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  • BRUTALITEEEEEEEEE

    #46
    Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

    PC's rule! Consoles rule! Each in there own ways. Get both and enjoy alot of good gaming on different levels. Get your insane graphics and killer multiplayer on your PC and then invite your buds over for BBQ, Beer and a little friendly competition on the console game of your choice.

    Shouldn't we just be stoked we have all these different avenues of gaming to go with and it's always changing and getting better? I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy whatever they throw at me! :)

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    • BigFinger

      #47
      Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

      Originally posted by BRUTALITEEEEEEEEE
      PC's rule! Consoles rule! Each in there own ways. Get both and enjoy alot of good gaming on different levels. Get your insane graphics and killer multiplayer on your PC and then invite your buds over for BBQ, Beer and a little friendly competition on the console game of your choice.

      Shouldn't we just be stoked we have all these different avenues of gaming to go with and it's always changing and getting better? I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy whatever they throw at me! :)
      tru dat... a good point well made :yay:

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      • fab kebab

        #48
        Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

        yea, i dont want to have war with this console vs pc thread

        peace brothers

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        • downthesun

          #49
          Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

          Originally posted by BigFinger
          nope sorry sonshine... you are ... HDTV comes in several flavors the highest bieng 1080p

          PGR is 720p thats 1280x720 and face it compared to 1600x1200 thats pants.

          PGR is nothing compared to the wealth of racing titles available to the pc the best imho is GTR, and it will also look daft once GT4 on the ps3 gets here.

          DOA4 is 1080i thats 1920x1080 once again thats **** compared to a pc resolution.

          DOA4 is a good game and looks top notch but tekken on the ps3 will laugh at it.. consoles have always been the home of fighting games and imho surpass the pc for this due to the communal nature of consoles anyway.

          PDZ is 720p again ....

          PDZ .. not played it. but it have much hope does it ? an fps with a console control ....


          the only reason you console fanboiz are bangin on about how good it looks is because HD gaming has finally been introduced on the TV so your now approacing the resolotions that pc's have been enjoying for years..

          in fact to all your fanboiz.. all i have to say to you is HALO !
          you knocked on about how good it was when it came over (improved too) to the pc it was crap... there was more gameplay and fun in duke nukem. conbat evolved ? combat is bollocks and not challanging more like......

          lastly i do know what im talking bout as i have a 42" HD plasma and have spent evenings playin with friends on a 360 but will be buying a ps3 when they come out.


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          It seems very hypocritical of you to be calling me a fanboy. Grow up.

          And if you knew anything about HD gaming you wouldn't have bought a plasma television. Nice try.

          Go and play PDZ, you'll be impressed. The textures through out the entire game are far superior to anything currently out on the PC.


          Most of you seem to be forgetting that the games for the 360 are LAUNCH titles and that the games will look better and better as the 360 ages. Not to mention half of these launch titles are ports from inferior consoles.

          Oh, and those raving about the PS3 need to have some common sense knocked into them. Sony hyped the living **** out of the PS2 and it looked like garbage. Not to mention Sony hasn't been known to show actual gameplay footage. You people are either really gullible, blind, or just plain stupid.

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          • alecs36
            Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 1242

            #50
            Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

            I actually might be moving to console gaming, after the last month and so i've been reading up on the 360 and learning more and more about the games. I went to best buy a total of 3 times to play the 360, i played pgr3 for about an hour and all i have to say is.. SWEET! It was actually very fun, and the graphics were stunning. I also played callofduty2 for the 360, wich ran very good aswell and was also fun. I'm probably going to get my 360 next month, (as i've alwase said if you have all seen me post here, march) and once i do i'm looking into getting PGR3 and Perfect dark zero. Both of wich look visually amazing. I don't really know about this Battlefield2 for the 360 yet. So far whenever it's come up about the game at the xbox.com forums all they've said was how bad the version was for the xbox, and all it'll be is improved graphics. I myself have never played the first MC (i have it for pc, along with special forces, why do i need that crap? lol) so i don't know how the gameplay is.

