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  • redrider

    #1

    Fixed my game might fix yours

    This is long but worth the read! If you want answers but dont want to read (teenagers bah) skip to last paragraph. I believe this will help 6600 (and other) cards too.

    Like a lot of people I have a good system! It seems though that around the time that patch 1.12 came out I started loosing FPS. I had a vanilla 6600 and could run the game on all high settings with 2X AA and my FPS was usually around 40-50 sometimes higher almost never less with a ping around 110. So I started jacking the game settings down to get better FPS, The FPS still kept slowly dropping (seems I was loosing 5 or so per every 3 or 4 hours of game play). I finally decided I wasnt looking in the right place, the game wasnt causing the problem. About the same time the patch came out I up graded my Inter net connection I had a 125 mb up link and went to a 250 mb up link (only number that is important) DSL. I up graded my video driver about the same time went from 77.77 to 81.95. When the DX tweaker became available here I decided to try it. It helped for a little while (gained about 20 FPS) but the slide was still goin on. I finally bottomed out at 15 FPS sometimes 15.1 FPS, not playable, I believe 25 -35 Is for me the playable range and around 50 FPS where I aim for. I went to work on my computer and quit playing the game except to test my work. I first set everything to default, no help. I turned off over clocking, no help. I ran a virus scan and a spyware scan, no help. I tried using cool bits 2, no help. I tried video driver 81.98, no help. I tried reverting back to driver 77.77, no help. I went through the Tweak guides again at Tweakguides.com, no help. I uninstalled and reinstalled the game several times once with a Defrag, once with an install on top of windows XP (where you reinstall windows on top of old version to fix problems), no help. Windows install on top of with defrag (the last 2 with game deleted and then reinstalled), no help. I tried turning off all unnecessary programs with smart close, no help. I used driver cleaner pro, no help. Then I decided to test my sons computer on same server that I was on, we are on same hub same connection. This would eliminate ISP as problem, no help (he was getting about 44 FPS I had 15). I decided at this point to spend some money maybe something was going bad or had gone bad. I went to the most obvious (sp) part the Power supply and upgraded from 380 watts to 480 watts, no help. I added a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS to take work load away from the CPU (was using on board sound), no help. I decided to upgrade my video card (went from a 6600 to a 7800 GT OC), no help. At this point I was stumped. Then after reading posts on several different Forums, Nvidia, EA, Guru3d, several BF2 Forums, I decided the problem was wide spread, what did we all have in common? BF2, new Nvidia drivers, patch 1.12, Windows XP. Windows has very little to do with the video except to run the drivers and BF2 used to work great. So I decided to once again jack all the settings in BF2 down to lowest settings, No Help. All that seemed to be left is the Video driver.

    Heres what brought my Fps back to 30, and I not finished trying adjustments. I found some settings in the new drivers that you can only see with cool bits 2. Once these are turned on you have to manually turn them off or they seem to stay on, even when an older driver is installed. These can be found under Performance and Quality settings - (changing other settings might help too) Advanced Tab. What you will have to do is turn these off one at a time and see if they will help your FPS, it helped mine. It seems like the new drivers do something to the cards Bios (ie. a permant change) and you have to go in and manualy turn the settings off. The best part is I couldent tell any difference in quality except my FPS went up. Hope this helps you too. . . . . . Red
  • redrider

    #2
    Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

    bump ok bump

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    • redearedslider

      #3
      Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

      I don't know why i'm not gonna read this... because i have an ati card, or i just dont feel like reading so much....

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      • redrider

        #4
        Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

        I went to a lot of work and expense on my own. If you read the post you can see I did almost everything. Im sure I probably missed something. What was It, you tell me? Im open to suggestions. Even though my game isnt working like it should it is playable. I should have frame rates around 100 anyway, but do not. I have been averageing about 30 FPS (with a 60 ping) even after I "fixed" it. A lot of us are having problems and cant play at all. Do you have any suggestions? Here are my updated specs:

        Asus P5DG2 premium mother board
        Antec 480 watt power supply
        Pentium 4 3.2 gig with 2 meg L2
        Nvidia 7800 gt oc with 256 meg
        Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
        3 gig kingston PC4200 DDR 2 Ram
        Western digital 120 gig sata Hard Drive with 86% free space
        All settings at medium in game
        All computer settings OC and Video at default
        2048 page file
        15 programs running while game is running (I used smart close)
        256 mb uplink speed DSL from Bell South

        See what the problem is? Me neither. I added the PS, sound card, and video card this week another 600+ dollars. Maybe the next patch will be better ( I know its EA, but a fellow has to look foward to something). If my post doesnt help fix your computer at least you might get some hints on what to try next. Did I miss anything? Im open to suggestions. . . . .Red

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        • NoSoup4You

          #5
          Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

          Your system is not capable of 100fps, I am willing to bet money on that.

          In all honesty, your biggest problem is the Intel processor. AMDs do so much better with games, etc. that I will never go back to Intel.

