The next patch is improving the G3?

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  • vbl

    #46
    Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

    Originally posted by HicRic
    Sure, I can understand the tweaking of sniper rifles and possibly support guns (although I fear they will become too powerful if made much more accurate) but improving the G3?? YAY!

    Im my ever-so-humble opinion, the G3 (the first assault unlock gun) is already awesome. Accurate and high-powered, I love it! You don't need more than 20 bullets because it only takes a small handful to put anyone down. I like having my 'nades back too-the noobtube isn't for me.

    But now I hear my beloved G3 is getting a buff in the next patch? Wow. Just wow. It'll be unstoppable.

    Anyone else looking forward to G3-based rampages post-patch?
    G3 sucks. It's not accurate at all, and power is pointless if you rarely hit. DICE agrees with me. Your 18% AR accuracy and 1:1 K/D ratio also agree with me.

    If I were you, I wouldn't be looking a gift horse in the mouth :)

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    • BurnTheWeed

      #47
      Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

      Originally posted by Eddy01741
      WHen going full auto, it's not that bad (i'm comparing against the AK-47), but for single shot, it kinda lacks.
      Really? Interesting, I feel the opposite. The deviation it has on auto kind makes it bad for sustained fire, but in single shot mode it has great damage (3-4 shots to kill) and high accuracy. I only use the G3 on full auto when I'm in a close combat situation anything at medium to long range and the single shot seems to work the best.

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      • Eddy01741

        #48
        Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

        Originally posted by BurnTheWeed
        Really? Interesting, I feel the opposite. The deviation it has on auto kind makes it bad for sustained fire, but in single shot mode it has great damage (3-4 shots to kill) and high accuracy. I only use the G3 on full auto when I'm in a close combat situation anything at medium to long range and the single shot seems to work the best.
        Well, i feel kinda the same, but the stats say different, since th stats say it has low recoil. Oh well, stats don't determine the gun ENTIRELY.

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        • Paas

          #49
          Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

          The G3 is just not correctly implemented if you look at the other weapons in game. The G3a3 would have more felt recoil than the M16/Ak-101, and felt recoil on par with the Ak-47. Although, the G3 (even with extra recoil "FELT") does not deviate more than a lighter weapon (G36C) per shot. It's much easier to maintain sight picture and balance with a heavier weapon, it's just harder to obtain the "Initial" balance/sighting. Truth be told the G3 is just as accurate as the SVD and with proper optics can also shoot 2moa groups at 500-600m easily.

          I think EA finally realised that it's odd to have a 7.62x51 rifle that's less accurate at range than a 5.56 rifle. People tend to hop on these forums and make the claim, "The G3 is great for CQB". The G3 shouldn't be considered a CQB weapon, it's not designed for that. You don't chamber a weapon to a round that's capable of 1000m shots and claim "CQB". The 6.5Grendel, or 6.8 SPC is much better suited for this role.

          Anyways. I'm personally glad that EA is taking some action in this regard. Personally have access to a family owned G3a3 and seeing it butchered for so long in this game was just annoying. I was forced to use the M16/Ak-101 (Which I don't understand WHY it does more damage than the M16 and they fire the EXACT same round from a similar size barrel)/AK-47, and it was getting very annoying knowing that using the G3 at any type of range would result in me losing to a friggin' carbine.

          I hope the Dice/EA takes a bit more initiative and increases the recoil on ALL carbines. The Deviation on an M4 should be at least 25% more than an M16. The same goes for the G36C vs. G3. The chinese are currently the ONLY unit that have a correct weapon balance the simulates the weapons even slightly.

          {WP}Paas

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          • Jaxx

            #50
            Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

            What they need to do is give it a scope the sights suck. Not as bad as the medic unlock but still poor.

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            • iflabs

              #51
              Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

              Well, the G3 is pretty darn good against clustered groups. The insane deviation/recoil from going full auto will surely hit someone. I managed to drop two guys at once at midrange by utilizing its whacky deviation/recoil. LOL.

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              • imported_bigpappa
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 2159

                #52
                Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                there is no actual proof of anything until the patch is released.

