Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

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  • vulcan

    #31
    Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

    What with the much better support guns and sniper rifles actually hitting a target you aim at....I'm frightened to even cross the road anymore.

    Somebody please hold me....

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    • ^nUbl4z0r(!)

      #32
      Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

      Enddd The Maddnesss!!! There Are S Oooo Many Threads That Are Still On The First Page About Thiss!!! Stopp Making New Ones!!!

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      • vulcan

        #33
        Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

        Originally posted by 4thebeavers
        Enddd The Maddnesss!!! There Are S Oooo Many Threads That Are Still On The First Page About Thiss!!! Stopp Making New Ones!!!
        Don't read them then...and lighten up a little, you'll live longer. :)

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        • Fee501st

          #34
          Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

          Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
          I can sense a lot of people come in and shove that "like in real life" up your butt so deep that youll start coughing it. Seriously, please think about what youre posting.
          What in the hell are you talking about you said the AA, takes no skill now and i just like in real life! You think using AA takes skill in real life? You need to watch the History channel and military channel now. The Stinger in a Fire and Forget weapon, which means after you push the button to launch it the on board computers do all the work. Now Tell me where in there is skill in luanching a missle that does all the work. "Hey buddy you took out a MIG-29, you really know how to press that button!!!" The skill in reallife and in BF2 is trying to Evade the Stingers

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          • imported_VISTREL

            #35
            Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

            Just tried the patch, and it's over for me. I played BF2 only for choppers and airplanes. I don't like BF2 close combat at all - it stinks. If I need close combat I play games like Swat, AA, and Operation Flashpoint. Now there is no real reason to play. Blackhawk is a joke now. Hell, even when Im on MEC side Im still pised cos there won't be many BH noobs flying to suicide them with COW strapped with C4s.

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            • Fee501st

              #36
              Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

              We won't miss ya, goodbye!

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              • Chris_Redfield
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 5986

                #37
                Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                Originally posted by Fee501st
                What in the hell are you talking about you said the AA, takes no skill now and i just like in real life! You think using AA takes skill in real life? You need to watch the History channel and military channel now. The Stinger in a Fire and Forget weapon, which means after you push the button to launch it the on board computers do all the work. Now Tell me where in there is skill in luanching a missle that does all the work. "Hey buddy you took out a MIG-29, you really know how to press that button!!!" The skill in reallife and in BF2 is trying to Evade the Stingers
                It wasnt supposed to go this way but hell. I´ll enlighten you a bit. As a Player vs Player type of game, in perfect balance it should take a player equal ammount of skills to counter a threat guided by a skilled player. This has NOTHING to do with real life, but a whole lot with balance. I know what a fire and forget weapon can do and I also know that the perfentage of hit-to-kill with stingers against jets is poor. But its real and its there.

                I wouldnt mind a 20% hit probablility by a AA. Wouldnt mind it at all. That would mean that n00bs get a hit with every 5th missile and experienced players get even more. But right now, is ridiculously lethal. I still have hope as some players have said things arent that bad.

                My post to you had NOTHING to do with comparing the game with real life.

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                • Red Ghost

                  #38
                  Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                  I think a lot of people just don't get it do they? Only the most idiotic person could see that pre-patch the airpower was far too effective (think about that game you are playing before you continue to read, i.e not a flight sim). So they didn't "listen to the whiners" they simply saw that the two people on the maps that got planes should really not have such a huge advantage over everyone else. This as stated many times by the developers was not their idea for the game. They wanted teamplay and a balanced system so that everyone had a chance.

                  To say that airpower is ruined is silly. You still have flares and as far as I know most planes can be out of an area quicker that you can get a lock on them.

                  Harsh reality for some people out there, but there are a lot fewer easy rides on this game. If you are not a person that enjoys a fair fight, or doesn't like infantry combat, then perhaps this game is not for you.

                  Myself on the other hand, I think this is a good patch. What I longed to see was a game where you had support, like a plane taking out a tank, or a blackhawk dropping off troops. Whilst the troopers fought on a level playing field. What we had for a long time however was planes flying loops indicriminatly carpet bombing the nearest flag, vehciles being totally raveaged by choppers as soon as they left their spawn spots, and blackhawks flying in circles laying wasted to anything and everything their guns touched.