          I would disable the page file if I were you, this will help somewhat. Also your PSU is kinda low to be honest.

          Try re-installing drivers, and clearing the cache out to have it reoptimize the shaders.

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          • WarCries

            #6
            Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

            could i know which of the advance settings u changed? theres quite a lot under the advance tab. kinda confused. i've also been gettin erratic ping since 1.12. tried so many tings already and nothin seems to help.
            also as im not quite an expert on this technical stuff. how do u check fps?

            ps. im using 7772 driver. should i upgrade my driver? i have tried the latest and many other drivers but none seem to help so i just went back to this one which worked perfectly before 1.12.

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            • catskill

              #7
              Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

              your specs are insane. after spending all that money on hardware if it were me i would say a fresh install of everthing. reformat and start from scratch. you shouldnt even need to do a bunch of tweaks, just use the brute force approach of massive power.

              or am i missing the fact that 30FPS is good enough? i dont even know what my game runs at, its either smooth or not. movies have a frame rate about 30 you cant ask for smoother than that in gameplay...

              i have heard there may be limiters that cap the fps at 30 or so... for whatever reason... but then your average of 30 would mean its maxed out at 30 virtually all the time?

              blah. my game crashes everytime a new map loads so what do i know about anything.....

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              • ConscriptVirus
                Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 6369

                #8
                Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

                actaully, theres a diff between 60 and 30..it just feels smoother and all..but ur setup should be able to play bf2 nicely. My best guess is drivers

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                • Revoluti0n
                  Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 3032

                  #9
                  Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

                  Originally posted by redearedslider
                  I don't know why i'm not gonna read this... because i have an ati card, or i just dont feel like reading so much....
                  So then spam the guy's post with this rubbish instead? Class act mate.

                  Coolbits is an awesome prog. I only recently started attempting to use it on my 6600GT. I'll hope for the best. Thanks for the effort and time writing that.

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                  • redrider

                    #10
                    Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

                    Thanks guys for taking the time to read my thread, guys! I am still trying to get better FPS. I was thinking that posting a work in progress might help someone else. One thing is for sure, I have a good job so I have a little extra money, throwing money at the problem didnt fix it, ie. 7800 card . I also agree that I should be getting a higher FPS, I used to. Running at 100 FPS would be nice but Id be happy to see a pretty steady 30 FPS.

                    I decided, last night to go and make a direct connection to my box where the DSL line comes into my house with a new cable, to ensure that it was new, good and had the least amount of connections, to reduce any possible signal loss. Its winter here, froze my buns off, but couldnt tell I made any difference.

                    I found (guess everyone else knew about this already) a web site with some tips I havent tried yet. Its at "BF2lag.box.com". I will try this when I get home tonight. I will post an update after that. I am also considering getting a new sata hard drive and only putting XP and BF2 on it, Then replaceing the one thats currently in there, to see how that works. I did this once before, on my old PC, to kill a nasty virus. It worked great because viruses can only infect your Hard Drive, not the rest of your system. Not yet anyway. Wish me luck. . . . . . .Red

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                    • Talus
                      Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6854

                      #11
                      Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

                      Originally posted by Revoluti0n
                      So then spam the guy's post with this rubbish instead? Class act mate.

                      Coolbits is an awesome prog. I only recently started attempting to use it on my 6600GT. I'll hope for the best. Thanks for the effort and time writing that.
                      Read some of his other posts...they are pretty similar.

                      Useless...

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                      • IndianScout

                        #12
                        Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

                        if you went from a 6600 vanilla to a 7800GT and didnt notice any difference it's time to format and start over, and check your other system settings..

                        cause something is def borked..

                        in game with heavy fighting going on I see 45-80 fps on a 6800 Ultra card

                        so if you got really low settings with the 7800GT your either bottlenecked really bad, or your system settings need to be adjusted..



                        with a little tweaking and system settings I would think you would get very nice FPS with that 7800GT..

                        good luck..

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                        • Talus
                          Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 6854

                          #13
                          Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

                          Originally posted by IndianScout
                          if you went from a 6600 vanilla to a 7800GT and didnt notice any difference it's time to format and start over, and check your other system settings..

                          cause something is def borked..

                          in game with heavy fighting going on I see 45-80 fps on a 6800 Ultra card

                          so if you got really low settings with the 7800GT your either bottlenecked really bad, or your system settings need to be adjusted..



                          with a little tweaking and system settings I would think you would get very nice FPS with that 7800GT..

                          good luck..

                          Umm..higher FPS while flying is normal.

                          Why don't you post a SS of heavy fighting...

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                          • IndianScout

                            #14
                            Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

                            I would, but all the current SS I have are from the 1.2 patch test, and by NDA I cant post them...

                            I will take some after testing is completed..


                            :cry: :wall:

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                            • Talus
                              Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 6854

                              #15
                              Re: Fixed my game might fix yours

                              You mean NDA...right?

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