A better idea to fix helicopter

[glaucoma]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

Helicopter are fine like they are.

I agree with the reduction of their TV missiles since eight is a more realistic number.

Also, improving the AA missles should be enough to force helicopter pilots to fight from longer distances (just like in real life). They will have to rely on real flying skill and use their TV guided missles more effectively. No more base raping and an added sense of reality!!!! They would also have to coordinate the destruction of air defenses before hitting a position just like in real life.

We did not invent STEALTH jets for nothing. AA missiles are really deadly and that fact should be reflected in the game.

Read my other posts ther other threads about the reality of AA missiles!

You understood nothing.
TV missiles are already 8 in number. They will be reduced in RANGE, not number.
The dumb (=unguided) missiles will be reduced in number, from 14 to 8.

Also, if you add a "sense of reality" to the game, do it for every aspect, so that all infantrymen are so utterly useless and the vehicles so horribly hard to control that everyone quits forever, please!

[Digital-Boy]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

The only thing that was ever remotely unfair about helicopters was being able to camp the carrier from a distance using TV missiles. In every other aspect, they're fairly well balanced.

[gurkha_warrior]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

You understood nothing.
TV missiles are already 8 in number. They will be reduced in RANGE, not number.
The dumb (=unguided) missiles will be reduced in number, from 14 to 8.

Also, if you add a "sense of reality" to the game, do it for every aspect, so that all infantrymen are so utterly useless and the vehicles so horribly hard to control that everyone quits forever, please!

Exactly, the point is to prevent random changes to the game that contradict reality for the sake of "balance". Sacrifices were made to make the game fun, but we have to understand that the game has undergone too many changes and is still constantly changing for the sake of balance. For every change you make, you must balance the effect by changing something else.

I am not talking about making radical changes to the game mechanics, just to make things a little bit more realistic and let the differences in equipment take due course. Just like in real life, there should be some differences between forces, promoting new tactics and strategic thinking not herd mentality. Soldiers should adapt in the battlefield and work around the different tactics and army doctrines. That is what makes the game fun.... not arcade (if not illogical and random mechanics).

Play America's Army... is is a fun game (not as fun as BF2), but you do not real anybody complain about weapons efficiency, rates of fire, penetration, etc because the game is BASED of REALITY... that is how things work... you cannot complain about the laws of physics, the engineering of the weapons or the way vehicle work.

[CS-Evolution]

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AA is also a marketing tool for the US Army....

[Syrius187]

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They are making it more realistic.. Come on. In real life a Cobra cant take 1 rocket to the side and keep flying like they do now. SO I think its good what they are doing.

[Pilot Z]

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They could reduce the reload time. That would Mildly weaken it. right ?

[Donkey]

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in real life you would never have a copter like this so close to you ... they rockets etc they carrying are for mid range combat and not for close quqrter like they are in bf2 (they would use the rockets from several houndred meters not from 20 ...) and good luck hitting something flying with a rifle at that distance lol, let alone a mounted mg.

I dunno man I have heard stories from troops in Iraq that they where so close to the Cobras one guy reached out and touched the skid...they get very close check out some footage on the Military Channel and you will see them come right in helpin out there boys....

They are making it more realistic.. Come on. In real life a Cobra cant take 1 rocket to the side and keep flying like they do now. SO I think its good what they are doing.

But they have.....

They have two engines and multiple redundant systems just for things like this....Yeha sure you hear about helos getting taken out but for the ammount of sorties they run it is a rather low number....

[gurkha_warrior]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

[QUOTE=SuperDonkey]I dunno man I have heard stories from troops in Iraq that they where so close to the Cobras one guy reached out and touched the skid...they get very close check out some footage on the Military Channel and you will see them come right in helpin out there boys....


That is because The Afghan troops had no AA defenses!!!

They run out of the CIA appropriated Stingers.... hahaha (real cruel!)

[Chalk.One]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

The choppers are fine. I wish people would stop whining and just deal with it. Or play one of the many maps without choppers on it. Or learn how to fly. If they nerf the choppers then what's the point? Just cause you NEVER want to be killed by a chopper and want to be able to shoot it down with your Pistol? Bah, **** off.

[74javelin]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

i've never been shot down by infantry on the ground. jets,other choppers or i flew into something.

i've been in games where the first thing they do is steal your chopper and then use the choppers to rape and take all the flags. it's very very hard to take down a chopper that leaves the fight everytime he gets a little damage. i'll get one hit in with the AT and they kill me and they fly away for repairs. it takes 3 hit's with the AT to take them down. it should be one hit.

i also feel you shouldn't be able to take flags in a chopper.

if i'm fighting on the ground i want to fight infantry and tanks. not get spawned raped by choppers over and over with no way to take them down.

[Donkey]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

i've never been shot down by infantry on the ground. jets,other choppers or i flew into something.

i've been in games where the first thing they do is steal your chopper and then use the choppers to rape and take all the flags. it's very very hard to take down a chopper that leaves the fight everytime he gets a little damage. i'll get one hit in with the AT and they kill me and they fly away for repairs. it takes 3 hit's with the AT to take them down. it should be one hit.

i also feel you shouldn't be able to take flags in a chopper.

if i'm fighting on the ground i want to fight infantry and tanks. not get spawned raped by choppers over and over with no way to take them down.

It should def not be one hit...maybe one hit to the tail rotor....but not one hit anywhere on the thing...People you need to aim you can't just expect to hsoot at something and it blow up cuz you hit it....Like said for the amount of choppers taken out by rockets there is just as many if not more that have survived....why because they are designed to....hence all the redundancy...

[Fayadi]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

There is a good news for chopper pilots. In the confirmed fixes for 1.12 patch ,helicopters WILL NOT BE NERFED.

But I don't know , IMO EA shouldn't listen too much about people who whine about choppers. Honestly I would love to see chopper stay the same, unless EA wants to please some of the whiners. In that case, a slight nerf will do.

Hey keep on voting people and give your comments!

[18Zulukiller]

Re: A better idea to fix helicopter

I have to honestly say i really don't think the helis should be nerfed in anyway the armour and the missile count is fine the way it is . If they want to make the helis easier to take down what they should do is add a modifier so when a tank shell hits a heli its destroyed outright (i could definitely live with that). Also maybe add a modifier so that when a AT missile hits a heli it takes 2/3 of its life. It would be so simple to implement (in my mind anyway) to the game just slap in a bit of code saying for a tank shell hits v heli = *3 (3 times as much damage), ATmissle hits v heli = *2 (in my experience it takes 3 AT missiles to take a heli down) . Doing that wouldn't drastically change the way the heli is used but it definitely would cut down on the spawn raping.