            That doesn't mean i upgraded my pc for no reason (ok maybe i should have bumped up the ram) but look, if i hadn't, i couldn't play great games like F.E.A.R., or even games like Quake Wars and UT 2007 when they release, wich arn't comming on the 360. You FANBOYS are killing yourselves either way. On one side you console fans won't be able to play the great PC games rolling around for 2006 such as Quake Wars, but on the other you pc fans won't be able to play great games on somthing like the 360 in 2006, such as Gears Of War. I get to have both pieces.

            I'll also never have to upgrade my 360. But, i can't be a hypocrite, i have to say if i'd bought a 7800, upgraded to 2 gigs of ram, i'd probably never have to upgrade my pc for awhile (or as long as the 360 is out) aswell.

            Either way, have fun gaming!

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            • WiredEvolution

              #51
              Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

              What are you guys smoking!? The xbox 360 version of BF2 looks stunning. Those screenshots are awful, granted -but check out the videos at IGN (link below) and check out those visuals!!



              This video in particular caught my attention. The shadows, lighting and weather combine really well. Also, the it appears the Chinese voices are "english" spoken, but with Chinese accents... which personally I prefer.

              What 360 does which PC's cant:
              There are some lovely effects in the 360 too; like new weather conditions (rain) and the explosions and smoke plumes really add an extra dimension to the game. There appears to be some pseudo HDR effects being used too which is nice.

              Sure, the resolution aint much... but at least with the 360 version it should all work out of the box; no crashes to desktops, no "Your connection to the server has been lost", no disabling multi-core CPUs and updating PukBuster etc etc.

              360: where it sucks
              As for the 360 "game"... well the single-player game has been murdered -it appears to be aimed at a much younger audience (fair enough -we are dealing with console demographics here). Not sure on the multiplayer side; but 16 and 24 player servers sounds horrible. I suppose that could work though if the maps reflect it; possibly smaller 2 squad (per side) maps could be fun... but certainly it wouldnt be the BF2 we hv all come to love and hate.



              Best of luck to the 360 version... bottom line is that it's gonna be a different game to what we have, so I can't imagine any1 leaving PC to play 360.

              Graphically speaking though... wow, I hope they bring some of those effects to the PC. Stuff like rain, wind, snow and sand storms would be quite cool.


              Peace.
              G

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              • WiredEvolution

                #52
                Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                Originally posted by BigFinger
                PGR is 720p thats 1280x720 and face it compared to 1600x1200 thats pants.
                Image quality is down to the TV. My cousin's 32" 720P whoops my DELL 2405FPW in terms of brightness, detail, vibrance and importantly: speed and framerate. Your choice to condem console gaming based on resolution alone shows ignorance.

                720P (1366x 768) is in fact a brilliant resolution. Until texture resolutions go up substantially we don't need 1920x1080. Do you own a 1920x1080 capable monitor? There is not much difference between 1600x1200 and 1920x1080, and a tricked-out 4xAA 1600x1200 dominates 1920x1080 with no-AA -in terms of frame-rate and image quality.

                Progessive scan 1366x 768 (720p) looks beautiful on a decent HDTV. 720P pwns a leet 1600x1200 LCD monitor. 720P pwns my hi-res DELL. And don't start comparing a $1500, 1080P SLI-setup to an xbox 360 either, because that doesn't work.

                Dollar for dollar the 360 and PS3 fight well against the PC in terms of visuals. Where they exceed is in terms of online delivery: something you don't address. Xbox LIVE makes online play very transparent and accessable. Sheesh kebab: some players in these forums can't even stay connected to a BF2 server for more than 5 minutes without being DC'd! Some people (like myself) have to disable our multi-core CPUs each time we play BF2! I don't recall Xbox users doing such things!

                Originally posted by BigFinger
                DOA4 is 1080i thats 1920x1080 once again thats **** compared to a pc resolution.
                You're not taking into to account that 1080i is Interlaced. 720P is widely accepted as offering higher IQ than 1080i. Drop your fanatasism with resolutions. Progressive scan owns Interlaced.

