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when you get off work you won't shot down sh it cos noone will be flying BH..and not because of powerfull AA but miniguns on BH = MEC's guns
yeah i got into 5 diferent full servers after two rounds in each the planes and heli where alone and nobody use them. That is the future of this game. With every patch they make the vehicles more useless.
Yes the little dogfighting we had in BF2 is gone with the new Air2Air to lasers more arcade than ever now....The ground AA was plenty improvement and am dissappointed with these air2air uberlasers that look ridiculous.The only skill in dogfighting it will take now is shoot down the planes then basecamp them 24/7 oh do you think skilled pilots cant eliminate the 2 AA sites at an uncap,pff keep dreaming.
The chopper,oh the poor choppers I feel real sry for them!!
Wow yeah before they get you? humm once you get locked no matter how many skill you got, you get shot down. have you fly with this patch?
Yes, I've flown and have yet to be shot down by another plane (although I've no doubt I'm in for a kicking over the coming weeks. ) . The planes haven't changed, it's the way they have to be used which has changed. Learn new tactics, seek out other aircraft, surprise them and enjoy air dominance. Adapt and overcome.
Bullshark, you've got things twisted around. It was the endless round and round dogfights which were "arcade". Now the game is actually more realistic. It's the pilot who finds his enemy and engages first who is likely to win. Dogfighting is for WW2, not the 21st century. Bear in mind that people will use their missiles first before guns now, also more realistic than before.
Yes the little dogfighting we had in BF2 is gone with the new Air2Air to lasers more arcade than ever now....The ground AA was plenty improvement and am dissappointed with these air2air uberlasers that look ridiculous.The only skill in dogfighting it will take now is shoot down the planes then basecamp them 24/7 oh do you think skilled pilots cant eliminate the 2 AA sites at an uncap,pff keep dreaming.
The chopper,oh the poor choppers I feel real sry for them!!
Why would a "skiled"l pilot be near the AA at uncapible flag anyway....
Thats your all problem you want to play the old way. The better pilots are aready in the sky getting there points, you just have to rethink your plan of the attack now, like everyone else
Yes, I've flown and have yet to be shot down by another plane (although I've no doubt I'm in for a kicking over the coming weeks. ) . The planes haven't changed, it's the way they have to be used which has changed. Learn new tactics, seek out other aircraft, surprise them and enjoy air dominance. Adapt and overcome.
Bullshark, you've got things twisted around. It was the endless round and round dogfights which were "arcade". Now the game is actually more realistic. It's the pilot who finds his enemy and engages first who is likely to win. Dogfighting is for WW2, not the 21st century. Bear in mind that people will use their missiles first before guns now, also more realistic than before.
I agree with alot you say flares ,and yes I know all about BF flying but my point is now Pappy Boyington can be shot down any average pilot..Theres still skill in dogfighting which is why dogfighting is still taught,you know after air 2 air missiles came about the US abandoned Dogfight training at one point until Vietnam then came Topgun they said there was no need for gun which is why the early F4's had none...Dogfighters still have skill to this day so my point is not every person in a plane should score victory ..
Yes, I've flown and have yet to be shot down by another plane (although I've no doubt I'm in for a kicking over the coming weeks. ) . The planes haven't changed, it's the way they have to be used which has changed. Learn new tactics, seek out other aircraft, surprise them and enjoy air dominance. Adapt and overcome.
Bullshark, you've got things twisted around. It was the endless round and round dogfights which were "arcade". Now the game is actually more realistic. It's the pilot who finds his enemy and engages first who is likely to win. Dogfighting is for WW2, not the 21st century. Bear in mind that people will use their missiles first before guns now, also more realistic than before.
hahahahhaha tactics theres no tactics. It seems you havent fly in a server with pilots in the other side. HAHAHA you can't evade the other planes no matter what they get in you tale, they lock, you throw the flares they dont work you evade and the missiles still get you. It takes no skill to take down other plane i shoot the others too. theres no fun in this. before you can evade twist and do manuvers and if the other pilot have skills it shot you down. but now skills are useless
hahahahhaha tactics theres no tactics. It seems you havent fly in a server with pilots in the other side. HAHAHA you can't evade the other planes no matter what they get in you tale, they lock, you throw the flares they dont work you evade and the missiles still get you. It takes no skill to take down other plane i shoot the others too. theres no fun in this. before you can evade twist and do manuvers and if the other pilot have skills it shot you down. but now skills are useless
Exactly , so Ive never base raped before at Uncaps ,but since thats where the uberlasers are stored I might have to begin.