                  Now perhaps people can enjoy their teamwork, enjoy their classes and feel something along the lines of "Hey, I got killed by a stinger, fair enough I do have a vehicle capable of cluster bombing a large area and flying very fast, seems fair to me that I can be hit, I still have speed and flares to get away".

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                  • Fee501st

                    #39
                    Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                    Why should it take 4 stringers to take out a jet, but it takes only 1 bomb to take out a squad. wheres the balance in that?

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                    • Orion126

                      #40
                      Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                      You're obviously going to see a ton of snipers on the field. Why? Because there's a new gun that we're able to unlock. People are eventually going to get bored of sitting and waiting.

                      The server I play in has one-two maps with planes and choppers. I am mostly MEC and when I get off of work I'm going to enjoy taking down that f*$%ing blackhawk =D

                      BF2 is dead for the people who whore in the Blackhawk and on the planes.

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                      • Flares

                        #41
                        Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                        Originally posted by Mr Pmosh
                        The fact that a noob pilot can take out an expert pilot without skill in a dog fight is fair? hahaha great game. Before the patch it take skills. Know every noob can do anything. This patch was for the cry babys that got owned every day because the don't try to learn to use the vehicles. Now you see because the patch everyones playing , I give it a month before everyone stop playing. Before the patch you can take out a heli with a AA because you needed skills to do it. Now no skill is needed for this game. Heli and planes are for support for troops on the ground, thats why they where so powerfull to balance the score.
                        Before nobody install the game and play for the first time and be a expert pilot. It taked time. Now a noob can jump in a plane and take anyone. Wow.

                        Today I enter 5 servers and the planes and choppers where alone in the carrier :laugh: Thats the future of this game.
                        If you let the "noob pilot" get on your tail and you don't see him, then you deserve to die and can hardly call yourself an expert.
                        This patch will turn truly excellent pilots into the elite knights of the air that they should be. It will sort the men from the stat conscious boys.
                        Piloting jets is going to be a great deal harder and I'm enjoying it already. Yes, air to air missiles hit with laser like precision, but that's easily solved by you taking out the opposing pilots first... Surface to air missiles are deadly accurate, but not impossible to dodge, and still easy to neutralise. Loitering over the battlefield is now for the foolhardy. Fancy flying, sneaky tactics and teamwork are the way forward for pilots. Bring it on.

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                        • Keith Maniac

                          #42
                          Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                          Originally posted by Cornbread Mafia
                          EXCELLENT patch !!!!!
                          How can you say that now when Mr Pmosh doesn't like it and enemy units keep shooting him?!

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                          • panzerd18

                            #43
                            Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                            Hear hear

                            This patch is what i've been waiting for.

                            Now all the c4 throwers, prone jumpers and plane whores who have had it easy or too long come onto this forum for a whine. gg noobs

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                            • imported_VISTREL

                              #44
                              Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                              Originally posted by Orion126
                              when I get off of work I'm going to enjoy taking down that f*$%ing blackhawk =D
                              when you get off work you won't shot down sh it cos noone will be flying BH..and not because of powerfull AA but miniguns on BH = MEC's guns

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                              • Mr Pmosh

                                #45
                                Re: Bf2 vanilla is DEAD

                                Originally posted by Flares
                                If you let the "noob pilot" get on your tail and you don't see him, then you deserve to die and can hardly call yourself an expert.
                                This patch will turn truly excellent pilots into the elite knights of the air that they should be. It will sort the men from the stat conscious boys.
                                Piloting jets is going to be a great deal harder and I'm enjoying it already. Yes, air to air missiles hit with laser like precision, but that's easily solved by you taking out the opposing pilots first... Surface to air missiles are deadly accurate, but not impossible to dodge, and still easy to neutralise. Loitering over the battlefield is now for the foolhardy. Fancy flying, sneaky tactics and teamwork are the way forward for pilots. Bring it on.
                                Wow yeah before they get you? humm once you get locked no matter how many skill you got, you get shot down. have you fly with this patch?

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