                Originally posted by BigFinger
                PDZ .. not played it. but it have much hope does it ? an fps with a console control ....
                PS3 will have a mouse and keyboard, fyi. I agree though... Microsoft's decision to deny 360 owners a mouse/kb setup is bizarre. I can see why they done it, but I think the alienate their console from a lot of PC users by doing so.

                Originally posted by BigFinger
                in fact to all your fanboiz.. all i have to say to you is HALO !
                and I can say: XBOX LIVE. can you say: "owned"?

                you knocked on about how good it was when it came over (improved too) to the pc it was crap... there was more gameplay and fun in duke nukem. conbat evolved ? combat is bollocks and not challanging more like......
                That's because it was brought to the PC by a bunch of nubes called Gearbox. They probably had zero support being as it's in Microsoft's interest to keep the xbox version the 'best'. Originally HALO was a pc game, and Bungie was bought out by MS to make Halo a launch game for Xbox.[/quote]
                Halo sucking on PC should have no reflection on console gaming. Halo sucking on PC is probably a deliberate manouveur by MS.

                Originally posted by BigFinger
                lastly i do know what im talking bout as i have a 42" HD plasma and have spent evenings playin with friends on a 360 but will be buying a ps3 when they come out.

                peace.
                G

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                • BigFinger

                  #53
                  Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                  Originally posted by downthesun
                  And if you knew anything about HD gaming you wouldn't have bought a plasma television. Nice try.
                  really ? explain why i shouldnt of then child.....



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                  • BigFinger

                    #54
                    Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                    Originally posted by WiredEvolution
                    Image quality is down to the TV. My cousin's 32" 720P whoops my DELL 2405FPW in terms of brightness, detail, vibrance and importantly: speed and framerate. Your choice to condem console gaming based on resolution alone shows ignorance.

                    720P (1366x 768) is in fact a brilliant resolution. Until texture resolutions go up substantially we don't need 1920x1080. Do you own a 1920x1080 capable monitor? There is not much difference between 1600x1200 and 1920x1080, and a tricked-out 4xAA 1600x1200 dominates 1920x1080 with no-AA -in terms of frame-rate and image quality.

                    Progessive scan 1366x 768 (720p) looks beautiful on a decent HDTV. 720P pwns a leet 1600x1200 LCD monitor. 720P pwns my hi-res DEL
                    I dont want to get into an argument about 720/1080 I/P but i would like to know where you got the 1366x768 resolution idea from are you confusing the native rez of some tvs to the HD signal coming in ?

                    Originally posted by WiredEvolution
                    And don't start comparing a $1500, 1080P SLI-setup to an xbox 360 either, because that doesn't work.
                    agreed coz the PC is clearly better


                    Originally posted by WiredEvolution
                    Dollar for dollar the 360 and PS3 fight well against the PC in terms of visuals. Where they exceed is in terms of online delivery: something you don't address. Xbox LIVE makes online play very transparent and accessable. Sheesh kebab: some players in these forums can't even stay connected to a BF2 server for more than 5 minutes without being DC'd! Some people (like myself) have to disable our multi-core CPUs each time we play BF2! I don't recall Xbox users doing such things!
                    A bold statement since the PS3 hassnt been launced yet... I dont belong to the group that cannot stay connected and as i use all Seeing Eye to connect to servers its very 'transparant' and easy to use.


                    Originally posted by WiredEvolution
                    You're not taking into to account that 1080i is Interlaced. 720P is widely accepted as offering higher IQ than 1080i. Drop your fanatasism with resolutions. Progressive scan owns Interlaced.
                    and yes i know the diff between I and P but was quoting the rez of the games. i was answering the statement that the textures were inferior which i find laughable due to the far higher resolutions of a decent PC..


                    Originally posted by WiredEvolution
                    PS3 will have a mouse and keyboard, fyi. I agree though... Microsoft's decision to deny 360 owners a mouse/kb setup is bizarre. I can see why they done it, but I think the alienate their console from a lot of PC users by doing so.
                    I cant understand why they have done it myself.. please explain your point of view. and 'FYI' i do know the PS3 will have one which is why i will be getting a ps3 not a 360 and i prefer the games on the PS series too.


