My thoughts about the Controversial "AA"

[Orphious2006]

Ok 1st of let me start by saying I am no pilot! I can jump in a plane and fly it around a few laps around the map but thats about it. Bombing runs and dogfighting forget about it...soooo....I dont fly. I let the experianced pilots fly.

As soon as I downloaded the patch I jumped right in a game and jumped into AA to see what would happen. Welp....just as I suspected. I would lock on and fire the missles after I saw the pilot dump the flares. I only got one kill while doing this!!! To say that the Jets and Helos are now helpless is absurd. I was up against some very skilled pilots cause usually after locking on the pilot would disappear and return to splatter me to peices and destroy the AA. I noticed that the even though you may get a better lock on the target, your missle may still not connect.

Another thing I noticed is that the people in the attack choppers are alot more careful about where they fly. I think the changes to AA are for the better given the fact that pilots are now going to have to use tactics where they fly. AA can be used to defend flags where choppers would hover to cap! Ok Im tired of ramblojgn and am going to bed.

peace out!
-Orph

[Digital-Boy]

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I fired a missile while locked onto an enemy at my one and a half o' clock, pulling a sharp turn, and the missile still hit. Overbuff?

[imported_DigitalSPG]

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have had a play with the new AA. It is way more accurate, as with pre-patch if you wait for the flares to be fired and then fire just before they go out the missiles will lock on the heli / jet. However post patch they will generally now find their target. I was hitting jets high and low and helis were easy pickings. Missiles were even finding their way past friendly a/c to hit the enemy.

It looks to me like some balance has been bought into the the whole air superiority problem. Now pilots will have to keep the AA suppressed in order to carry out effective bombing runs. As more players realise this AA positions and vehicles will be manned far more often. Given time the days of bombing with impunity should be over.

Well done Dice you have got it about right.

[FM_Echo_One]

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When air whores start crying at AA, I guess DICE finally got it right. Maybe I (and many others) will once again start to play maps not classified as 'city maps.'

:no pity:

[Azriel]

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Don't bitch about the AA batteries, just make friends with a sniper, lol. I had a blast today trying out the the tweaked sniper rifles. I just found a nice cosy spot overlooking an AA, racked up the kills, they are literally sitting ducks. Teamwork? What a concept.

[Orphious2006]

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Don't bitch about the AA batteries, just make friends with a sniper, lol. I had a blast today trying out the the tweaked sniper rifles. I just found a nice cosy spot overlooking an AA, racked up the kills, they are literally sitting ducks. Teamwork? What a concept.

I agree!! I actually had a a guy bail out of a jet. I assume he was a sniper cause soon after thta my head was toast!

[Robske007a]

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Tis proves it, there is no skill in AA fireing

[193d Klink]

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I am just going to wait till I make a verdic on post patch AA.

As it stood pre-patch...AA was just plain horrible. Now with a tweak everyone jumps off the start yelling that it's just to overpowered. OR is it they just got Soft and so accustumed to the AA being crap that it wasn't even a big concern and now have to change their flying tactics.

Now that has changed....and as we all know....Most ppl HATE Change.

[[GU]LIZARD{GEN}]

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It is to powerful now... Even the planes missiles are super.. i got shot down by a noob pilot I know because I killed him about 30 times in a row before he actually got behind me for a bout 3 seconds. I was killing him and not even letting it lock just killing him with like 3 missiles in turns... Easy kills now...

As for AA even if you come down at an angel and hit the AA they can fire and still end killing yo ass. Its just to obvious that the helos have been nerfed way to much. The AA has been as someone said above 'over buffed'. So in my opinion they should be leveled alot more. It now takes no skill to be in an AA.. Alot of news will jump in them and rack up a **** ton of kills now... As my clan mate said its because everyone was crying about something that really wasn't that bad. Learn to fly, and take the pilot down skillful rather then crying that its over powered. If more people played as a team this wouldn't even be an issue.. If anything needs to be done more vehicles or something needs to be added in. On maps like ghost town people are either trying to get a helo or stuck in an AA gun. It wouldn't even be as bad as if there wasn't like 3 or 4 AA guns on these small as maps.