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                • x.Dead_Eye_42.x

                  #53
                  Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                  from what i have heard (im not promising anything), the auto fire is going to be very similar to right now, but prone single shots have been greatly tweaked to make it a bit more real, while not making it an m16 with 40 damage per shot.

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                  • Hu.Z_of_PLA

                    #54
                    Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                    Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
                    G3 sucks. It's not accurate at all, and power is pointless if you rarely hit. DICE agrees with me. Your 18% AR accuracy and 1:1 K/D ratio also agree with me.

                    If I were you, I wouldn't be looking a gift horse in the mouth :)
                    stats isn't the only way to measure a person's skill, and doesn't correlate with the gun's stats at all. You failed to account in the human factor in to your argument and as a result, it's completely invalid.

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                    • Alcorr

                      #55
                      Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                      G36E isn't that good, it may be the most accurate AR, but it's G36C brotha is WAY more accurate. ANyways, Support is already good, try using the MG36, i got a 80 point round (plus a gold medal) by just using the MG36 on 32p karkand, never even stepped in anything but a transport vehicle. The key to playing support an dgeting points is, spam ammo bags wherever u see playerz, and always go prone when u shoot, or else ur , also, don't be afraid of bunnyhoppers, bunnyhoppers all die to the sheer amount of bullets LMGs deal out.
                      No, G36E is more accurate at longer range. It really is, Ive used both a ton, and the C is better at CQC but overall il take the E any day....

                      And the G3 needs help, its incredibly inacccurate, despite what the description says. Powerful sure, but its main drawback is 20 shot mag instead of 30 like most other guns....

                      Doesn't fire very fast either....

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                      • vbl

                        #56
                        Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                        Originally posted by Hu.Z_of_PLA
                        stats isn't the only way to measure a person's skill, and doesn't correlate with the gun's stats at all. You failed to account in the human factor in to your argument and as a result, it's completely invalid.
                        And your belief that you can magically turn a crappy gun into a good gun with a special technique is little more than unsubstantiated voodoo.

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                        • ghaib

                          #57
                          Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                          YOU N00BS!

                          G3 is the most powerful and accurate assault rifle in the game, period. It has higher damage and lower recoil than any other gun in the game as well, it's only u n00bs that dunno how to use it.

                          Ur not supposed to unload on a guy, just 2-3 single shots and he's out...

                          I've got over 1.000 kills with the G3, I know what I'm talking about.

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                          • zacman13245

                            #58
                            Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                            Originally posted by ghaib
                            the M95 is WAAAAAAAY underpowered, in RL, the shoot planes down with it FFS!
                            huh? are you crack?

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                            • $hArp$h0t

                              #59
                              Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                              I really hope EA does not give the G3 more ammo or make it stronger, the gun fires 7.62 x 51 mm NATO shells at 600 round/min making it the most powerful assault rifle in the game. Some may think that the gun does not have enough ammo but if you use semi-auto and conserve your ammo, you'll realize that you don't need extra ammo. No update needed for this gun. If anything, update the Pancor Corporation Jackhammer...that thing is total crap.

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                              • Paas

                                #60
                                Re: The next patch is improving the G3?

                                Originally posted by ghaib
                                YOU N00BS!

                                G3 is the most powerful and accurate assault rifle in the game, period. It has higher damage and lower recoil than any other gun in the game as well, it's only u n00bs that dunno how to use it.

                                Ur not supposed to unload on a guy, just 2-3 single shots and he's out...

                                I've got over 1.000 kills with the G3, I know what I'm talking about.
                                The figured coded into the game says otherwise.

                                The G3 has the worst base accuracy, and the highest deviation. Yet, it's advertised in game as being as accurate as the M16 with damage of the SVD. Doesn't happen. The G3 is less accurate than every Carbine/Assault class Rifles. It also deviates more per shot, so it's near impossible to use effectively on fully automatic (Which is true to life).

                                I turns out you're just wrong my friend. No matter how much "Leet Speak" you use, or how much you call people noob, it won't change the fact that you're wrong.

                                If you need clarification. There is a simple thread on this forum that explains the forumla chart for the weapons. Search for it, it should come up. I'm not going to bother to look for you, but it does exist. It should come up fairly quick.

                                {WP}Paas

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