Actually this one did. AA finally requires no skill.
As in real life. You can train a soldier to use the Stinger or Igla in 10 minutes and he will be shooting down planes. Pilots train for 3 or 4 years before they can fly in combat.
hahahahhaha tactics theres no tactics. It seems you havent fly in a server with pilots in the other side. HAHAHA you can't evade the other planes no matter what they get in you tale, they lock, you throw the flares they dont work you evade and the missiles still get you. It takes no skill to take down other plane i shoot the others too. theres no fun in this. before you can evade twist and do manuvers and if the other pilot have skills it shot you down. but now skills are useless
What happens when you fly by a chopper on the same team has the jet attacking you? Does AA lose you and attck there freindly chopper? I use that tactic alot in 1.1x
Pmosh (and to a lesser extent, Bullshark) you don't get my point... If you're a great, so called "expert" pilot, the new guy won't ever get the chance to fire his missiles at you because you're on the ball. The whole point is you don't let other planes get on your tail. Yes, it now takes little skill to fire a couple of missiles from behind a jet and knock him down, but if you let him get a firing solution on you in the first place then tough tittie, you lose.
Pmosh you're starting to sound a like a whiney baby who's had his favourite toy taken away, which suggests to me you're not the sh1t hot pilot you think you are. Maybe you should stick to Space Invaders until you've grown out of your Pampers. <end of conversation>
died once cos of noob kamikaze pilot right 3 seconds before end of round!
Actually I think now it's even more power to airplanes once you master to avoid AA. Choppers are taken down by planes so easily now I cannot believe it.
Look bud I change my views every 1-3 seconds,I can fly in fly by view until I get bored....In Battlefield just by circumstance the next thing you know someone has managed to get behind me I usually see them before they even lock.Its not like they jumped me this isnt LOMAC,it just happens,yes I have evaded some fights and do try and elminate the air threats ofcourse..you must have not played it yet I assure you its not like Im letting them get on my six,or better yet its not like they are even near my six.
The only good thing of it is that most average pilots life span has dropped to about 20 seconds.
in battlefield vietnam you were able to do a lot more with vehicles, especially choppers when it came to capturing a cp. this game isn't like that for a good reason...this game is a realistic game (though some aspects aren't realistic) in real life do you see choppers hovering five feet off the ground? of course not. i don't want anybody to take my words the wrong way because i know that this game is not real life but it does a good job of capturing some aspects of modern warfare (ie. bf2 players use some tactics that are used in real life etc.) one more thing..don't you try to take out enemy vehicles, especially when they're owning you with machine gun fire, bombs, rockets, etc...?
LMAO!!! Of course what a great point you made, I mean, anyone/thing capturing a flag to win a war makes plain sense. well done to all you PRO-PATCH/REALSIM, what a joke, if you want 'REALSIM', phone up your local barracks, get a application form, and sign your death in the army. hahahaha, realsim, YOU RESPAWN!!!!! whats realistic about that!? Oh well, I havent yet tried the new patch, but from what I can tell, I would like to thank all the people who encouraged the Sh1te content of this patch, for making a great game (that we all pld regardless) into a crap one.
What happens when you fly by a chopper on the same team has the jet attacking you? Does AA lose you and attck there freindly chopper? I use that tactic alot in 1.1x
the AA once it lock theres no way to evade it . flares dont work in the plane some chopers can but after they use all of them and wait for reload boom you are dead.
This game, the maps where made for vehicles, heli and air, those two are the trademark of the battlefield games. This is just one of the bunch of shooting games. AA don't give a chance to any plane or heli no matter pilot skill. Planes can't get flags. Just play WAKE island on a full server and try to get from the carrier to the island. Patch 1.2 just killed BF2 vanilla. I wander if this is a metod to make people buy the booster packs. Or maybe some new Dice game coming.
LOL..:laugh: ...I figured you guys would bitch. Yes the playing field has now been "ballanced" like it should have been in the 1st place. I support this patch 100%.
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) . The planes haven't changed, it's the way they have to be used which has changed. Learn new tactics, seek out other aircraft, surprise them and enjoy air dominance. Adapt and overcome.
Patch 1.2 just killed BF2 vanilla. I wander if this is a metod to make people buy the booster packs. Or maybe some new Dice game coming.
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