Heh I'v seen people be in those damn AA guns and not even have the base. I'v had people be in the AA gun's at the main base on ghost town from the other team. EA is focusing on trying to listen to the cry babies about something that really wasn't all that over powered. I am glad the guns are mroe effective I am not glad my hitpoints were weakened, I am not happy that the flares are ineffective, theres alot about this patch I dislike. I am don't complain alot but this is lame.

As for the AA being weak, if someone would of taken the time to set down and listen to the tactics in the AA gun on taking out a helicopter they might not be crying. The gun was effective... Heh in the planes the missiles even look weird when they are chasing another plane. It's no longer possible to advoid getting hit atleast once, and depending on just who is shooting at you it sucks. Go play a 64 man map.. The people saying "OH NO it wasn't nerfed its right now" are the ones who probally have a minus frag rate either over-all or the ones who stay out of the planes period. Its really bad on a 64 man map with 64+ people or even 32 people its pretty bad. 3 or people firing at you with rockets, 3 or 4 AA gun's flying at you that now are almost a hit everytime, a line backer here and there... Then if thats not enough a vodnik or FAV firing up at you...Yeah I am skilled in the helicopter BUT no one cna dodge that much stuff firing at you. In a chopper your the number one target most of the time. Its the same with a tank a tank comes rolling in on strike about 3 or 4 missiles come out from every where.. I know i'm right...
Yeah I never did get use to having that much stuff shooting at me but atleast to some extent I could dodge the AA. I don't suck, but in a chopper there is just not alot of manuvers you can do to get rid of the missiles especially if the planes can barely escape them.

Anyway all the ones doubting me on this just wait the new thing for everyone to whore will be an AA gun... Guranted points in one.

[193d Klink]

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Heat seaking missles don't have anything to do with player skill. They are Fire and Forget Missles. The skill NOW falls on Pilots evasion skill.

[imported_The 13th Raptor]

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Pilots that cant deal with the AA are noobs, you suck at flying, and should leave it to the pro's. The pro's that STIL manage to get the top score, deal with it, if you cant.. well, try tankwhoring. :P

[PoweredBySoy]

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I love how most of the people that are bitching about the AA changes have a plane or helicopter in their sig.

I know you retards love being "ground thumpers" and think it's so noble and mighty to own the skies, but Battlefield's gameplay revolves around capping flags - which you guys do little to assist.

Planes were getting a free ride before, with nothing to keep them in check. Well... rides over. And the game is so much better for it.

On the forum you can tell who the truly skilled pilots are, because they welcome the change. And believe me, they're going to adapt.

[[GU]LIZARD{GEN}]

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Evaision skill go look at my stats in the helicopter.. Go look at Immunity as well while your at since he is ranked 65 in the helicopter... There is nothing you can do... Keep talking **** but until you show me a video or an actual pilot here who don't have a big head and just makes a complete lie tells me that they've found some 'logical' way to dodge the missiles and advoid being hit then I am standing my ground.

As for a top score I got a 90 score on Sharqi today, with the cobra. Only because I could go behind buildings... I did start out trying to kill them with my gunner and guess what we killed 2 of them, and ended up getting hit and killed still. I have talked to experienced pilots that you speak up, obviously because your not one of them. You have no clue, as to what your talking about.

[Orphious2006]

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I am not trying to knock anyone but come on you have to admit that before the patch AA was non exsistent. The reason people didnt use it was because it simply didnt work. They come out with a patch and fix it and now the people that have had free reign in the skys are crying now.

I guess I can understand why they are upset though. They will have to totally change the way they fly.

[evilzucchini]

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So wait, lizard, you got a score of 90 in a helicopter and you are complaining that the AA is overpowered?

That's a f-ing joke.