Chopper ability

[Sloi sauce]

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I've played Jesse a few times now. In all honesty, it's 50/50: sometimes, I get the jump on his chopper while other times, he will send me crashing to the ground first. If we're engaged in an aerial dance, as I like to call it, it's always up for grabs unless one of us is being tormented by IGLA/jets/jeeps.

As for the acrobatics, he has me beat hands down: I can certainly do the spinning move, but nowhere near as well and close to the ground. I've modified the move to use it as a delay/re-positioning tactic during circle strafing runs. It's actually pretty neat to use in certain situations...

Anyway, my only criticisms regarding the way he plays are that he refuses to give anyone a chance to gun with him and he will usually just bomb the other helo before it can ever get off the ground. I understand the former, but the latter shows a certain fear of airborne competition.

That said, he's a fantastic pilot... one that I enjoy playing with/against when I find myself in the same server.

[« R²» HKS]

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I'm not talking about just flat level hovering. Try hoving with nose straight down, and tell me how easy this is. I don't see anyone else doing this is what I'm saying, and if you can do it I'm sure there are 1000's of peolple that would like to know what the secret is. Out of all the people that play this game I bet there is less than 1% than can do it. You can fly agianst him if you want DISSO but I will put my money on Trepid.

Look that isn't very hard to do with some practice. I can spin it on its nose so fast it will make you sick from whatever altitude. But doing that then switching to the gunners seat from 1 ft off the ground I don't think so. Having said that I have never tried switching to the gunners seat when I have spun it on its nose cause it does tend to hover so maybe its possible but you wouldn't hit anything 1ft off the ground for a start and as fast as it can spin I doubt you could hit anything with the mg either.

I certainly am not a very good single heli whore seat switcher, cause I'm not the best with the tv guideds because I have spent my time piloting not copiloting and usually when I have copiloted, the pilots have no idea where to aim for a good tv shot.

Using keyboard only is the trick to doing the radical fast nose spins, which is how I fly. Do you know what this guy uses to fly? Keyboard only, Key/Mouse, joystick?

[Sloi sauce]

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If I recall correctly, he mentioned using keyboard and mouse.

[pYura]

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Yea, having a bad gunner sux realy so I think I will have to practise on my own... hey how can you shoot TV missle? when you change seats the helikopter starts spinning mad and usually falls down :S

Using keyboard only is the trick to doing the radical fast nose spins, which is how I fly. Do you know what this guy uses to fly? Keyboard only, Key/Mouse, joystick?

using keyb. only is a very good way to understand the aerodinamics of the copper, mouse I've found a bit difficult, so I use joystick all the time now... (you need some time to get used to...)

[lostinspace]

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People complaining about solo flyers beeing skillless are funny...

First of all, it does take a lot of practise and skill to pull it all of correctly (including MG gunning)
If it did not take skill, nobody would opt for a pilot/gunner combination...

Secondly, they probably use a joystick, so are unable to fire and guide tv missiles...

Beeing kicked from servers for is is ok to me...
It tells me I did well...
Knowing that those admins are not really concerned about one player not beeing able to gun, but because they are getting owned like never before and cannot do anything about it (other then kicking)...

[USI_Krusher]

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Apparently I'm misunderstanding how one can "hover" in an attack chopper, with the nose "straight" down, "1 foot" off the ground, and still shoot the TV guided, or gun for that matter.

When entering an attack chopper on a helipad and jumping into the gunner's seat, the TV camera is pointed in such a way, that if you fired it, it would hit the ground directly in front of you. Now, if the chopper was "nose straight down" and "1 foot" off the ground, how can they shoot a TV misssile?

So, what I'm hearing is that the 2 missile pylons on either side of the attack chopper, which would be pointing "straight down" approximately 4-6 feet off the ground correct? And someone can fire the TV missile, it travels less than 4-6 feet, can turn that quickly to not hit the ground, and be then guided by someone?

This I have to see...

[[GU]LIZARD{GEN}]

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Nothing wrong with solo flying but jumping seat to seat is lame, and its something I do not do. I may do it on a server with clan mates messing about, but in a ranked server or something I just don't do it.

[imported_xRandoMx]

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The circle-rape (you're calling it spinning) is not that hard, the only hard part is the technique is different with each copter, and in each copter it is slighty different depending on the radius you want to achieve.

If you do it right, your rockets are are always hitting the same area of the flag as you circle, and your gunner can shoot any infantry there. Tv missile won't do anything for you because you'll be nose down.

Oh, and if you want to practice it, the Hind is the easiest, imho, with the cobra in 2nd. It is so easy with the hind because the center of gravity is so far forward on that copter anyways---that and its huge thrust.

[-iLL*NaYmL3sS]

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I guess that all these "Im so awesome I can fly by myself guys" forgot that they sucked at first. So for those of you who don't get a chance to fly or gun because someone is whoring the chopper flying alone and pulling off TV guided shots by switching seats, come by our clan server. I boot people all day long for flying AND gunning. One or the other, not both. We consider that a cheat. If EA wanted you to do both, there would be no second seat.

your a nazi admin. guys like you are the ones who boot players that are better than you. give me the ip to your server so i can go in there with one of my buddies so i can own you so bad till you boot us then i'll take a screenshot and report you to ea.

[signa]

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welcome to the forums, im sure you'll be banned soon.

[goaliemike]

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welcome to the forums, im sure you'll be banned soon.

lol, but on topic, this is a real old thread

[slip777]

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I'm not talking about just flat level hovering. Try hoving with nose straight down, and tell me how easy this is. I don't see anyone else doing this is what I'm saying, and if you can do it I'm sure there are 1000's of peolple that would like to know what the secret is. Out of all the people that play this game I bet there is less than 1% than can do it. You can fly agianst him if you want DISSO but I will put my money on Trepid.

I can do that, but not one foot off the ground, maybe 50 or 60 and then slowly level down to a few feet. But you MUST have some space to do that trick, anyone who can do it with just 1 foot of feet and manage to still be able to control the altitude of their chopper is most likely glitching, it's not possible with bf2 physics for a chopper to fly UP while the rotor is facing sideways. You need spinning momentum for the hovering with nose down trick, lots of it.