                    Originally posted by WiredEvolution
                    and I can say: XBOX LIVE. can you say: "owned"?
                    no i cant as my connection is very stable and pretty quick (2.2 meg) i cant see how xbox live is better as you cant browse the net write emails etc etc.. the two are completely different.

                    Originally posted by WiredEvolution
                    That's because it was brought to the PC by a bunch of nubes called Gearbox. They probably had zero support being as it's in Microsoft's interest to keep the xbox version the 'best'. Originally HALO was a pc game, and Bungie was bought out by MS to make Halo a launch game for Xbox.Halo sucking on PC should have no reflection on console gaming. Halo sucking on PC is probably a deliberate manouveur by MS.
                    my point with halo was launched it was lorded as bieng the best shooter ever and even when ported to the pc (the true home of the fps just like the console is the true home of the fighting game) it was rubbish..i have played it on the xbox and it sucked on that too just like i belive all fps' will until they give you a mouse.



                    Originally posted by WiredEvolution
                    peace.
                    G
                    peace back atya :)


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                    • alecs36
                      Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 1242

                      #55
                      Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                      Originally posted by WiredEvolution

                      and I can say: XBOX LIVE. can you say: "owned"?

                      Err, what can Xbox live do that a pc can't? Xfire has your friends list, you can join their game, clans, you can already download patches and mods... xbox live is nothing really.


                      Of course it's nice if you've only been a console gamer and have just started to experience somthing like that...

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                      • downthesun

                        #56
                        Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                        BigFinger, you have proven nothing to us other than the fact that you're a close-minded PC fanboy. Please, for the love of God, just give it up.

                        my point with halo was launched it was lorded as bieng the best shooter ever and even when ported to the pc (the true home of the fps just like the console is the true home of the fighting game) it was rubbish..i have played it on the xbox and it sucked on that too just like i belive all fps' will until they give you a mouse.
                        It doesn't sound like you even sat down and played Halo for more than 20 minutes, if that. There are PLENTY of good FPS games out on consoles. I'm sorry you're not coordinated enough to use a gamepad in order to play any of them.

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                        • BigFinger

                          #57
                          Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                          Originally posted by downthesun
                          BigFinger, you have proven nothing to us other than the fact that you're a close-minded PC fanboy. Please, for the love of God, just give it up.

                          It doesn't sound like you even sat down and played Halo for more than 20 minutes, if that. There are PLENTY of good FPS games out on consoles. I'm sorry you're not coordinated enough to use a gamepad in order to play any of them.
                          played it and finished it on the pc and played it through bout 50% on the xbox and you still havnt answed my question about HD plasmas have you son...



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                          • downthesun

                            #58
                            Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                            High risk of burn in, can not display a true shade of black, lifespan is lacking.

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                            • BigFinger

                              #59
                              Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                              Originally posted by downthesun
                              High risk of burn in, can not display a true shade of black, lifespan is lacking.
                              i can see why you would think that but its not true of the modern plasmas...

                              I have a Panasonic TH-42PV500 (also just for the record what tv are you running your 360 on ? i am of course assuming you do have an HDTV and a 360)

                              all you have to do is run them in for 200 hrs to get em bedded in... and i have played halo for days and pgr for days on it with no burn in..

                              with a glass screen the blacks look as good and as inky as any crt or lcd in fact they look better and deeper that any other i plasma i have seen. and trust me on this i did my homework and viewed many plasmas,lcd's and rear proj b4 i got my panny...

                              as for screen life..both lcd's and plasmas have a service life of about 60,000 hrs after which a plasme is 1/2 as bright and an LCD's backlight is 1/2 as bright 60,000 hrs = 6.844 years viewing NON STOP... so your really looking at at least double that normal use.

                              as i say i umderstand why you may think they are not suitable due to the media hype... but i daresay you're using a plasma monitor atm... ever had burn in on that ? so seeing as you cant get an HD crt what do you suggest we should playing HDTV and nex gen consoles on ?




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                              • downthesun

                                #60
                                Re: New 360 pics, it ain't all that, your pc version will be better

                                I'm not using a plasma monitor, wouldn't even dare use one for PC gaming. As far as my HDTV goes, here's what I'm playing on.

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