns on the carrier. What are the chances of actually getting in an airplane or attack chopper (I'm assuming thats why everyone spawns there). If you don't get in one of those assets, you are doomed to the BH deathtrap (before 1.2 and after).
                Spawning on the artillary island is worse than suicide. You'll be sniped within a second of spawning, or 4 jeeps will gun down your boat 10 ft from the island. You have a better chance of living being J10'd or Arty'd on the carrier. That map really wasn't designed well.

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                • rombaft

                  #38
                  Re: Wake Island wasted.

                  wake had already an unbalance but with a good team the island could be won over, now the balance has been put in the trashcan and now you need an uber team in combination with a noob chinees team , there will always be guys saying , but today I won the round as US, yse it will happen, but less then it used to be and it will only happen if the other team sucks

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                  • Ronin581

                    #39
                    Re: Wake Island wasted.

                    Originally posted by rombaft
                    wake had already an unbalance but with a good team the island could be won over, now the balance has been put in the trashcan and now you need an uber team in combination with a noob chinees team , there will always be guys saying , but today I won the round as US, yse it will happen, but less then it used to be and it will only happen if the other team sucks
                    the water area around wake is HUGE! travel towards the back of wake, toward the airfield, as far away from the island as possible in your boat, sure it takes longer but you certainly will survive longer than trying to dock your rubber dingy on the shores on the tips of the island.......

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                    • Lugal317

                      #40
                      Re: Wake Island wasted.

                      Originally posted by i made you
                      Spawning on the artillary island is worse than suicide. You'll be sniped within a second of spawning, or 4 jeeps will gun down your boat 10 ft from the island. You have a better chance of living being J10'd or Arty'd on the carrier. That map really wasn't designed well.
                      Not in the very beginning. You have time to get to the shore before the enemies get in place.

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                      • i made you

                        #41
                        Re: Wake Island wasted.

                        Originally posted by Lugal317
                        Not in the very beginning. You have time to get to the shore before the enemies get in place.
                        Those boats take half a minute to get to shore. The jeeps and tanks can get there in about 10 seconds from the nearest spawn. If you're lucky enough to get a good AH crew, you have a chance. Once you finally get there, it's like Omaha beach.

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                        • ACE_FIN1972

                          #42
                          Re: Wake Island wasted.

                          Originally posted by sbsaxophone07
                          I sometimes don't know why people complain about the smallest of issues. This isn't even a bug...if you're going to complain make it about something that is actually a problem.

                          So what...the air power is a little weaker...this only should motivate players to play differently. Different is good. It involves strategy instead of the same move over and over again. Its kind of like playing a game of chess with a player who always uses the same moves to start off. Why not switch it up a little bit.

                          For goodness sake!!! Have fun with the game!!!

                          As I mentioned in my first post, the unbalance is annoying. This map is fun to play with people who play as a team. Just that normally teamwork on the public servers is a bit rusty. Most of the comrades are quarreling of the Cobra and fighters. This funny looking behaviour is interupted once and a while by J-10, but it seems to be just a minor drawback.

                          When the situation seems to jam, and USMC can't ashore, I like to spawn on the arty island with a sniper riffle. Loved M24 but I guess that I'll marry the new L96A1. I never stay near the Igla bunker, instead on the other side of the island. Arty gun are also pretty good hiding places. Then I just start killing those who came near enough. I try to bother air defence on the left cape (if looking from USMC attack direction). Now, with the new gun, it's actually pretty easy. I love to watch some chineese sniper hurrying on the end of the edge, watch him setting his spot like a dog, and when everything is ready for his spree, I'll pop his head :laugh:. The fellows in FAVs and tank turret are turkey shooting, but the most enjoyable thing, when jammed on the arty island, is to commence sniper contest with a good opponent.

                          I wasn't actually complaining, just said that it annoyes me. If we look my original headline, the map is kinda wasted, because before the new patch, it wasn't that much of a trick to get the main island. In my mind, most enjoyable playing it that hectic inland fighting over the spawn points on Wake. Now it just seems that most of the time the game is on its half when the real action starts, or it won't start and I stay sniping on that small island the whole round. It's annoying because I used to like this map really much.

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                          • daNgLez

                            #43
                            Re: Wake Island wasted.

                            What you should do is if you want to have a chance at getting on the island is get a squad filled with teamwork players then get 4 people in a boat all AT for tanks and maybe a sniper then get the other 2 to get in a cobra and voila you have a garuntee of gettin the island under your control.

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                            • F-1

                              #44
                              Re: Wake Island wasted.

                              Originally posted by Roo00
                              "A sniper beside the artillary can be very helpfull. You can also get a sniper in a boat in the middle of the ocean to watch some of the AA sites"

                              Not seen this yet, would be interested if anyone has any success with this? I thought that any boat from that island was pretty much toast if they stayed still.
                              Anyone tried this? Do you come from the carrier and come in from another angle to get a shot? I would love to take out a few chinese infantry from afar, it would make a great change! Usually get shot to hell from the mainland from either tanks or jeeps.

                              Just remeber that you need to stay as far as possible from the land. you want to make it very difficult for the infantry to hit you and at the same time you want to be able to snipe.

                              The enemy's commander will eventually spot you. I think sniping from the artillary's little island will be more effective anyway.

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                              • LeDgE

                                #45
                                Re: Wake Island wasted.

                                Infact I reckon' the patch made it easier for people. I see no more aircraft whore and heli whores. Infact I see squads of boats, so many boats that when I'm in a J-10 at least 1 or 2 boats make it on shore. Whenever I'm in a blackhawk the pilot is smart enough to go in high altitudes. This patch has made people think more mentally before raping a carrier. The essex is a beast now, so is any anti-air. The patch is infact very balanced. I have no complain for it

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